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hiperhiper
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Best medication to abort mushroom trip
#22236540 - 09/14/15 01:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey guys, I have anxiety and I have also slow metabolism (I take 12 hours to process medication that is processed in 6 hours), I have tripped before. So I need some help in case I get stuck in the trip. What would the best medication to abort the trip? I have 1mg lorazepam pills and 50mg seroquel at home (I was using for insomnia). Seroquel is way stronger for me compared to lorazepam, but it takes 1 hour to get effect, but it stays the whole day in my body, so I guess it would be safe in case I want to abort and not come back to the trip. I know that shrooms work 6 hours in people's body but I think there is a chance to stay 12 hours in my body because of metabolism (I have no idea). On the other hand lorazepam works pretty fast but it doesn't stay in body for that long, I think I can only feel the effect for 3 or 4 hours.
Any thoughts? What do people take when they go the emergency when panicking on shrooms?
I've heard about sugar helps too, but there are also myths regarding this and vitamins that will actually stop the effect, I don't get calm with any vitamin except for magnesium bisglycinate.
Thanks, Hiperhiper
Edited by hiperhiper (09/14/15 01:18 PM)
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Re: Best medication to abort mushroom trip [Re: hiperhiper]
#22236985 - 09/14/15 02:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Most important thing is not to panic on shrooms, even if you panic. It can all be over in 5 minutes. Concentrate on you breath, give in to the phenomenon, do not resist, the trip will reward you.
Only if you keep feeling very bad for very long should you want to abort the trip. Usually, by that time the trip is almost over I don't know about your metabolism, and I can only tell you what I would prefer: the benzo. If it works fast, then that is what I would want. I would not worry about it lasting "only" 3 hours. By that time the peak is over and done.
I always keep some kind of benzo in my pocket when I trip. It makes me feel safe. I have never actually had to use it against panic, only for sleep when the trip has been over for hours.
And carbohydrate food always brings the trip down for me. I eat, and within 30 minutes the trip is only half as strong.
Safe tripping! Love, Hanz.
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Re: Best medication to abort mushroom trip [Re: Hanz]
#22236997 - 09/14/15 02:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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how much? 2mg?
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Re: Best medication to abort mushroom trip [Re: hiperhiper]
#22237027 - 09/14/15 02:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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hiperhiper said: how much? 2mg?
You mean the benzo, right? Well that all depends on the kind of benzo. Some are strong, some are weaker. I have no experience with lorazepam.
Can't you somehow translate benzo strengths? Like 20mg oxazepam ~= 10mg diazepam ~= 1mg xanax etc. (not sure if these numbers are correct, just an example.)
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Re: Best medication to abort mushroom trip [Re: Hanz]
#22237087 - 09/14/15 03:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes, I meant benzo
As requested : 1MG lorazepam = 5MG diazepam (valium)
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Re: Best medication to abort mushroom trip [Re: hiperhiper]
#22237222 - 09/14/15 03:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ok, if that is true, then I would feel safe taking 2mg lorazepam, but ONLY if I really had to, only if there was some kind of prolonged anxiety, not just a little tough time during the come up or peak.
Remember, it probably will suppress the trip, you may just be sorry you did that, best thing is to ride it out as good as you can.
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Re: Best medication to abort mushroom trip [Re: Hanz]
#22237225 - 09/14/15 03:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Best medication to abort mushroom trip [Re: Blazer420]
#22238261 - 09/14/15 07:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I wouldn't take mushrooms if I need an emergency plan to not be on mushrooms
-------------------- But if you're in a hurry, and really got to go If you're in a hurry, might have to find out slow That it's one thing to try and another to fly You get there quicker just a step at a time It's one thing to bark, another to bite The show ain't over till you pack up at night
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Re: Best medication to abort mushroom trip [Re: Blazer420]
#22238287 - 09/14/15 07:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I would use klonopin if I needed to abort mission but that doesn't happen. Pretty much any benzo will do, you just take whatever you would consider a normal dose, I use k-pin to sleep after tripping just because that's what I have easily available.
If shit gets heavy, all you really need to do is lie down, breathe regularly and meditate, don't fight whatever it is you're seeing just remain impartial and unmoved, try not to get emotionally invested in the bad thoughts or imagery and they will morph into something wonderful eventually.
Scenes of death and self criticism are usually an invitation to the death and re-birth cycle, if you allow the mushrooms to have their way and slay your ego and show you your own death, you will come out the other end purified and feeling amazingly refreshed and reborn. If you fight struggle you'll have needless anxiety, what people call a bad trip, and if you take a benzo to avoid it altogether then you'll just miss out on one of the profoundest aspects of the psilocybin experience.
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Re: Best medication to abort mushroom trip [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
#22240226 - 09/15/15 08:36 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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P.Zappatecorum said: If you fight struggle you'll have needless anxiety, what people call a bad trip, and if you take a benzo to avoid it altogether then you'll just miss out on one of the profoundest aspects of the psilocybin experience. 
This.
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Re: Best medication to abort mushroom trip [Re: filthyknees]
#22240318 - 09/15/15 09:01 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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filthyknees said: I wouldn't take mushrooms if I need an emergency plan to not be on mushrooms

Yup..... .... ride the fucking steel breeze dude
.....don't disrespect the shroom by jamming it up with a bunch of pharma!
......go far or just forget it....
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Re: Best medication to abort mushroom trip [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
#22240708 - 09/15/15 10:40 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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P.Zappatecorum said: If shit gets heavy, all you really need to do is lie down, breathe regularly and meditate, don't fight whatever it is you're seeing just remain impartial and unmoved, try not to get emotionally invested in the bad thoughts or imagery and they will morph into something wonderful eventually.
Scenes of death and self criticism are usually an invitation to the death and re-birth cycle, if you allow the mushrooms to have their way and slay your ego and show you your own death, you will come out the other end purified and feeling amazingly refreshed and reborn. If you fight struggle you'll have needless anxiety, what people call a bad trip, and if you take a benzo to avoid it altogether then you'll just miss out on one of the profoundest aspects of the psilocybin experience. 
Well said
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Re: Best medication to abort mushroom trip [Re: jcop]
#22240988 - 09/15/15 11:42 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Best medication to abort mushroom trip [Re: Achillita]
#22243610 - 09/15/15 09:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm kinda late in the game on this one, and I'm sure it's been said already but here goes: 2mg alprazolam(xanax) or 10-30mg of Diazepam(valium) dissolved in mouth and swallowed with plenty of cold water! A place to escape where you are completely comfortable also helps greatly.
When I was younger, If I had plans to take a massive dose of shrooms or lsd, I'd always write myself a letter before I tripped. In this letter I'd explain to myself what I'd taken, what time I took it, what time it should end roughly and that this was only a temporary state of mind and it would all be over soon. That notes paid of more times than I can count.
That said, I'm almost one of the freaks who enjoys a slightly bad trip to a point even as long as it's stimulating to the senses and not a total stressful mind game kinda trip... Lately though, I've got so as to where I like relaxing chill "no shattered reality" LSD and Shroom trips... DMT I'm still learning, and I've got a feeling theres A LOT LEFT TO LEARN!
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Re: Best medication to abort mushroom trip [Re: GeoDMT]
#22243697 - 09/15/15 10:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Take 2 mg of Xanax and you'll be fine
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