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Opiate appreciation thread?
#22235942 - 09/14/15 10:28 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Can we just take a minute to appreciate the amazingness that are opiates/opioids?
Off a 30mg Roxi. Havent done any in a month, i feel so amazing.
Too bad they are addictive.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: xbloodwhipx]
#22235951 - 09/14/15 10:31 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: xbloodwhipx]
#22235952 - 09/14/15 10:31 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I enjoy a nice cup of Oxycodone solution from time to time
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: Janky Tits]
#22235959 - 09/14/15 10:34 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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they sure come in handy if you throw your back out or other semi serious to serious pain.
never got into doing them excessively, always have wanted a little to go a long way when they needed to.
the actual plant and flower is pretty
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: Janky Tits]
#22235960 - 09/14/15 10:34 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Shroomopotamus said: n0
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Janky Tits said: I enjoy a nice cup of Oxycodone solution from time to time 
A cup of poppy pod tea is awesome too :nod:
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: xbloodwhipx] 2
#22235967 - 09/14/15 10:35 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dear opiates,
I hate you. You ruin everything. I thought we had something special and now you only ever bring me pain. I never thought id be able to live without you but now that youre gone i couldnt be happier. i wish id never met you.
Regrettably yours, Holo
P.s.
I miss you
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: Apostle]
#22236298 - 09/14/15 11:56 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah yeah. they're fucking amazing feeling, but also very addictive and will fuck ones life up /endthread
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: berdinwall] 5
#22236377 - 09/14/15 12:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Opiates are like my favorite ex gf
Kratom is like the whore i fuck while im thinking of her.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: Apostle]
#22236406 - 09/14/15 12:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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heroins kind of dangerous for overdosing at least 30s and suchhave to regulated potency I do like Pharms tho
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they're definately my favorite drugs. roxi with some xanax on top? thats a fucking grand slam drug combo
havnt used in over a year now though, i cant trust myself with that shit. i tend to make extremely poor choices, like selling 30Oz of silver for 20$ a pop to a shitty golf4cash place
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: Adolin]
#22236753 - 09/14/15 01:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't see opiates as a recreational drug.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: Apostle]
#22236809 - 09/14/15 02:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Apostle said: Opiates are like my favorite ex gf
Kratom is like the whore i fuck while im thinking of her.
god damn truth right there.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: danielx]
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: xbloodwhipx]
#22236842 - 09/14/15 02:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Fuck opiates yah? This place would have a good few awesome members around still if it wasn't for them
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: Apostle]
#22236846 - 09/14/15 02:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Apostle said: Opiates are like my favorite ex gf
Kratom is like the whore i fuck while im thinking of her.
So true
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: twighead] 1
#22236880 - 09/14/15 02:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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twighead said: Fuck opiates yah? This place would have a good few awesome members around still if it wasn't for them 
They made their choice. That's the beautiful part about life. Let their deaths and the mystery you see surrounding opiate addiction be your motivation for not using yourself. But try not to hold it against people who do. We are all human. Judge not lest he be judged.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: danielx]
#22237018 - 09/14/15 02:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I suppose the problem is less opiates themselves... and more the drug war that put them in a position to receive heroin that was a lot stronger than they expected 
Still hate seeing friends delve into junkiedom though, and though I agree with you - it's hard not to hate the substance that held their hand along the way.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: twighead]
#22237279 - 09/14/15 03:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Funny this thread came up today as I just caught word of some 40mg opanas in town. Compulsively bought 2 which means I shouldn't be buying more opiates for another 2 months or so 
I'm not worried about addiction, my problem is more that I will consistently use them over a long period of time. Even with months in between binges it's a wallet killer.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: xbloodwhipx]
#22237319 - 09/14/15 03:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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P..P.P.P.. POPPY SEED TEA YO!!! That's shits the bomb if you're bored and want a quick $5 euphoric high that lasts a few hours.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: sudly]
#22237332 - 09/14/15 03:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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sudly said: P..P.P.P.. POPPY SEED TEA YO!!! That's shits the bomb if you're bored and want a quick $5 euphoric high that lasts a few hours.
So is weed
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Weed is more $$ and isn't easy for everyone to get. Poppy seeds are cheap, available and legal at any grocery store.
Plus weed isn't an opiate
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: sudly]
#22237360 - 09/14/15 04:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I got two caps of fire h on the way. Usually only takes a half
The only way ill reGret this relapse is if it doesnt kill me.
Yolooooo
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: Apostle]
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: Apostle]
#22237383 - 09/14/15 04:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: sudly]
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: sudly]
#22237397 - 09/14/15 04:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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There's very few places that actually sell good seeds though. I've tried 5+ brands in my city, none of them yielded much of a high, but there was a very slight opiate buzz... From using 1 and a half pounds though you'd expect more.
I don't fuck with Kratom much but I've got some stashed away that will probably help me taper off the coming oxymorph month
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: ModestMouse]
#22237415 - 09/14/15 04:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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This brand works well. It's highly dependent on how you make your tea, if you don't make it right it won't be very potent.
4-500g seeds 2 lemons of juice 1 cup of warm water
Mix and stir consistently for 30 mins Strain and mix with cordial and some ice to drink. Enjoy!
The biggest thing I learnt is that the seed retain a LOT of moisture, this is why you need to squeeze the shit out of them to get the good juice out. Use your hands to squeeze them through a siv, I've seen enough people mess up this stage because they didn't squeeze water enough out.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: sudly]
#22237427 - 09/14/15 04:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've always wanted to try poppy tea... but that sounds like a major pain in the ass.
I think I'd almost rather just eat the bag of seeds.
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It's almost easier than wiping your ass.
Get seeds. Put in jar. Squeeze lemon into cup of water. Mix and wait 30 mins. Squeeze and drink.
Eating 400g of poppy seeds would be a hell of a mission to complete.
If you're worried about the taste, it's pretty bearable. Like bitter, watery apple juice.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: sudly]
#22237481 - 09/14/15 04:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah eating that many seeds is fucked.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: ModestMouse]
#22237554 - 09/14/15 04:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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My boy left with his rig to pick em up. Id have preffered he come back first.
Hes gonna o.d. in the bathroom and im gonna be shit outta luck.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: Apostle] 1
#22237676 - 09/14/15 05:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Opiates really appeal to me because I like to feel good while acting retarded




But I'm sure you guys are going to be the ones who will make it work. You'll have the good sense to stop using a drug that reprograms the parts of your brain that motivate you at just the right time I'm sure of it.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: xbloodwhipx]
#22237684 - 09/14/15 05:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Opiates killed nine of my friends, the most recent one being two weeks ago, I know dumbass people and those opiates are shit
Edit: my friends killed themselves using opiates** Drugs are still shit
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Should have given them shrooms, they wouldn't OD (unless they ate 2kg dry/20kg wet)
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It takes a certain kind of person to be able to use opiates and then just put them down before getting too deep. But with anything, it's very possible, especially if you have never abused them in the past.
I was addicted to Percocet (shows how far I got into addiction lol) for a period of like 3 weeks. Then I realized I had a problem with them, tapered off, and have been able to use responsibly and occasionally ever since. Not trying to brag but to those that assume recreational opiate use always leads to addiction, that's simply untrue.
A big part of staying away from addiction is telling your dealer to not sell to you for a certain period of time (sounds stupid but works wonders if your dealer is a good person), and not touching the needle. Couple that with a content life outlook and good friends/family and you shouldn't have a problem you can't fix quickly or see coming.
With great drugs comes great planning.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: ModestMouse]
#22238074 - 09/14/15 06:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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take tagament for poppy seed tea, works wonders. Also like someone else said 2 squirts of lemon juice. You may want to drink 2 cups of grapefruit juice and take some tums but i guess thats more optional.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: ModestMouse]
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ModestMouse said: It takes a certain kind of person to be able to use opiates and then just put them down before getting too deep. But with anything, it's very possible, especially if you have never abused them in the past.
I was addicted to Percocet (shows how far I got into addiction lol) for a period of like 3 weeks. Then I realized I had a problem with them, tapered off, and have been able to use responsibly and occasionally ever since. Not trying to brag but to those that assume recreational opiate use always leads to addiction, that's simply untrue.
A big part of staying away from addiction is telling your dealer to not sell to you for a certain period of time (sounds stupid but works wonders if your dealer is a good person), and not touching the needle. Couple that with a content life outlook and good friends/family and you shouldn't have a problem you can't fix quickly or see coming.
With great drugs comes great planning.
Im really good at moderating myself... Because my supply is so limited. On one hand, It sucks to not be able to score whenever you want, while on the other hand its the best thing ever because moderation becomes a helluva lot easier
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: xbloodwhipx]
#22238097 - 09/14/15 06:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's sort of my situation, my dealer is basically just a middleman and he only has stuff sporadically because he follows the guidelines I mentioned above. If he ever re-ups too quickly I tell him kindly that I would like him to not sell any to me until x date, no matter how much I beg. So we all look out for each other and stay out of hot water.
It's common sense really. If you have an addictive personality though you will almost certainly fight a losing battle with the poppies.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: xbloodwhipx]
#22238102 - 09/14/15 06:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Lemme guess, you guys are in your late teens and early twenties?
Maybe you will never encounter an easily accessible supply of opiates, maybe you will, but if that is the thing that is keeping you from being an addict trust me you are a prime candidate for addiction, and have a problem with it already on some level.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: xbloodwhipx]
#22238104 - 09/14/15 06:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Deadly, addictive, awful, relation ship destroying,
Some words to describe them.
Opiates are shit.
Wait until you're addicted, stuck, with no one left to help you and your closest friends have died off due to overdose and you may reconsider your love for opiates.
Or maybe you'll die first and won't have to start hating them yourself.
Good luck! Sorry to be harsh, but this is the reality.
I know many good people who use them often and try to use them as safely as possible, but people on opiates become wreckless, mix one or two wrong drugs and bye bye. Street heroin is notorious for now for being laced with fentanyl. The list of problems with opiate is neverending.
Plus it is impossible to "occasionally use" opiates. You're lying to yourself. Maybe you're only 1,2,3 years in. Just wait. You'll be using everyday and then telling yourself it's still "ok"
I have not seen one single person I've known (who isn't dead) actually mantain an opiate habit and use occasionally. It just doesn't happen
I also understand some people are in extreme pain and need them to live atleast a partially decent life, but the truth is majority users are just straight up drug addicts.
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Listen, I know you were addicted to heroin and you're looking out for us, which I appreciate. Recognize that not everyone handles drugs the same way.
I've always been a fool me twice, shame on me sort of guy and have been able to avoid making the same mistake twice with drugs. I was hooked on benzos for a few months, tapered and now use occasionally and responsibly. Same with opiates. Same with cigarettes (less than 5 a month usually).
I'm not using this shit to escape anything, and the second I DO, I recognize it and stop for atleast a month or more.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: ModestMouse] 5
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Good for you, so what? When it comes to opiates you're either a freak of nature, or a fool for appreciating it.
If you're actually under the impression that through sheer willpower you can avoid the negative consequences you're wrong. If by some stroke of luck you're somehow incapable of being addicted, which I seriously doubt, I would try to hold back from talking up opiates because it's going to give alot of people the wrong impression.
Just saying, appreciating them considering what they've done to so many people is either selfish, or incredibly naive.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: xbloodwhipx]
#22238153 - 09/14/15 07:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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xbloodwhipx said: Can we just take a minute to appreciate the amazingness that are opiates/opioids?
Off a 30mg Roxi. Havent done any in a month, i feel so amazing.
Too bad they are addictive.
This is how I felt when I was eating 15mg morphine tabs this weekend. I missed that warm, was about a year or 2 for me since having a real good opiate and not some sub like kratom. God, that morphine with some dabs and my box mod vape. was in heaven
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moonrockmushy said: Good for you, so what? When it comes to opiates you're either a freak of nature, or a fool for appreciating it.
If you're actually under the impression that through sheer willpower you can avoid the negative consequences you're wrong. If by some stroke of luck you're somehow incapable of being addicted, which I seriously doubt, I would try to hold back from talking up opiates because it's going to give alot of people the wrong impression.
Just saying, appreciating them considering what they've done to so many people is either selfish, or incredibly naive.
I've been addicted to smack, have had to lock myself in a motel with xanax and bud and sweat it all out. I still love opiates, I just know how far to let that love go now. Can't spend the whole week with the bitch. It's like that one girl you went to school with who moved whos hot but a psycho. You fuck her when she comes into town every now and again for a day or so, but you never ever invite her to stay longer, ever
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: xbloodwhipx]
#22238171 - 09/14/15 07:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I love them but no appreciation will you get from me sir! They are a curse.
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That's the critical thing, I'm glad you mentioned it. I'm not "taking up" opiates. I have no schedule and no weekly amount or plan for them. I simply do some, stash the rest away for awhile, and then revisit when I feel as though I've earned myself a break.
I'm not special or a freak of nature I'm just happy in life and not using drugs to make up for anything or fill some void. A lot of people can't do it, but I know a handful of people like myself that do.
I hate the fact that everyone says it's impossible to do this. I think that very statement makes it easier for others to fail.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: ModestMouse] 1
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ModestMouse said: That's the critical thing, I'm glad you mentioned it. I'm not "taking up" opiates. I have no schedule and no weekly amount or plan for them. I simply do some, stash the rest away for awhile, and then revisit when I feel as though I've earned myself a break.
I'm not special or a freak of nature I'm just happy in life and not using drugs to make up for anything or fill some void. A lot of people can't do it, but I know a handful of people like myself that do.
I hate the fact that everyone says it's impossible to do this. I think that very statement makes it easier for others to fail.
Just gotta comment on this man. I wasn't trying to fill a void in my life until I had taken opiates to the point that without them there was a void in my life. I created the void in my life with opiates and the only thing that could fill it was opiates.
I quit though. Took some 2 days in a row last week but that's the first time in a while. I can revisit them now every once in a while as long as I don't buy enough to be high for days. But I dont even really find them enjoyable now. I feel like I mustve burnt out my opioid receptors a long time ago. I mean I can burn through as much oxy or h as I want and not feel happy from it. Just not sober but not high.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: trvptamine] 1
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That's possible, I feel that way about ecstasy, there's no longer much of a high.
I recognize that it can create its own problem, that's how I originally got hooked there are ways to prevent big issues though like I've said.
I should add that I've never touched smack and don't plan on it unless for some reason I want to euthanize myself.
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yeah I wasn't trying to disagree with you. I just wanted to give my own experience. Everyone is different and it would be stupid to assume that everyone experiences opiates the same way.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: xbloodwhipx]
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ah glorious opiates, yes I love them so, the runny nose, leaking eyes, diarrhea, vomiting, hot/cold, RLS, cramps, bloating, oh how I miss those days.
friend don't let friends touch opiates more than 3 times a week.
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Well my H came
Im really high but didnt die which sucks.
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You be safe... crazy ass
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A big part of staying away from addiction is telling your dealer to not sell to you for a certain period of time (sounds stupid but works wonders if your dealer is a good person), and not touching the needle.
lulz, wut? Dealers be hitting you up every day asking you if you need some, they sure as fuck aren't going to "cut you off" because you told them to.
Crazy talk
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: danielx]
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LOL. Maybe if your heroin dealer is also your dad.
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ModestMouse said: That's the critical thing, I'm glad you mentioned it. I'm not "taking up" opiates. I have no schedule and no weekly amount or plan for them. I simply do some, stash the rest away for awhile, and then revisit when I feel as though I've earned myself a break.
I'm not special or a freak of nature I'm just happy in life and not using drugs to make up for anything or fill some void. A lot of people can't do it, but I know a handful of people like myself that do.
I hate the fact that everyone says it's impossible to do this. I think that very statement makes it easier for others to fail.
Said every addict ever.
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Still nodding hard here
Mmmmm
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: sh4d0ws]
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It's good to be able to hold off hitting up when you have access to them, congrats if that's true.
I've had an addiction to synthetic marijuana before and it was incredibly overwhelming. The only way I got over it was to stop purchasing the stuff.
If you want to quit something, stop buying it.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: sudly]
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I havent read this thread and I wont in fact im going to hide this thread after this...
FUCK OPIATES !
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I feel great
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: Apostle]
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this thread is really lacking in opiate appreciation
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: sh4d0ws]
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ModestMouse said: That's the critical thing, I'm glad you mentioned it. I'm not "taking up" opiates. I have no schedule and no weekly amount or plan for them. I simply do some, stash the rest away for awhile, and then revisit when I feel as though I've earned myself a break.
I'm not special or a freak of nature I'm just happy in life and not using drugs to make up for anything or fill some void. A lot of people can't do it, but I know a handful of people like myself that do.
I hate the fact that everyone says it's impossible to do this. I think that very statement makes it easier for others to fail.
Said every addict ever.

Yeah I think the root of the addiction is that wanting to make it work. Once you're expending any willpower at all, it's got you. Maybe some part of you even knows that you're fucking up, but when you're young there is a part of you that is like "it's worth it now, and I will just be extra-tough later" but that is bullshit. Complete and utter bullshit.
I knew a couple people here and there who casually used opiates here and there, but most of these people I feel never got to the point where they were familiar with different classes of drugs enough to appreciate them. They're the type of people that don't obsess over drugs. I think when other people start dropping like flies most of these people changed their attitude regarding opiates, because these are people who use drugs legitimately for recreation and fun, and the truth is opiates aren't especially fun compared to other drugs.
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opiates are fucking awesome. i use a strategy called "do it once, don't do it for a long fucking time." this leads to it being a completely positive experience every time.
i argued with people in a thread a year or two ago about how there's literally no chance of addiction using that method. lots of people disagreed. but they're wrong, cuz i've held true to my method and i'm still good.
hell i'm more addicted to weed than anything else, the supposedly "non-addictive" drug lol...it's actually the only drug i've ever been psychologically dependent on at any point in my life. the fact that it's supposedly benign makes it easier to abuse than something harder like opiates, personally.
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There's no chance of developing a physical dependence you mean. Addiction is a kinda amorphous thing, and it's possible that you're like that, but you're eventually going to have more and more tension in your brain the more you do them. That's how brains work. When you're doing something that you're convinced feels fucking awesome in any sort of repetitive manner, you get addicted to that thing.
If you can be addicted to weed and have problems controlling your use there, it is stupid to think you'll be fine with opiates. Do as you will but at some point you're going to have to make a hard choice to continue or stop, and the catch is that is always a hell of a lot harder than you think.
Here is something someone who is not addicted to opiates might say:
"I have done opiates but I don't see what all the fuss was about." "If I never did another opiate it would be fine with me" "I don't care about opiates"
Just because you're not sick yet doesn't mean you're not an addict. You're just not hooked yet is the difference. Enjoy it while it lasts. It's not a road you can just get off of at the end, and you just never know when you're crossing that line.
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well with weed i pretty much did it all the time because i thought it was harmless, not necessarily because i lacked self-control. in time, i realized that doing it all the time was not good for me.
something like opiates, i will always have self-control because i know the addiction potential is so much higher. that's why it's so easy for me to do it 1x and wait 6 months before doing it again. a drug that demands respect, gets respect from me. at this point i respect all drugs as powerful and potentially addictive though, even weed.
i now have a "less is more" approach with pretty much all substances. and it works. i do certain drugs once in a blue moon and have zero dependency on any of them.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: resonant111]
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i will always have self-control
Yeah best of luck with that, really. I think that is complete BS tho. I don't see why someone with perfect self control would even need opiates. If I didn't have problems controlling my emotions I think I would just be happy meditating and shit.
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Opiates are easier to quit than most people think. Don't get me wrong they will turn many into addicts. But to say that most people who try opiates or occasionally dabble will turn onto a full blown addict is idiotic. Just because you and your junkie friends can't handle their shit doesn't mean that alot of people can grow up and stop using. A big reason people think one use is a death sentence is because all you hear about them is the horror stories. You don't hear the success stories because their is no story. "Ya man I used opiates about once a week for a couple years in my early 30s" COOL STORY BRO. Now the withdrawal and having no money and fiending for opiates and stealing and doing sexual favors for h. Now those are stories.
To say someone can't use responsible is down right stupid and ignorant. Most people who have broke a leg and used 40 mg of oxy a day for a few months don't get addicted.
I'm not saying that it's not easy to get addicted because it is, especially if you have had traumatic issues in your past, or present, or had a bad childhoods, or whatever. But most people I know have dabbled and even got pretty heavy into opiates. 90 percent of them are clean now with hardly any issues stopping. They just grew up and realized they aren't kids anymore and have responsibilities. Kids/jobs/money problems etc.
There are millions of afficts. And yes its probably better to stop while you're ahead before you could possibly be addicted. But also there are millions of people who have used opiates stopped and never thought twice about it.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: DTCharlieB]
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if you snort battery acid it will get you way higher then heroin
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: DTCharlieB]
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I don't know... I was excited to try 180mgs of codeine but really got no euphoria, didn't find it to be that enjoyable and had minor nausea at one point. I guess they're not made for me which is probably a good thing.
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Hemuli said: I don't know... I was excited to try 180mgs of codeine but really got no euphoria, didn't find it to be that enjoyable and had minor nausea at one point. I guess they're not made for me which is probably a good thing.
Its definitely a good thing 
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: DTCharlieB]
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To say someone can't use responsible is down right stupid and ignorant. Most people who have broke a leg and used 40 mg of oxy a day for a few months don't get addicted.
Hey I never said anything like this. I think my main point is that such people don't make a point to go on the internet to make "opiate appreciation threads" or really be into opiates enough to have strong feelings about them one way or another.
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"Ya man I used opiates about once a week for a couple years in my early 30s" COOL STORY BRO. Now the withdrawal and having no money and fiending for opiates and stealing and doing sexual favors for h. Now those are stories.
I don't know who you're talking about here, but it's clear to me that you are an opiate romanticist, which again fits my profile of Jr. Junkie who thinks they're mentally tougher than they actually are, the exception to the rule. The opiates aren't the danger as much as that overconfident attitude is.
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Opiates are easier to quit than most people think.
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Nice stash. The lyricas are a nice addition, love those things.
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To say someone can't use responsible is down right stupid and ignorant. Most people who have broke a leg and used 40 mg of oxy a day for a few months don't get addicted.
Hey I never said anything like this. I think my main point is that such people don't make a point to go on the internet to make "opiate appreciation threads" or really be into opiates enough to have strong feelings about them one way or another.
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"Ya man I used opiates about once a week for a couple years in my early 30s" COOL STORY BRO. Now the withdrawal and having no money and fiending for opiates and stealing and doing sexual favors for h. Now those are stories.
I don't know who you're talking about here, but it's clear to me that you are an opiate romanticist, which again fits my profile of Jr. Junkie who thinks they're mentally tougher than they actually are, the exception to the rule. The opiates aren't the danger as much as that overconfident attitude is.
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Opiates are easier to quit than most people think.
Fucking retarded.
Don't be mad man. Everybody is wrong every once in awhile.
I haven't used in over 2 and a half years. Just stopped because I wanted too. Had no problems quitting, no withdrawal, just stopped. Also my post wasn't directed at anyone in particular. In the words of mr. Barthalmu Simpson don't have a cow man. I know it's fun to play forum daddy but most people don't want to hear it. I'm sure people that use are well informed on the potential addiction problems that accompany opiate use. And lots of people quit quite easily.
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I'm not mad, I just resent people who seek to revere opiates. People always say that the problem is just the people who become addicted to them, and that is why they are illegal, but in my opinion the problem is people who seek to glorify drugs, which was drug companies to start, and is often taken up by immature people who say things like "if opiates were legalized tommorow I would def be an addict" and "I will never get addicted because I don't take them that often"
You think many people want to see an "opiate appreciation thread" run by a bunch of naive and overconfident kids? In the words of some asshole

You're clearly not aware, and I doubt anything will change that, but I'll be damned if I'm going to let anyone else be influenced on the subject of opiates by kids who think that the addictive potential is overblown.
I can't think of many things that are harder to stop than opiates, and some people have the good sense to realize that and not obsess over them.
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Not mad, just resentful? I think the point is that the dangers of opiate addiction are shoved in our face by the media and word of mouth, what youre saying isn't eye opening.
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I love opiates especially pills. Went through a fair share in my younger days but my use died down when my sources eventually went dry and I wasn't willing to dabble in H. I knew if I ever touched it, I would be in love.
I've never known someone who could effectively manage their heroin habit. Lost a few buddies to it.
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Opiates are great, just excersize prudent self control, and don't be another statistic.
Those who fear the drugs are really displaying a lack of faith in themselves and their self control.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: ModestMouse]
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ModestMouse said: Not mad, just resentful? I think the point is that the dangers of opiate addiction are shoved in our face by the media and word of mouth, what youre saying isn't eye opening.
Oh so you just want to have your little corner of the internet where you can glorify opiates without acknowledging the reality that they are widely known to ruin lives, many people have lost friends to them, and lies like "Opiates are easier to quit than most people think." persist exclusively among people who have limited experience with opiates.
Fuck that. You're admitting that I'm right, yet somehow you have a problem with what I'm saying?
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Get the fuck out of the thread if it irks you so bad  You're belaboring the point and it's a played argument to begin with: we've all heard it.
You're not going to change anyone's mind, what is your goal?
I've got nothing against you but I find your entire plight here confusing. You trying to convince yourself they're bad? Because I don't think anyone in the opiate appreciation thread wants to hear it
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Put me on ignore if my pointing out that only a fool would glorify opiates bothers you.
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For someone who doesn't like them you've spent an awful lot of time talking about them in the thread. Hmm...
I still am blown away that you can't concede that some individuals use opiates infrequently for recreation and have a hell of a time doing it.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: ModestMouse]
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opiates are boring af imo. i mean i love oxy but things like codeine, kratom, etc just suck.
i love love LOVE LOVE uppers though
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All drugs have their place. That's been my point throughout the thread, if you keep your head on your shoulders you can enjoy nearly any recreational drug safely. I really can't pick a category of drug I like the best. If I could have an unlimited amount of any drug though it'd probably be nitrous. Shits unbelievably addicting to me.
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I really wanna try nitrous
I tried getting high off a can of whipped cream lol but it didn't work. Is there even enough nitrous in there to get me high?
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Don't fuck with whipped cream, waste of money. Go to a sex store and ask for it, they should have canisters.
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Why the f would a sex store carry nitrous?
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I have no answer, but they do
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: Alexestalex]
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Probably not in a can of whipped cream, it's hard to do without getting a mouthful of cream too :P
Only porn stores in America sell them, Australian ones don't.
A few small grocery store chains sell nitrous oxide (in Australia) Smoking stores here don't sell any nitrous crackers so it's best to order one online or go to a kitchen store and buy a whipped cream dispenser.
Because they are rare and often not in stock it's far easier to order some nitrous online as well as a cracker. Cracker = $30 Nitrous cylinder = $10 for 10. Balloons = $1
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ModestMouse said: For someone who doesn't like them you've spent an awful lot of time talking about them in the thread. Hmm...
I still am blown away that you can't concede that some individuals use opiates infrequently for recreation and have a hell of a time doing it.
Again, I didn't say that it is impossible, just highly unlikely. They're a very boring drug for what you'll likely end up dealing with because of them. That's just the truth.
What's your favorite part of the opiate experience? Looking like you're sucking your own dick or feeling temporarily liberated from your stress and anxiety without actually having to do anything?
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What's your favorite part of the opiate experience? Looking like you're sucking your own dick or feeling temporarily liberated from your stress and anxiety without actually having to do anything?
I know you were asking other dude this question, but I felt like weighing in.
Heroin made me feel supreme, totally on top of my game, I was very sociable and not one of those J's that was always catching a nod and drooling on themselves. Heroin always gave me TONS of energy, and that was great.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: Lucis]
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Yeah so was I, but when my life stagnated I started to get jealous of my friends who could seemingly get completely oblivious on half the amount, where I could just take more and more, and there is always that restlessness that drove me to take heroin in the first place. It actually grows the more you take it, and the drug helps less and less.
By using heroin for those reasons, you're actively reprogramming your brain to depend on heroin as a coping mechanism. It might feel good at first, but it never lasts and never ends well.
Just hanging out with people who fell asleep in the middle of sentences was some part of my motivation to quit like I said half of me would be jealous, but it's just so fucking obnoxious, especially considering they all deny it, just like everyone getting into opiates denies that they will ever get addicted.
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Best opiates I ever did were from the pods. Either vaping/smoking the opium or making tea from the pods. I've never been more fucked than I was on the pods. That said, i'm not big into opiates just for their addictive potential. Nowadays if my favorite thing is just a hydrocodone. Something mild to elevate the mood but nothing so good it leaves me wanting more.
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i will always have self-control
Yeah best of luck with that, really. I think that is complete BS tho. I don't see why someone with perfect self control would even need opiates. If I didn't have problems controlling my emotions I think I would just be happy meditating and shit.
That's exactly what someone told me in the opiate thread a year or two ago. They guaranteed I would soon become addicted to pills and just lose self-control entirely because opiates are "so addictive."
Still do em' when I want (aka very rarely). Only do it once then wait a long time before even considering doing it again. All is well. The opiate addiction scare talk kind of reminds me of the reformed alcoholics who talk down on people who drink just because they couldn't handle the drug. Sorry but some people can. 
(I'd also like to note that I have only done pills. Don't see any reason to fuck with anything beyond that, for good reason.)
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: resonant111]
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opiates are so EVIL
do yourself a favor, and smoke some cigarettes and drink booze, like me.
its so much better than opiates. even though it kills exponentially more people.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: Adolin]
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That's exactly what someone told me in the opiate thread a year or two ago. They guaranteed I would soon become addicted to pills and just lose self-control entirely because opiates are "so addictive."
The opiate thread? Again, cool story. I used opiates for probably like 5 or 6 years before I even had a slight problem with them, but by the time I was well versed enough to know the difference between opiates and other pills, and which ones I liked and which ones I didn't there really wasn't any way to say I wasn't addicted in retrospect.
They are addictive, name something more physically addictive than opiates. It's just retarded to say they're not, or that people make too big a deal of it.
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do yourself a favor, and smoke some cigarettes and drink booze, like me.
its so much better than opiates. even though it kills exponentially more people.
Do me a favor, and pull you head out of your ass. They're not evil, kids who think they can control their use with opiates are morons. That's all I'm saying.
I would say the same with alcohol and cigs, and people who are budding alkies and cig fiends would probably make a retarded statement like "cigarettes and alcohol are fucking awesome man".
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Do me a favor, and pull you head out of your ass.
No. the cognitive dissonance would be too much.
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I would say the same with alcohol and cigs, and people who are budding alkies and cig fiends would probably make a retarded statement like "cigarettes and alcohol are fucking awesome man".
as an 'alkie' and 'cig fiend', i can confirm that smoking/drinking does indeed feel "fucking awesome man".
it feels so "fucking awesome man", that its way more difficult to stop using than it was for me to quit opiates(my just personal experiance). i dropped opiates like a hot potato. cant say the same for alcohol/tobacco
not saying 'go shoot some heroin' though. just saying that berating someone for liking opiates is just as absurd as berating someone for getting drunk every once in awhile or smoking
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You obviously didn't use opiates very long. You're probably a young person who doesn't have as much experience with drugs as you think, and being someone who thought the same it would benefit you alot to take in both sides of the coin and try to make choices that will not fuck you over in the long term rather than count on circumstances to keep you from getting hooked. Maybe that works sometimes, but it's just a dumb gamble to make.
Fuck having an opiate appreciation in the pub. Take that shit to ODD. It's a pain in the ass to me because most people here will admit that they do it to cope with social anxiety, and because it is the one thing that makes them feel good, but then when you point out this is addict-talk all the sudden they are the epitome of control and the most casual of casual users. Especially when they say they went through a small spat of addiction with weed already, so now they know better That's bullshit and I know it.
People with stress and anxiety who depend on drugs are going to get burned, it's inevitable. Being a drug nerd won't stop that, it will only give you a false sense of confidence. I know some people who will take a vicodin here and there for soreness or even to get high, but I just can't picture any of them glorifying the drug, and they don't really seek it out or care very much one way or another because they don't need it. It's different when someone wants to come in and talk up opiates as if the risks are actually much more manageable than people make out. Anyone who says that obviously hasn't been around opiates that long, and I think is being mislead to their own detriment.
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honestly the reason i love taking opiates is because it makes ambient/drone music the greatest thing in the world for a few hours. it's like crawling back into the womb for a short while, especially with the lights off in your bed. every now and again, i want that kind of feeling.
no different than doing any other kind of drug once in a blue moon. just a different state of mind for me.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: resonant111]
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So it's really not that great? In terms of experience it's like any other drug? I don't see what is so exciting about that, and sounds like pretty lame reasoning considering what is at stake, but if that is what is important to you I'm sure that's what you'll do.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: xbloodwhipx]
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I would say, from the volume of bickering in this thread - that the most likely effect of opiates is to render one an insufferable git!
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moonrockmushy said: So it's really not that great? In terms of experience it's like any other drug? I don't see what is so exciting about that, and sounds like pretty lame reasoning considering what is at stake, but if that is what is important to you I'm sure that's what you'll do.
The fact that it's merely an altered state of consciousness makes it just like any drug. The opiate experience itself is outstanding. It's like being in loop of warm, bodily bliss for multiple hours, it's fucking great. i can see why people can get addicted to that. you just gotta be smart and make a firm resolve to be responsible about it.
"the difference between poison and medicine is in the dose" (and frequency of dose!)
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: twighead]
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twighead said: I would say, from the volume of bickering in this thread - that the most likely effect of opiates is to render one an insufferable git! 
100% true 
First you hate anyone who would get between you and your beloved opiates, then if you're lucky you get to a point you realize that they're a rotten bitch who wants to weaken you. Either way it involves alot of bitching, which is another reason why an opiate appreciation thread is ridiculous.
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Well yea, if you paint extremes like that you're gonna run into problems. This argument is running in circles at this point though.
Some people can handle opiates in moderation. Others apparently can't. Case closed.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: resonant111]
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But everyone thinks they can moderate at first you guys in this thread sound more like the latter to me. Finalword had.
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Dude i've been moderating for like, i don't even know...five years maybe? So obviously it's possible.
I don't expect to go on an opiate binge anytime soon lol.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: resonant111]
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moonrock plz just stfu. You complain and bitch about this in literally every opiate thread.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: kakashi68]
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i like em but i like beiing able to shit properly more
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: thelanzii]
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I think it's funny when someone who was weak enough to get addicted to something thinks that because it happened to them it will happen to everyone. And usually the addicted junkies run in groups so they see the behavior of others and think this happens to everyone. It's foolish to think everyone who touches an opiate is going to turn out to be a bum who steals whatever and from whomever to support their habit. Everyone is different some people can handle occasional use. Some can even handle doing it 4 or 5 times a week and then just stop. When needles get involved it seems like it turns into a different story though. But most don't get that far.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: DTCharlieB]
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I been chipping for two years.
It took years of addiction to get to this point though.
i actually had a sixteen month bender and didnt withdraw. I think the body may actually adapt after going through so many kicks.
Who knows?
The high is anything but just "looking like youre trying to suck your own dick" though. For me at least it makes me social gives me energy and sooo much more.
Its like a stim a benzo and alcohol all in one. I love it.
Also five hour long sex marathons wouldnt be possible without it.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: DTCharlieB]
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I'm with moonrock on this. These kind of threads at best give the recreational user reassurance that their occasional use is ok and at worst tempt the opiate naive. Using opiates at first is nice, maybe even life-enriching but in the long-term you will be burned one way or another. The odds are against you having a healthy relationship with opiates when used regularly
If you can do without them why risk it? If you can't do without them why tempt others?
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: olson]
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Theres no way to hide the fact that theyre awesome.
Time and time again peoples attempts to disuade curious newcomers has failed.
I think campaiging against opiates is a wasted effort. 
Its kinda like sex back when people used to try n suppress those desires as well. People want to find out for themselves and they will.
The best you can do is warn of the dangers of addiction. No need to go all fire and brimstone.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: Apostle]
#22245584 - 09/16/15 11:44 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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its not so much campaigning against opiates its shunning people who praise them which i think is ok and maybe helps.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: olson]
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It's not the poppies fault some people have demon's PEACE
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: olson]
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I can respect that. While i have doubts that it helps anything i believe in freedom of speech.
Im getting drunk right now. I always talk shit bout alcohol. Its actually really nice till the comedown. There is no comedown with opiates.
I wish my doc was legal.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: Apostle]
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I have a terrible love affair with being in a nodding state.
My favorite combo is combining lines of sass with dope. Talk about Max euphoria. All while smoking joint after joint. Such an amazing feel. Probably really bad for my heart tho....
Man i miss dope and think about it daily, but i left that life behind and im onto my new love of kratom.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: kakashi68]
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kakashi68 said: moonrock plz just stfu. You complain and bitch about this in literally every opiate thread.
Please learn to use the word literally in a way that would literally make sense 
I shit all over opiate threads because I find people that promote them for recreational use obnoxious, and I want to assure people who don't take them that they're making the right decision. Trying to act like you're not playing with fire because of "oh I have self control" comes off as arrogant and immature, so I think we're full of mutual resentment for each-other, and just having a good ol' time. You think the fault lies 100% with me because you are a smackhead in denial, and that's ok, but I'm going to tell you like it is.
Nobody wants to hear about other people's love affair with nodding. That's boring. If people want to know about the opiate experience go read some WSB or something, but unless you're someone who thinks that is edgy and if you take opiates maybe you'll be super edgy too, you probably won't be that inclined to take them yourself.
I find the more people like opiates, the more boring they become. I am not just doing this for you, I am doing this so I don't have to live in a world full of pussies who think that the way to treat their adolescent stress and anxiety is to take a drug intended for victims of serious tramua. That's just a bad idea, and you guys are encouraging it.
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it isnt intended for anything.
Morphine exists naturally.
We decide what its used for.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: Apostle]
#22246164 - 09/16/15 01:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ok, so in your opinion using opiates to treat adolescent angst totally valid, because it's natural 
People do this shit because they convince each-other it is cool, which it really isn't. Cool is being able to handle stress and anxiety like a man, not seeking out a false sense of security through drugs that put you at ease.
If you have a broken leg sticking out your skin, I encourage you to go take some opiates. If you have a hard time feeling good while you sit alone in your room listening to music, you're an addiction waiting to happen.
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kakashi68 said: moonrock plz just stfu. You complain and bitch about this in literally every opiate thread.
Please learn to use the word literally in a way that would literally make sense 
I shit all over opiate threads because I find people that promote them for recreational use obnoxious, and I want to assure people who don't take them that they're making the right decision. Trying to act like you're not playing with fire because of "oh I have self control" comes off as arrogant and immature, so I think we're full of mutual resentment for each-other, and just having a good ol' time. You think the fault lies 100% with me because you are a smackhead in denial, and that's ok, but I'm going to tell you like it is.
Nobody wants to hear about other people's love affair with nodding. That's boring. If people want to know about the opiate experience go read some WSB or something, but unless you're someone who thinks that is edgy and if you take opiates maybe you'll be super edgy too, you probably won't be that inclined to take them yourself.
I find the more people like opiates, the more boring they become. I am not just doing this for you, I am doing this so I don't have to live in a world full of pussies who think that the way to treat their adolescent stress and anxiety is to take a drug intended for victims of serious tramua. That's just a bad idea, and you guys are encouraging it.
as far as I know most people that take opiates experience serious trauma :/ Mental trauma is almost always worse than physical trauma. The amount of stories ive heard from junkies is sickening. The amount of child abuse, sexual, rape, violence, loneliness, rejection, pain is crazy. NO ONE turns and does heroin because "it sounds fun" People do it because of pain, that is all.
plz find me an opiate thread where you havent complained.
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Opiates and opioids make me feel like total shit. Itching horribly terrible nausea? And the fact that they give absolutely zero physical or mental euphoria? I think not
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: kakashi68]
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I've dabbled with various opioids (oxycodone, oxymorphone, hydrocodone, hydromorphone, & H a few times.....) occasionally for 7 years or so now...I have never fallen into what I'd consider addiction or any prolonged regular use, I've only had one stretch of regular use a few years ago (30 days or so of almost daily use, around 10mg to 15mg of OC up the nose).
I never had any regular dosing/use with them besides that one time....Sometimes I'd put the stuff up my nose a few times a week, then I'd go many weeks or a month or so before touching any opiate again...other times I'd touch em' once or twice a week for a month or two, then go another few weeks/month with out touching them again. When ever I took em' I wasn't trying to get on the nod (though I certainly have before), just liked to catch a nice buzz from time to time, they make me much more social and get me out of my head. The main reasons I was using them, besides enjoying the euphoria, was they made me social and interactive with people. When going to a friends party or a social event, I'd take 10mg of oxy or a hydro instead of drinking alcohol .
I've always been super sensitive to opiates too, even a mere 5mg of hydrocodone will make me feel real nice...and even after that one stretch of regular use I did have, around 10mg of OC would still get me high even after using almost daily for almost a month..... I never increased my dose/intake because of tolerance, because I knew what it was that I was fucking with.
Knowing what it was I was dabbling with....I know that falling into addiction is entirely my choice and in my control....and I've witnessed a couple friends lose their grip on the slippery slope that is opioid use, while I maintained my grip/moderation (they don't have a problem with the stuff these days).
I enjoy opioids from time to time but I certainly do not "appreciate" opiates like I do with something like cannabis .....I don't glorify or put opioids in a positive light, but I don't demonize them either...I look at them in a neutral way, in the same way as I look at all drugs....When you bring a person into the equation, they're relationship with the drug and why they're using it, and how much control they have over their urges to chase a high...that's when "bad" things may result. But the drug itself isn't inherently a "bad" or evil thing.
Personally...I just like to get high on them from time to time, but I know addiction and w/d from them is absolutely no joke, so I don't let myself fall into any regular use and don't increase my intake of anything when I notice tolerance increasing. Someone that's purely looking for an escape, someone that wants to dose high enough to nod and chase that nod every time, someone that's naive and may lack knowledge of how shitty the w/d is and how fierce of a grip opioids can get on them.....that'll be a different story.
I'm the same way with cigarettes....I've been an occasional smoker for years, never felt addicted and never have any cravings for them . Packs can sit on my dresser for weeks without being touched, then one weekend I might smoke the entire pack while out at a festival or something....then go another week or two before lighting another one up.
I took 5mg of oxycodone a couple weeks ago, can't remember the last time I touched any opiate before then...it's really just a few times a year for me at this point.
....just my 2 cents, though I know I've dropped this same 2 cents around here before .
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: Alexestalex]
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i love love LOVE LOVE uppers though
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: xbloodwhipx]
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Opiates can be great and some of them feel really good but it's only in small dosages do I like the effects. I think they really only produce the proper amount of euphoria if you do them once every 3-4 weeks max. Some of them aren't very euphoric at all but the ones that are couldn't be further from boring. Especially if you mix in some weed.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: danielx]
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Kratom is like the whore i fuck while im thinking of her.
god damn truth right there.
Thanks guys, Was thinking of ordering Some kratom but you changed my mind. I LOVE my every year 2 month opium binge. And thought that Some kratom after that would be nice. But fuck it after your comments....it's allready been three days coldturkey and been able to work so fuck it..
And for all you young psyconauts be aware of the addictivity&toxitivity of opiats. IT CAN BE REALLY ROUGH ROAD
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Just gotta say Tramadol is in my opinion the best quality of high opiates have to offer.
I realize that its also one of the weakest, but if you take enough its basically a high all its own. Its an opiate and a SNRI.
To me it feels like im rolling except my body feels like opiates instead of speed. Just be careful with it because over 400mg in a day greatly increases your chances for having a seizure. And don't take it more than 1 day in a row recreationally because the fun goes away really quickly and you are left feeling like an emotional bitch.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: PanzerCubed]
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: kakashi68]
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kakashi68 said: .... as far as I know most people that take opiates experience serious trauma :/ Mental trauma is almost always worse than physical trauma. The amount of stories ive heard from junkies is sickening. The amount of child abuse, sexual, rape, violence, loneliness, rejection, pain is crazy. NO ONE turns and does heroin because "it sounds fun" People do it because of pain, that is all.
plz find me an opiate thread where you havent complained.
I totally agree that people turn to heroin because they lack coping mechanisms, but there is a reason that opiates are not prescribed for this. Another way of looking at this is that these people are emotionally compromised, and the way to fix that isn't to cover up the problem for a couple hours, it is to learn healthy coping mechanisms, which is something some people fail to do at a young age for whatever reason.
As long as we're clear that you guys aren't just using opiates because it is a super fun time and nobody here is going to suffer because we are aware of the dangers and going to be super careful.
I can guarantee that at least some of the people here are going to suffer greatly because of opiates. Maybe you will be the one who never really is in a position where you're vulnerable and have access to opiates, great, good for you. When you look back and realize that you had this attitude about something that kills people so regularly, and leaves the rest wasting their life in a very pathetic cycle of self-loathing and self-abuse, you would be a fool not to regret it. You'd be much better off just learning to cope naturally like so many people throughout the course of human history have done.
I think some people get the idea that it is a character building experience, dealing with addiction. That might be true to some extent in the same way being way into auto-erotic asphyxiation is a character building experience. You'll probably learn alot about yourself and the fine line between indulging yourself and dangerous self-abuse, but if you go around telling people that is one of your favorite things the majority are going to look down on you as if you have some sort of person problem, even if you just do it every once in a while, and don't hold the belt on that tight. You might think that everyone else is judgmental and doesn't get it, and that probably makes you want to choke-wank even harder to spite them, but you're the one with the problem. We all have to deal with our own problems, and taking opiates is not a way to solve problems, it is a way to convince yourself that you've solved problems when you actually haven't.
Also like I said earlier, if you want to take this to ODD I don't go even look there, and I'm sure they have opiate threads. You actually think I'm in every single one? Obviously I've made some sort of impression I understand your anger I felt the same way about people that doubted me when I was deluding myself into thinking that I was the one who would make it work. I would be remiss if I did not point out the obvious follies in appreciating opiates as a "recreational" drug.
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The buzz I get from kratom is 10x better than Tramadol. My dog gets a rx for Tramadol for her arthritis. I tried one of them one time and the buzz literally sucked for me.
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I thought tramadol wasn't actually an opiate. Just that it worked off the opiate receptors like kratom does. I could be wrong though, I don't really care for tramadol.
But I agree with the person who said they do the "once in a blue moon" thing. Opiates are kind of a shitty thing to get a high tolerance to cuz the next thing you know you get into a car accident and the steering wheel gets lodged into your chest cavity and there's nothing the hospital can do to numb your pain cept put you in a coma.
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Youre actually correct. It isn't an "opiate" but it is a "synthetic opioid". Which are basically the same thing. Fentanyl is a synthetic opioid like tramadol but without the fun serotonin and norepinephrine effects added like tram.
@daytripper05 you kinda gotta up the dose with tramadol. Its opiate effects are weaker than codeine. The buzz is much more blissful at an equivilant dose though than other opiates in my opinion. That's just my opinion though.
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NO THEY ARE NOT! IMHO OPIATS AND SYNTHETIC OPIODS ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS...JUST MY 2 CENTS AFTER YERAS OF USE. IF YOU MUST USE CHOOSE NATURE!
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I get where youre coming from man. But natural opiates are almost BS in my opinion. Ive always had a hard time getting high on Codeine or Morphine, whereas semi-synthetics like hydrocodone, oxy, and H always got me high as balls until I built the mega tolerance I have today.
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I'm guessing that was down to the relative dosage. Codiene has some natural limitations since it causes alot of side effects from histamines and even can cause seizures if the dose is too high, but morphine is the classic "full spectrum" opiate, and heroin is the same exact thing as morphine only it is much quicker at getting into the brain. An acetylized morphine molecule (heroin) can pass freely through the blood brain barrier, but then it is immediately metabolized into morphine after that.
Hydrocodone, oxycodone, and fentanyl are known to have a more selective action in what receptors they hit. Some people like this because they get less side effects, but in terms of getting high opiates are opioids that happen to be found in opium. They're all more or less the same. That's why people who think sticking to pharm drugs is a good way not to get addicted are really kidding themselves, as are people who think that "natural" opiates are superior.
I mean you could synthesize morphine, it would still be morphine.
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trvptamine said: Just gotta say Tramadol is in my opinion the best quality of high opiates have to offer.
I realize that its also one of the weakest, but if you take enough its basically a high all its own. Its an opiate and a SNRI.
To me it feels like im rolling except my body feels like opiates instead of speed. Just be careful with it because over 400mg in a day greatly increases your chances for having a seizure. And don't take it more than 1 day in a row recreationally because the fun goes away really quickly and you are left feeling like an emotional bitch.
Be careful, tolerance kills the high on those. I used to get off on 150mg, then i took 400mg once and loved it... Then i started taking 10-12 at a time, 14 once. Started mixing them with lyrica, and then they sucked without it.
Im so fucking lucky i didnt have a seizure. 150mg used to make me feel SO good. It wasnt even a normal opiate high, it was this nice strange tweaky good feeling in my lower back and head, covered in some euphoria. I mean i liked em better then oxy. Now they do jack shit for me.
God i miss the opiate high, it feel good now but nothing like it used to. Especially the tramadol. I took 150mg nucynta once in my tramadol days and it blew me away. Took em for 5 or 6 days in a row. I remember when hydrocodone used to make everything warm and itchy and wobbily. That feeling. I need to shut up, tolerance is a bitch.
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Dont even get me started on the first time i did oxy. I was on xbox playing battlefield or some war game and i started messaging random people to tell them the state of bliss i was in. No more. Even if i near take a fatal dose it doesnt feel that good anymore.
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Never shot heroin, maybe that would feel like it used to... One day in the future i shall find out
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I already know man. The only reason I can feel anything from tramadol anymore is because I basically stopped taking opiates all together after I ODd on H last year.
And yeah I never take more than 400mg because I don't want to have a seizure but any less than 400mg and I don't really feel anything except maybe some visual enhancement and stimulation from the SNRI side of it.
Be careful with banging H though man if you do end up trying it. Its really easy to use too much. And the second "too much" hits you its like you cant see or hear or think or speak or anything.
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I wish tramadol still got me high. It had a different feeling from any other opiate i have ever taken.
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Plus it lasted like 15 hours
The only thing i could compare it to would be tussionex. But i havent done tussionex since my tolerance sky rocketed, so i doubt it would even get me high anymore.
I think the difference is now, opiates make me feel good. They used to make me FUCKED UP haha.
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Hydrocodone, oxycodone, and fentanyl are known to have a more selective action in what receptors they hit. Some people like this because they get less side effects, but in terms of getting high opiates are opioids that happen to be found in opium. They're all more or less the same. That's why people who think sticking to pharm drugs is a good way not to get addicted are really kidding themselves, as are people who think that "natural" opiates are superior.
I mean you could synthesize morphine, it would still be morphine.
Yep you can synth morphine...agree on that. But try To do a synth with full spcetrum of alkaloids found on poppies. Enyway poppy Tea or opium gives me much nicer high filled with energia compared To pharmas.
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moonrockmushy said: I'm guessing that was down to the relative dosage. Codiene has some natural limitations since it causes alot of side effects from histamines and even can cause seizures if the dose is too high, but morphine is the classic "full spectrum" opiate, and heroin is the same exact thing as morphine only it is much quicker at getting into the brain. An acetylized morphine molecule (heroin) can pass freely through the blood brain barrier, but then it is immediately metabolized into morphine after that.
Hydrocodone, oxycodone, and fentanyl are known to have a more selective action in what receptors they hit. Some people like this because they get less side effects, but in terms of getting high opiates are opioids that happen to be found in opium. They're all more or less the same. That's why people who think sticking to pharm drugs is a good way not to get addicted are really kidding themselves, as are people who think that "natural" opiates are superior.
I mean you could synthesize morphine, it would still be morphine.
you cant synth morphine. Hence why the world is still dependent on the poppy plant.
Plz stfu and stay out of the opiate APPRECIATION thread. We all know you hate opiates. plz take your bitching elsewhere. You have done nothing and have turned 0 people off opiates. so go away.
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moonrockmushy said: I'm guessing that was down to the relative dosage. Codiene has some natural limitations since it causes alot of side effects from histamines and even can cause seizures if the dose is too high, but morphine is the classic "full spectrum" opiate, and heroin is the same exact thing as morphine only it is much quicker at getting into the brain. An acetylized morphine molecule (heroin) can pass freely through the blood brain barrier, but then it is immediately metabolized into morphine after that.
Hydrocodone, oxycodone, and fentanyl are known to have a more selective action in what receptors they hit. Some people like this because they get less side effects, but in terms of getting high opiates are opioids that happen to be found in opium. They're all more or less the same. That's why people who think sticking to pharm drugs is a good way not to get addicted are really kidding themselves, as are people who think that "natural" opiates are superior.
I mean you could synthesize morphine, it would still be morphine.
you cant synth morphine. Hence why the world is still dependent on the poppy plant.
Plz stfu and stay out of the opiate APPRECIATION thread. We all know you hate opiates. plz take your bitching elsewhere. You have done nothing and have turned 0 people off opiates. so go away.
You CAN synth morphine without poppies.
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moonrockmushy said: I'm guessing that was down to the relative dosage. Codiene has some natural limitations since it causes alot of side effects from histamines and even can cause seizures if the dose is too high, but morphine is the classic "full spectrum" opiate, and heroin is the same exact thing as morphine only it is much quicker at getting into the brain. An acetylized morphine molecule (heroin) can pass freely through the blood brain barrier, but then it is immediately metabolized into morphine after that.
Hydrocodone, oxycodone, and fentanyl are known to have a more selective action in what receptors they hit. Some people like this because they get less side effects, but in terms of getting high opiates are opioids that happen to be found in opium. They're all more or less the same. That's why people who think sticking to pharm drugs is a good way not to get addicted are really kidding themselves, as are people who think that "natural" opiates are superior.
I mean you could synthesize morphine, it would still be morphine.
you cant synth morphine. Hence why the world is still dependent on the poppy plant.
Plz stfu and stay out of the opiate APPRECIATION thread. We all know you hate opiates. plz take your bitching elsewhere. You have done nothing and have turned 0 people off opiates. so go away.
Opiates are for pussays who can't handle normal human emotions. I feel bad for people who are also so dumb that they will probably never realize that.
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One time in junior high school I found a prescription bottle filled with oxycodone. If I remember correctly it was approximately 30 or 40 5mg tablets. My typical dose was around 10-15 mg, but sometimes higher & sometimes lower. They were okay... nothing special. I didn't really care for stuff like that though... nor do I now. I'm a weed & psychedelics kind of person. Do I think everyone who tries them gets addicted to opiates? No. I didn't get addicted. I made those 30 or 40 tablets last me over 6 months. Just like how in more recent times I received 30 or 35 10mg amphetamines salts XR & I've had them for about 3 months now. Last time I took any was about 3 weeks or a month ago. I'm definitely not addicted.
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I know very few people who like to nod out on opiates. I know some do but most people that I knew that took them took them to have a good time, party, or get some extra energy and clean their house or some crap. I hate nodding. I don't want to just fall asleep and waste a buzz. I wanna get down, get dirty, get real deep into some fur and just go to town and paint that shit red. Maybe drink a juice box afterwards.
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But alot of people don't seem to realize that by taking opiates to have a good time, you are training your brain to find healthy activities less rewarding in favor of opiates. It might take some longer than others, but it's inevitable, and nobody usually is aware when they have crossed that line. It might take 10 pills, might take 1000, but every opiate you take is changing the way you think.
When you do something physically or mentally demanding your body releases natural endorphin. These are what allow you to have a good time at things that are strenuous and difficult. By ingesting these endorphins (opiates closely resemble natural endorphins) without actually doing anything to deserve them, you're training yourself to enjoy opiates over constructive things. Every little bit is making you more miserable without them, and if you're not on track and happy with your life, which I know alot of people here aren't, I can promise you're making things way more difficult than they need to be. Mushrooms or weed might make you anxious, but the answer to that isn't to take downers, it is to reduce your intake and do healthy things that relax you naturally.
If you are on track and happy with your life, I can promise you don't need opiates to have fun. I know everyone here is convinced that you only do it to add a little extra fun where fun is lacking, but that is where it gets you.
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So is hypnosis lol opium is a disgusting, cruel bitch.
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The abuse potential for those with addictive personality dis just to high for me to get on board with it. Plus I hate being around people nodding on h or strung out on oxy.
Oh your going to pass out in your own vomit, your real fun to hang out with.
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well people also take doses that are wayyyyy too fucking high. my approach is to do the bare minimum to get a buzz.
it's actually better that way anyways cuz you feel fucking amazing and no negative side effects. the people that eat shit tons of pills and pass out in their barf are morons.
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I don't care what anyone does with their own bodies haha Opiates just ain't my jam
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Oh your going to pass out in your own vomit, your real fun to hang out with.
I think I could tolerate it a little better if they didn't all deny it when they nod off, pretty much without fail. All these people saying they just take a little bit for whatever slight benefit are probably actually nodding if my experience is correct. They're all like old men, "oh I was just resting my eyes" then you're like, "so what did I just say then?" and they usually get angrily defensive then fall asleep in your face again in another minute or two tops only to repeat the whole cycle over again
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I personally don't like nodding out unless I'm honestly trying to sleep. Even then there's probably half a dozen things that would more comfortably put me out.
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still sometimes doing proper nods is fun. Recently I was watching a stand up special. Though I only probs saw 1/4 of it, rest being in semi conscious nod state. Just unplug from everything and bask in pure pleasure. Why even doing "natural things" when I can do heroin lel, cheaper and better than anything else ive found.
Oh and id like to see you "just cope" with being the victim of child sex abuse (no this didnt happen to me)
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I assume you're talking to me. Plenty of people do cope with being victims of trauma without opiates. If people are so traumatized that they're incapable of coping I think opiates are only going to hurt them, self-medicating with anything in that context basically equates to self-destruction.
The people who think that they're better off than these folks so they'll be less likely to get addicted, or that their lives are so boring they could do with the challenge of addiction are deluding themselves. Sadly nobody is going to care about you turning yourself into a tragic character, except the people who already care about you, and it is a shitty thing to do to them.
If you can't see the value in getting pleasure through tangible accomplishments I can see how you would get into opiates. You probably used to prefer other drugs until you found that they caused too much stress and tension, which can be unpleasant, but this is what allows those drugs to be less addictive. Something like weed or psychedelics is self-regulating for most people, because after a while they just get bored or find that it isn't the same as when they started.
That happens with opiates too, but at that point you're usually physically dependent which is one of the most unpleasant burdens a person can put on themselves, especially in a culture that criminalizes addicts. That might be bullshit, but that's the world we live in.
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moonrockmushy said: But alot of people don't seem to realize that by taking opiates to have a good time, you are training your brain to find healthy activities less rewarding in favor of opiates. It might take some longer than others, but it's inevitable, and nobody usually is aware when they have crossed that line. It might take 10 pills, might take 1000, but every opiate you take is changing the way you think.
When you do something physically or mentally demanding your body releases natural endorphin. These are what allow you to have a good time at things that are strenuous and difficult. By ingesting these endorphins (opiates closely resemble natural endorphins) without actually doing anything to deserve them, you're training yourself to enjoy opiates over constructive things. Every little bit is making you more miserable without them, and if you're not on track and happy with your life, which I know alot of people here aren't, I can promise you're making things way more difficult than they need to be. Mushrooms or weed might make you anxious, but the answer to that isn't to take downers, it is to reduce your intake and do healthy things that relax you naturally.
If you are on track and happy with your life, I can promise you don't need opiates to have fun. I know everyone here is convinced that you only do it to add a little extra fun where fun is lacking, but that is where it gets you.
Now what I just underlined from your reply makes a lot of sense. I never though about it like that. Thank you very much for this reply.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: Bigfeely123]
#22253932 - 09/17/15 10:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah the worse part is that knowing that doesn't always help, it takes real work. It will teach you alot of things about yourself, but it's one of those things where ignorance is bliss I think.
It's actually not that fun. It's just the illusion of fun, which is why it's so dangerous. Opiates teach you not to cope, and allow you to enjoy things you normally wouldn't. If you can't make the right choice when you do have a decent life with things you enjoy free from opiates, there's no reason to believe you'll make the right choice when you find that opiates are more appealing than all the things you used to enjoy.
It does happen too. People think I'm bitter because I fucked up and got hooked, but in the end of all the people I know who loved opiates I am in the lucky bunch. That's the thing people don't realize. I'm a spiteful bitch, but I'm getting by, got no diseases, and most importantly I'm still alive and close to the people that care for me. Not everyone realizes what is really important in time, which is quite sad to me really. I knew good suburban hippie kids who got found by their parents dead in the bathroom and walked into traffic because they were so strung out and miserable.
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moonrockmushy said: Yeah the worse part is that knowing that doesn't always help, it takes real work. It will teach you alot of things about yourself, but it's one of those things where ignorance is bliss I think.
It's actually not that fun. It's just the illusion of fun, which is why it's so dangerous. Opiates teach you not to cope, and allow you to enjoy things you normally wouldn't. If you can't make the right choice when you do have a decent life with things you enjoy free from opiates, there's no reason to believe you'll make the right choice when you find that opiates are more appealing than all the things you used to enjoy.
It does happen too. People think I'm bitter because I fucked up and got hooked, but in the end of all the people I know who loved opiates I am in the lucky bunch. That's the thing people don't realize. I'm a spiteful bitch, but I'm getting by, got no diseases, and most importantly I'm still alive and close to the people that care for me. Not everyone realizes what is really important in time, which is quite sad to me really. I knew good suburban hippie kids who got found by their parents dead in the bathroom and walked into traffic because they were so strung out and miserable.
You live your horribly boring, party pooper lifestyle. LIVE!!!! LIVE!!!!!!!!! LIVE BORING!
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: kakashi68]
#22253963 - 09/17/15 11:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm never bored that's one problem I don't have. When I was on opiates I was bored all the time, and even more irritable if you can believe that.
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I don't know who the junkies lowlife you hang out with are. But out of all my friends who've done opiates none have nodded out. It's hard to nod out when your cleaning your entire house Everytime you do them. Oxy sped me up more then it brought me down that's why I liked it and never really liked h or any other. It made most of my friends more productive and more outgoing and a few of them got motivation to get jobs while taking it which they would never have if they just smoked weed like they usually did. Weed is a shit drug that turns nearly everyone into lazy ass people who do nothing but smoke all day. Want to be annoyed? talk to someone who is high. Usually they can't comprehend nobody wants them around. Weed makes people losers in my experience which is 100 percent true. So therefore ever one who smokes weed is a pos lazy ads loser with no friends.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: DTCharlieB]
#22254790 - 09/18/15 07:13 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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ok buddy. So I take it you're like Bitter Cactus only with opiates instead of speed?
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: DTCharlieB] 1
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DTCharlieB said: I don't know who the junkies lowlife you hang out with are. But out of all my friends who've done opiates none have nodded out. It's hard to nod out when your cleaning your entire house Everytime you do them. Oxy sped me up more then it brought me down that's why I liked it and never really liked h or any other. It made most of my friends more productive and more outgoing and a few of them got motivation to get jobs while taking it which they would never have if they just smoked weed like they usually did. Weed is a shit drug that turns nearly everyone into lazy ass people who do nothing but smoke all day. Want to be annoyed? talk to someone who is high. Usually they can't comprehend nobody wants them around. Weed makes people losers in my experience which is 100 percent true. So therefore ever one who smokes weed is a pos lazy ads loser with no friends.
I have lots of friends. We all smoke weed and have a good time. All of them have their priorities in line and work hard when they need to. You sound like a butthurt faggot.
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DTCharlieB said: I don't know who the junkies lowlife you hang out with are. But out of all my friends who've done opiates none have nodded out. It's hard to nod out when your cleaning your entire house Everytime you do them. Oxy sped me up more then it brought me down that's why I liked it and never really liked h or any other. It made most of my friends more productive and more outgoing and a few of them got motivation to get jobs while taking it which they would never have if they just smoked weed like they usually did. Weed is a shit drug that turns nearly everyone into lazy ass people who do nothing but smoke all day. Want to be annoyed? talk to someone who is high. Usually they can't comprehend nobody wants them around. Weed makes people losers in my experience which is 100 percent true. So therefore ever one who smokes weed is a pos lazy ads loser with no friends.
I have lots of friends. We all smoke weed and have a good time. All of them have their priorities in line and work hard when they need to. You sound like a butthurt faggot.
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DTCharlieB said: I don't know who the junkies lowlife you hang out with are. But out of all my friends who've done opiates none have nodded out. It's hard to nod out when your cleaning your entire house Everytime you do them. Oxy sped me up more then it brought me down that's why I liked it and never really liked h or any other. It made most of my friends more productive and more outgoing and a few of them got motivation to get jobs while taking it which they would never have if they just smoked weed like they usually did. Weed is a shit drug that turns nearly everyone into lazy ass people who do nothing but smoke all day. Want to be annoyed? talk to someone who is high. Usually they can't comprehend nobody wants them around. Weed makes people losers in my experience which is 100 percent true. So therefore ever one who smokes weed is a pos lazy ads loser with no friends.
I have lots of friends. We all smoke weed and have a good time. All of them have their priorities in line and work hard when they need to. You sound like a butthurt faggot.
I was being facetious dum dum. I was making fun of the douche bags that go around playing forum dad and tell everyone how if you do opiates one time your pretty much guaranteed to become a junkie. Read between the lines man.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: DTCharlieB]
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: DTCharlieB] 1
#22259931 - 09/19/15 12:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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And apparently I got my points across because people get their panties all bunched up there ass hole when it comes to someone bashing a different drug. If you do any drugs you shouldn't bash any drug. People who take opiates aren't hurting you so people need to mind their own business It's fine if you come on here and warn someone about the dangers of it once. Which everyone is well aware of anyways. But to do it over and over I just annoying and makes you look like a tool.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: DTCharlieB]
#22259939 - 09/19/15 12:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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just posting here to help appreciate opiates
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ok buddy. So I take it you're like Bitter Cactus only with opiates instead of speed?
Opiates are for depressed people that are not comfortable in their own skin.
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ok buddy. So I take it you're like Bitter Cactus only with opiates instead of speed?
Opiates are for depressed people that are not comfortable in their own skin.
So if someone who wasn't depressed and was very comfortable in their own skin took opiates they wouldn't like it?
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: DTCharlieB]
#22260043 - 09/19/15 12:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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When the soldiers from US came back from vietnman or some other country I believe and were addicted to heroin they came back and got clean.
Probs cause they were happy with themselves and their lives and didn't need that shit.
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Ok i see. I mean that could be possible. But it seems like there's much more too it. But ya I believe if your intelligent and got a good head shoulders and don't have any past traumatic experiences your alot less likely to become and addict.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: DTCharlieB]
#22260086 - 09/19/15 12:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Being an addict means you are not happy with something in your life and it is big enough of a deal for you to need to mask it.
People with good lives and happy with themselves get opiate scripts for getting hit by a bus and when it runs out are not fiending for more. They might fiend however if they are badly physically hooked.
I know what causes addiction.
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DTCharlieB said: Ok i see. I mean that could be possible. But it seems like there's much more too it. But ya I believe if your intelligent and got a good head shoulders and don't have any past traumatic experiences your alot less likely to become and addict.
Eh, I don't get addicted to anything but alcohol.
I used to do Vicodin all the time too, 'cause my roommate was an addict.
Never had a problem with it.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: micro]
#22260104 - 09/19/15 12:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I also want to add that opiates are a godsend medically. Many people would be in excruciating pain every day had they not been discovered.
They're a great class of drug if you don't rely on them to feel good mentally, if you do they are a horrible curse. I'm glad some of yall pointed out the dangers of the addiction but you can't say they don't have their place
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: ModestMouse]
#22260124 - 09/19/15 12:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bitter Cactus said: Being an addict means you are not happy with something in your life and it is big enough of a deal for you to need to mask it.
People with good lives and happy with themselves get opiate scripts for getting hit by a bus and when it runs out are not fiending for more. They might fiend however if they are badly physically hooked.
I know what causes addiction.
Eh not so sure you do.
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Bitter Cactus said: Being an addict means you are not happy with something in your life and it is big enough of a deal for you to need to mask it.
People with good lives and happy with themselves get opiate scripts for getting hit by a bus and when it runs out are not fiending for more. They might fiend however if they are badly phy sically hooked.
I know what causes addiction.
So withdrawls aren't a thing if you're happy?
Good to know. Next time, I'll just smile away the cold sweats.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: DTCharlieB]
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DTCharlieB said: I don't know who the junkies lowlife you hang out with are. But out of all my friends who've done opiates none have nodded out. It's hard to nod out when your cleaning your entire house Everytime you do them. Oxy sped me up more then it brought me down that's why I liked it and never really liked h or any other. It made most of my friends more productive and more outgoing and a few of them got motivation to get jobs while taking it which they would never have if they just smoked weed like they usually did. Weed is a shit drug that turns nearly everyone into lazy ass people who do nothing but smoke all day. Want to be annoyed? talk to someone who is high. Usually they can't comprehend nobody wants them around. Weed makes people losers in my experience which is 100 percent true. So therefore ever one who smokes weed is a pos lazy ads loser with no friends.
I have lots of friends. We all smoke weed and have a good time. All of them have their priorities in line and work hard when they need to. You sound like a butthurt faggot.
I was being facetious dum dum. I was making fun of the douche bags that go around playing forum dad and tell everyone how if you do opiates one time your pretty much guaranteed to become a junkie. Read between the lines man.
Hey could you do me a favor and quote the person who said that bolded part? I must have missed it.
It's ok for you guys to just say, "I like opiates, I didn't have any problems with them, I like them, they're fucking awesome, I love opiates, you're just a junkie I don't have a problem with opiates do you love opiates, I love opiates"? That's not repetitive to you because you're in love with opiates, and in complete denial that this could ever pose a problem for you.
Seriously, what interesting conversation has occurred in this thread?
You're the one telling people what they can and can't say, I am just telling people the reality of the situation. Gimme a fuckin' break.
For the record I am the one bunching up panties in this thread. You're not even making sense. You want to have a thread to appreciate opiates where people who doubt that can only say it once, and then leave? Why don't you just mention that you like opiates once and leave? It's not like that's super enlightening conversation.
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DTCharlieB said: I don't know who the junkies lowlife you hang out with are. But out of all my friends who've done opiates none have nodded out. It's hard to nod out when your cleaning your entire house Everytime you do them. Oxy sped me up more then it brought me down that's why I liked it and never really liked h or any other. It made most of my friends more productive and more outgoing and a few of them got motivation to get jobs while taking it which they would never have if they just smoked weed like they usually did. Weed is a shit drug that turns nearly everyone into lazy ass people who do nothing but smoke all day. Want to be annoyed? talk to someone who is high. Usually they can't comprehend nobody wants them around. Weed makes people losers in my experience which is 100 percent true. So therefore ever one who smokes weed is a pos lazy ads loser with no friends.
I have lots of friends. We all smoke weed and have a good time. All of them have their priorities in line and work hard when they need to. You sound like a butthurt faggot.
I was being facetious dum dum. I was making fun of the douche bags that go around playing forum dad and tell everyone how if you do opiates one time your pretty much guaranteed to become a junkie. Read between the lines man.
Hey could you do me a favor and quote the person who said that bolded part? I must have missed it.
It's ok for you guys to just say, "I like opiates, I didn't have any problems with them, I like them, they're fucking awesome, I love opiates, you're just a junkie I don't have a problem with opiates do you love opiates, I love opiates"? That's not repetitive to you because you're in love with opiates, and in complete denial that this could ever pose a problem for you.
Seriously, what interesting conversation has occurred in this thread?
You're the one telling people what they can and can't say, I am just telling people the reality of the situation. Gimme a fuckin' break.
For the record I am the one bunching up panties in this thread. You're not even making sense. You want to have a thread to appreciate opiates where people who doubt that can only say it once, and then leave? Why don't you just mention that you like opiates once and leave? It's not like that's super enlightening conversation.
wow... please just fuck off cunt... We all understand you hate opiates. But this thread is about APPRECIATION. How long are you going to keep repeating yourself to people who dont listen to you dribble. Your just being rude... I dont barge into mushroom threads yelling crap because I dont like them. No I accept that and let them have their discussion without being a twatty cunt.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: kakashi68]
#22263608 - 09/20/15 06:37 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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DTCharlieB said: I don't know who the junkies lowlife you hang out with are. But out of all my friends who've done opiates none have nodded out. It's hard to nod out when your cleaning your entire house Everytime you do them. Oxy sped me up more then it brought me down that's why I liked it and never really liked h or any other. It made most of my friends more productive and more outgoing and a few of them got motivation to get jobs while taking it which they would never have if they just smoked weed like they usually did. Weed is a shit drug that turns nearly everyone into lazy ass people who do nothing but smoke all day. Want to be annoyed? talk to someone who is high. Usually they can't comprehend nobody wants them around. Weed makes people losers in my experience which is 100 percent true. So therefore ever one who smokes weed is a pos lazy ads loser with no friends.
I have lots of friends. We all smoke weed and have a good time. All of them have their priorities in line and work hard when they need to. You sound like a butthurt faggot.
I was being facetious dum dum. I was making fun of the douche bags that go around playing forum dad and tell everyone how if you do opiates one time your pretty much guaranteed to become a junkie. Read between the lines man.
You don't really 'get' to call me stupid. Why? Because several times have I seen this exact situation where you need to explain that you weren't serious. If that is an recurring problem then that is your failure.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: kakashi68] 2
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wow... please just fuck off cunt... We all understand you hate opiates. But this thread is about APPRECIATION. How long are you going to keep repeating yourself to people who dont listen to you dribble. Your just being rude... I dont barge into mushroom threads yelling crap because I dont like them. No I accept that and let them have their discussion without being a twatty cunt.
Hey, the thread has a question mark. My answer is no.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: Apostle]
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Apostle said: Opiates are like my favorite ex gf
Kratom is like the whore i fuck while im thinking of her.
most accurate analogy I've read in my entire life
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: Tybg]
#22264610 - 09/20/15 12:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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And on the topic of opiates, I broke my hand and 2 fingers punching a sign while I was drunk, and got prescribed 2 bottles of Norcos, one with 14 pills, the other with 60
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