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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: kakashi68]
    #22253454 - 09/17/15 09:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I assume you're talking to me.  Plenty of people do cope with being victims of trauma without opiates.  If people are so traumatized that they're incapable of coping I think opiates are only going to hurt them, self-medicating with anything in that context basically equates to self-destruction.

The people who think that they're better off than these folks so they'll be less likely to get addicted, or that their lives are so boring they could do with the challenge of addiction are deluding themselves.  Sadly nobody is going to care about you turning yourself into a tragic character, except the people who already care about you, and it is a shitty thing to do to them.

If you can't see the value in getting pleasure through tangible accomplishments I can see how you would get into opiates.  You probably used to prefer other drugs until you found that they caused too much stress and tension, which can be unpleasant, but this is what allows those drugs to be less addictive.  Something like weed or psychedelics is self-regulating for most people, because after a while they just get bored or find that it isn't the same as when they started. 

That happens with opiates too, but at that point you're usually physically dependent which is one of the most unpleasant burdens a person can put on themselves, especially in a culture that criminalizes addicts.  That might be bullshit, but that's the world we live in.


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #22253800 - 09/17/15 10:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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But alot of people don't seem to realize that by taking opiates to have a good time, you are training your brain to find healthy activities less rewarding in favor of opiates.  It might take some longer than others, but it's inevitable, and nobody usually is aware when they have crossed that line.  It might take 10 pills, might take 1000, but every opiate you take is changing the way you think.

When you do something physically or mentally demanding your body releases natural endorphin.  These are what allow you to have a good time at things that are strenuous and difficult.  By ingesting these endorphins (opiates closely resemble natural endorphins) without actually doing anything to deserve them, you're training yourself to enjoy opiates over constructive things.  Every little bit is making you more miserable without them, and if you're not on track and happy with your life, which I know alot of people here aren't, I can promise you're making things way more difficult than they need to be.  Mushrooms or weed might make you anxious, but the answer to that isn't to take downers, it is to reduce your intake and do healthy things that relax you naturally.

If you are on track and happy with your life, I can promise you don't need opiates to have fun.  I know everyone here is convinced that you only do it to add a little extra fun where fun is lacking, but that is where it gets you.




Now what I just underlined from your reply makes a lot of sense. I never though about it like that. Thank you very much for this reply.


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #22253932 - 09/17/15 10:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah the worse part is that knowing that doesn't always help, it takes real work.  It will teach you alot of things about yourself, but it's one of those things where ignorance is bliss I think.

It's actually not that fun.  It's just the illusion of fun, which is why it's so dangerous.  Opiates teach you not to cope, and allow you to enjoy things you normally wouldn't.  If you can't make the right choice when you do have a decent life with things you enjoy free from opiates, there's no reason to believe you'll make the right choice when you find that opiates are more appealing than all the things you used to enjoy.

It does happen too.  People think I'm bitter because I fucked up and got hooked, but in the end of all the people I know who loved opiates I am in the lucky bunch.  That's the thing people don't realize.  I'm a spiteful bitch, but I'm getting by, got no diseases, and most importantly I'm still alive and close to the people that care for me.  Not everyone realizes what is really important in time, which is quite sad to me really.  I knew good suburban hippie kids who got found by their parents dead in the bathroom and walked into traffic because they were so strung out and miserable.


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #22253943 - 09/17/15 11:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Yeah the worse part is that knowing that doesn't always help, it takes real work.  It will teach you alot of things about yourself, but it's one of those things where ignorance is bliss I think.

It's actually not that fun.  It's just the illusion of fun, which is why it's so dangerous.  Opiates teach you not to cope, and allow you to enjoy things you normally wouldn't.  If you can't make the right choice when you do have a decent life with things you enjoy free from opiates, there's no reason to believe you'll make the right choice when you find that opiates are more appealing than all the things you used to enjoy.

It does happen too.  People think I'm bitter because I fucked up and got hooked, but in the end of all the people I know who loved opiates I am in the lucky bunch.  That's the thing people don't realize.  I'm a spiteful bitch, but I'm getting by, got no diseases, and most importantly I'm still alive and close to the people that care for me.  Not everyone realizes what is really important in time, which is quite sad to me really.  I knew good suburban hippie kids who got found by their parents dead in the bathroom and walked into traffic because they were so strung out and miserable.




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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: kakashi68]
    #22253963 - 09/17/15 11:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I'm never bored :shrug: that's one problem I don't have.  When I was on opiates I was bored all the time, and even more irritable if you can believe that.


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #22254728 - 09/18/15 06:50 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I don't know who the junkies lowlife you hang out with are. But out of all my friends who've done opiates none have nodded out.  It's hard to nod out when your cleaning your entire house Everytime you do them.  Oxy sped me up more then it brought me down that's why I liked it and never really liked h or any other.  It made most of my friends more productive and more outgoing and a few of them got motivation to get jobs while taking it which they would never have if they just smoked weed like they usually did.  Weed is a shit drug that turns nearly everyone into lazy ass people who do nothing but smoke all day.  Want to be annoyed? talk to someone who is high.  Usually they can't comprehend nobody wants them around.  Weed makes people losers in my experience which is 100 percent true.  So therefore ever one who smokes weed is a pos lazy ads loser with no friends.


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: DTCharlieB]
    #22254790 - 09/18/15 07:13 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:yeahthatsfunny: ok buddy.  So I take it you're like Bitter Cactus only with opiates instead of speed?


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #22259102 - 09/19/15 06:30 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: DTCharlieB] * 1
    #22259116 - 09/19/15 06:37 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I don't know who the junkies lowlife you hang out with are. But out of all my friends who've done opiates none have nodded out.  It's hard to nod out when your cleaning your entire house Everytime you do them.  Oxy sped me up more then it brought me down that's why I liked it and never really liked h or any other.  It made most of my friends more productive and more outgoing and a few of them got motivation to get jobs while taking it which they would never have if they just smoked weed like they usually did.  Weed is a shit drug that turns nearly everyone into lazy ass people who do nothing but smoke all day.  Want to be annoyed? talk to someone who is high.  Usually they can't comprehend nobody wants them around.  Weed makes people losers in my experience which is 100 percent true.  So therefore ever one who smokes weed is a pos lazy ads loser with no friends.



I have lots of friends. We all smoke weed and have a good time. All of them have their priorities in line and work hard when they need to. You sound like a butthurt faggot.


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: larry.fisherman] * 2
    #22259603 - 09/19/15 10:22 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I don't know who the junkies lowlife you hang out with are. But out of all my friends who've done opiates none have nodded out.  It's hard to nod out when your cleaning your entire house Everytime you do them.  Oxy sped me up more then it brought me down that's why I liked it and never really liked h or any other.  It made most of my friends more productive and more outgoing and a few of them got motivation to get jobs while taking it which they would never have if they just smoked weed like they usually did.  Weed is a shit drug that turns nearly everyone into lazy ass people who do nothing but smoke all day.  Want to be annoyed? talk to someone who is high.  Usually they can't comprehend nobody wants them around.  Weed makes people losers in my experience which is 100 percent true.  So therefore ever one who smokes weed is a pos lazy ads loser with no friends.



I have lots of friends. We all smoke weed and have a good time. All of them have their priorities in line and work hard when they need to. You sound like a butthurt faggot.




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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #22259910 - 09/19/15 11:58 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I don't know who the junkies lowlife you hang out with are. But out of all my friends who've done opiates none have nodded out.  It's hard to nod out when your cleaning your entire house Everytime you do them.  Oxy sped me up more then it brought me down that's why I liked it and never really liked h or any other.  It made most of my friends more productive and more outgoing and a few of them got motivation to get jobs while taking it which they would never have if they just smoked weed like they usually did.  Weed is a shit drug that turns nearly everyone into lazy ass people who do nothing but smoke all day.  Want to be annoyed? talk to someone who is high.  Usually they can't comprehend nobody wants them around.  Weed makes people losers in my experience which is 100 percent true.  So therefore ever one who smokes weed is a pos lazy ads loser with no friends.



I have lots of friends. We all smoke weed and have a good time. All of them have their priorities in line and work hard when they need to. You sound like a butthurt faggot.




I was being facetious dum dum.  I was making fun of the douche bags that go around playing forum dad and tell everyone how if you do opiates one time your pretty much guaranteed to become a junkie.  Read between the lines man.


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: DTCharlieB]
    #22259926 - 09/19/15 12:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: DTCharlieB] * 1
    #22259931 - 09/19/15 12:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

And apparently I got my points across because people get their panties all bunched up there ass hole when it comes to someone bashing a different drug.  If you do any drugs you shouldn't bash any drug.  People who take opiates aren't hurting you so people need to mind their own business
It's fine if you come on here and warn someone about the dangers of it once. Which everyone is well aware of anyways.  But to do it over and over I just annoying and makes you look like a tool.


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: DTCharlieB]
    #22259939 - 09/19/15 12:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

just posting here to help appreciate opiates


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #22260004 - 09/19/15 12:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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:yeahthatsfunny: ok buddy.  So I take it you're like Bitter Cactus only with opiates instead of speed?




Opiates are for depressed people that are not comfortable in their own skin.


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22260033 - 09/19/15 12:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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:yeahthatsfunny: ok buddy.  So I take it you're like Bitter Cactus only with opiates instead of speed?




Opiates are for depressed people that are not comfortable in their own skin.




So if someone who wasn't depressed and was very comfortable in their own skin took opiates they wouldn't like it?


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: DTCharlieB]
    #22260043 - 09/19/15 12:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

When the soldiers from US came back from vietnman or some other country I believe and were addicted to heroin they came back and got clean.

Probs cause they were happy with themselves and their lives and didn't need that shit.


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22260076 - 09/19/15 12:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Ok i see. I mean that could be possible.  But it seems like there's much more too it.  But ya I believe if your intelligent  and got a good head shoulders and don't have any past traumatic experiences your alot less likely to become and addict.


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: DTCharlieB]
    #22260086 - 09/19/15 12:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Being an addict means you are not happy with something in your life and it is big enough of a deal for you to need to mask it.

People with good lives and happy with themselves get opiate scripts for getting hit by a bus and when it runs out are not fiending for more. They might fiend however if they are badly physically hooked.


I know what causes addiction.


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22260087 - 09/19/15 12:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Opiates are for depressed people that are not comfortable in their own skin.






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Ok i see. I mean that could be possible.  But it seems like there's much more too it.  But ya I believe if your intelligent  and got a good head shoulders and don't have any past traumatic experiences your alot less likely to become and addict.




Eh, I don't get addicted to anything but alcohol.

I used to do Vicodin all the time too, 'cause my roommate was an addict.

Never had a problem with it.


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