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Offlinekakashi68
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #22249600 - 09/17/15 05:31 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm guessing that was down to the relative dosage.  Codiene has some natural limitations since it causes alot of side effects from histamines and even can cause seizures if the dose is too high, but morphine is the classic "full spectrum" opiate, and heroin is the same exact thing as morphine only it is much quicker at getting into the brain.  An acetylized morphine molecule (heroin) can pass freely through the blood brain barrier, but then it is immediately metabolized into morphine after that.

Hydrocodone, oxycodone, and fentanyl are known to have a more selective action in what receptors they hit.  Some people like this because they get less side effects, but in terms of getting high opiates are opioids that happen to be found in opium.  They're all more or less the same.  That's why people who think sticking to pharm drugs is a good way not to get addicted are really kidding themselves, as are people who think that "natural" opiates are superior.

I mean you could synthesize morphine, it would still be morphine.




you cant synth morphine. Hence why the world is still dependent on the poppy plant.

Plz stfu and stay out of the opiate APPRECIATION thread. We all know you hate opiates. plz take your bitching elsewhere. You have done nothing and have turned 0 people off opiates. so go away.


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: kakashi68]
    #22249690 - 09/17/15 06:30 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Don't buy drugs kids, become a rock star and get them for FREE!! :rockon:


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: kakashi68]
    #22249708 - 09/17/15 06:41 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm guessing that was down to the relative dosage.  Codiene has some natural limitations since it causes alot of side effects from histamines and even can cause seizures if the dose is too high, but morphine is the classic "full spectrum" opiate, and heroin is the same exact thing as morphine only it is much quicker at getting into the brain.  An acetylized morphine molecule (heroin) can pass freely through the blood brain barrier, but then it is immediately metabolized into morphine after that.

Hydrocodone, oxycodone, and fentanyl are known to have a more selective action in what receptors they hit.  Some people like this because they get less side effects, but in terms of getting high opiates are opioids that happen to be found in opium.  They're all more or less the same.  That's why people who think sticking to pharm drugs is a good way not to get addicted are really kidding themselves, as are people who think that "natural" opiates are superior.

I mean you could synthesize morphine, it would still be morphine.




you cant synth morphine. Hence why the world is still dependent on the poppy plant.

Plz stfu and stay out of the opiate APPRECIATION thread. We all know you hate opiates. plz take your bitching elsewhere. You have done nothing and have turned 0 people off opiates. so go away.




You CAN synth morphine without poppies.


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: kakashi68]
    #22250428 - 09/17/15 10:25 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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moonrockmushy said:
I'm guessing that was down to the relative dosage.  Codiene has some natural limitations since it causes alot of side effects from histamines and even can cause seizures if the dose is too high, but morphine is the classic "full spectrum" opiate, and heroin is the same exact thing as morphine only it is much quicker at getting into the brain.  An acetylized morphine molecule (heroin) can pass freely through the blood brain barrier, but then it is immediately metabolized into morphine after that.

Hydrocodone, oxycodone, and fentanyl are known to have a more selective action in what receptors they hit.  Some people like this because they get less side effects, but in terms of getting high opiates are opioids that happen to be found in opium.  They're all more or less the same.  That's why people who think sticking to pharm drugs is a good way not to get addicted are really kidding themselves, as are people who think that "natural" opiates are superior.

I mean you could synthesize morphine, it would still be morphine.




you cant synth morphine. Hence why the world is still dependent on the poppy plant.

Plz stfu and stay out of the opiate APPRECIATION thread. We all know you hate opiates. plz take your bitching elsewhere. You have done nothing and have turned 0 people off opiates. so go away.





Opiates are for pussays who can't handle normal human emotions.  I feel bad for people who are also so dumb that they will probably never realize that.

This shit is a fucking blast, who could not like this sheet?@?@!!?



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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #22252715 - 09/17/15 06:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

One time in junior high school I found a prescription bottle filled with oxycodone. If I remember correctly it was approximately 30 or 40 5mg tablets. My typical dose was around 10-15 mg, but sometimes higher & sometimes lower. They were okay... nothing special. I didn't really care for stuff like that though... nor do I now. I'm a weed & psychedelics kind of person. Do I think everyone who tries them gets addicted to opiates? No. I didn't get addicted. I made those 30 or 40 tablets last me over 6 months. Just like how in more recent times I received 30 or 35 10mg amphetamines salts XR & I've had them for about 3 months now. Last time I took any was about 3 weeks or a month ago. I'm definitely not addicted.  :lol:

"No way man! You're a fucking junkie scumbag!"  :shakefist:


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #22252858 - 09/17/15 07:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I know very few people who like to nod out on opiates.  I know some do but most people that I knew that took them took them to have a good time, party, or get some extra energy and clean their house or some crap.  I hate nodding. I don't want to just fall asleep and waste a buzz.  I wanna get down, get dirty, get real deep into some fur and just go to town and paint that shit red.  Maybe drink a juice box afterwards.


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: DTCharlieB] * 1
    #22253122 - 09/17/15 08:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

But alot of people don't seem to realize that by taking opiates to have a good time, you are training your brain to find healthy activities less rewarding in favor of opiates.  It might take some longer than others, but it's inevitable, and nobody usually is aware when they have crossed that line.  It might take 10 pills, might take 1000, but every opiate you take is changing the way you think.

When you do something physically or mentally demanding your body releases natural endorphin.  These are what allow you to have a good time at things that are strenuous and difficult.  By ingesting these endorphins (opiates closely resemble natural endorphins) without actually doing anything to deserve them, you're training yourself to enjoy opiates over constructive things.  Every little bit is making you more miserable without them, and if you're not on track and happy with your life, which I know alot of people here aren't, I can promise you're making things way more difficult than they need to be.  Mushrooms or weed might make you anxious, but the answer to that isn't to take downers, it is to reduce your intake and do healthy things that relax you naturally.

If you are on track and happy with your life, I can promise you don't need opiates to have fun.  I know everyone here is convinced that you only do it to add a little extra fun where fun is lacking, but that is where it gets you.


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #22253207 - 09/17/15 08:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

best opiate experience:

dose
turn off lights
lay in bed
listen to this album with headphones:

http://celer.bandcamp.com/album/discourses-of-the-withered


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: resonant111] * 1
    #22253222 - 09/17/15 08:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Opiates don't hold a candle to any psych or XTC


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: MinnesnowtaNice]
    #22253229 - 09/17/15 08:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

opiates good for numbing the pain every once in a while.
in that sense, i'm glad they exist.


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: resonant111]
    #22253237 - 09/17/15 08:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So is hypnosis lol opium is a disgusting, cruel bitch.


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: MinnesnowtaNice]
    #22253260 - 09/17/15 08:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

nah man you just gotta do em' on rare occasions.
i only fuck with em once in a blue moon.
they treat me kindly


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: resonant111]
    #22253270 - 09/17/15 08:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The abuse potential for those with addictive personality dis just to high for me to get on board with it.
Plus I hate being around people nodding on h or strung out on oxy.

Oh your going to pass out in your own vomit, your real fun to hang out with.


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: MinnesnowtaNice]
    #22253287 - 09/17/15 08:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

well people also take doses that are wayyyyy too fucking high.
my approach is to do the bare minimum to get a buzz.

it's actually better that way anyways cuz you feel fucking amazing and no negative side effects.
the people that eat shit tons of pills and pass out in their barf are morons.


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: resonant111]
    #22253295 - 09/17/15 08:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I don't care what anyone does with their own bodies haha
Opiates just ain't my jam


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: MinnesnowtaNice]
    #22253318 - 09/17/15 08:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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The abuse potential for those with addictive personality dis just to high for me to get on board with it.
Plus I hate being around people nodding on h or strung out on oxy.

Oh your going to pass out in your own vomit, your real fun to hang out with.




I think I could tolerate it a little better if they didn't all deny it when they nod off, pretty much without fail.  All these people saying they just take a little bit for whatever slight benefit are probably actually nodding if my experience is correct.  They're all like old men, "oh I was just resting my eyes" then you're like, "so what did I just say then?" and they usually get angrily defensive then fall asleep in your face again in another minute or two tops only to repeat the whole cycle over again :shakefist:


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: MinnesnowtaNice] * 1
    #22253322 - 09/17/15 08:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

i actually think under-dosing with pretty much any drug is underrated.
alot of people act like massive fucking doses are the only way to do a substance.
to me that makes no sense.

less is more when it comes to drugs, especially opiates.


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: resonant111]
    #22253350 - 09/17/15 08:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I personally don't like nodding out unless I'm honestly trying to sleep. Even then there's probably half a dozen things that would more comfortably put me out.


But I'm also an occasional user and not an addict :ohwell:


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #22253358 - 09/17/15 08:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Also low dose kratom is the cheese  :neepling:


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #22253412 - 09/17/15 09:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

still sometimes doing proper nods is fun. Recently I was watching a stand up special. Though I only probs saw 1/4 of it, rest being in semi conscious nod state. Just unplug from everything and bask in pure pleasure. Why even doing "natural things" when I can do heroin lel, cheaper and better than anything else ive found.

Oh and id like to see you "just cope" with being the victim of child sex abuse (no this didnt happen to me)


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