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moonrockmushy said: So it's really not that great? In terms of experience it's like any other drug? I don't see what is so exciting about that, and sounds like pretty lame reasoning considering what is at stake, but if that is what is important to you I'm sure that's what you'll do.
The fact that it's merely an altered state of consciousness makes it just like any drug. The opiate experience itself is outstanding. It's like being in loop of warm, bodily bliss for multiple hours, it's fucking great. i can see why people can get addicted to that. you just gotta be smart and make a firm resolve to be responsible about it.
"the difference between poison and medicine is in the dose" (and frequency of dose!)
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: twighead]
#22244057 - 09/16/15 12:06 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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twighead said: I would say, from the volume of bickering in this thread - that the most likely effect of opiates is to render one an insufferable git! 
100% true 
First you hate anyone who would get between you and your beloved opiates, then if you're lucky you get to a point you realize that they're a rotten bitch who wants to weaken you. Either way it involves alot of bitching, which is another reason why an opiate appreciation thread is ridiculous.
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Well yea, if you paint extremes like that you're gonna run into problems. This argument is running in circles at this point though.
Some people can handle opiates in moderation. Others apparently can't. Case closed.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: resonant111]
#22244110 - 09/16/15 12:22 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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But everyone thinks they can moderate at first you guys in this thread sound more like the latter to me. Finalword had.
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Dude i've been moderating for like, i don't even know...five years maybe? So obviously it's possible.
I don't expect to go on an opiate binge anytime soon lol.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: resonant111]
#22244189 - 09/16/15 01:03 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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moonrock plz just stfu. You complain and bitch about this in literally every opiate thread.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: kakashi68]
#22245290 - 09/16/15 10:47 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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i like em but i like beiing able to shit properly more
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: thelanzii]
#22245412 - 09/16/15 11:10 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think it's funny when someone who was weak enough to get addicted to something thinks that because it happened to them it will happen to everyone. And usually the addicted junkies run in groups so they see the behavior of others and think this happens to everyone. It's foolish to think everyone who touches an opiate is going to turn out to be a bum who steals whatever and from whomever to support their habit. Everyone is different some people can handle occasional use. Some can even handle doing it 4 or 5 times a week and then just stop. When needles get involved it seems like it turns into a different story though. But most don't get that far.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: DTCharlieB]
#22245452 - 09/16/15 11:16 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I been chipping for two years.
It took years of addiction to get to this point though.
i actually had a sixteen month bender and didnt withdraw. I think the body may actually adapt after going through so many kicks.
Who knows?
The high is anything but just "looking like youre trying to suck your own dick" though. For me at least it makes me social gives me energy and sooo much more.
Its like a stim a benzo and alcohol all in one. I love it.
Also five hour long sex marathons wouldnt be possible without it.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: DTCharlieB]
#22245495 - 09/16/15 11:27 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm with moonrock on this. These kind of threads at best give the recreational user reassurance that their occasional use is ok and at worst tempt the opiate naive. Using opiates at first is nice, maybe even life-enriching but in the long-term you will be burned one way or another. The odds are against you having a healthy relationship with opiates when used regularly
If you can do without them why risk it? If you can't do without them why tempt others?
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: olson]
#22245530 - 09/16/15 11:32 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Theres no way to hide the fact that theyre awesome.
Time and time again peoples attempts to disuade curious newcomers has failed.
I think campaiging against opiates is a wasted effort. 
Its kinda like sex back when people used to try n suppress those desires as well. People want to find out for themselves and they will.
The best you can do is warn of the dangers of addiction. No need to go all fire and brimstone.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: Apostle]
#22245584 - 09/16/15 11:44 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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its not so much campaigning against opiates its shunning people who praise them which i think is ok and maybe helps.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: olson]
#22245637 - 09/16/15 11:56 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's not the poppies fault some people have demon's PEACE
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: olson]
#22245642 - 09/16/15 11:56 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I can respect that. While i have doubts that it helps anything i believe in freedom of speech.
Im getting drunk right now. I always talk shit bout alcohol. Its actually really nice till the comedown. There is no comedown with opiates.
I wish my doc was legal.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: Apostle]
#22245709 - 09/16/15 12:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have a terrible love affair with being in a nodding state.
My favorite combo is combining lines of sass with dope. Talk about Max euphoria. All while smoking joint after joint. Such an amazing feel. Probably really bad for my heart tho....
Man i miss dope and think about it daily, but i left that life behind and im onto my new love of kratom.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: kakashi68]
#22246127 - 09/16/15 01:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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kakashi68 said: moonrock plz just stfu. You complain and bitch about this in literally every opiate thread.
Please learn to use the word literally in a way that would literally make sense 
I shit all over opiate threads because I find people that promote them for recreational use obnoxious, and I want to assure people who don't take them that they're making the right decision. Trying to act like you're not playing with fire because of "oh I have self control" comes off as arrogant and immature, so I think we're full of mutual resentment for each-other, and just having a good ol' time. You think the fault lies 100% with me because you are a smackhead in denial, and that's ok, but I'm going to tell you like it is.
Nobody wants to hear about other people's love affair with nodding. That's boring. If people want to know about the opiate experience go read some WSB or something, but unless you're someone who thinks that is edgy and if you take opiates maybe you'll be super edgy too, you probably won't be that inclined to take them yourself.
I find the more people like opiates, the more boring they become. I am not just doing this for you, I am doing this so I don't have to live in a world full of pussies who think that the way to treat their adolescent stress and anxiety is to take a drug intended for victims of serious tramua. That's just a bad idea, and you guys are encouraging it.
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it isnt intended for anything.
Morphine exists naturally.
We decide what its used for.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: Apostle]
#22246164 - 09/16/15 01:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ok, so in your opinion using opiates to treat adolescent angst totally valid, because it's natural 
People do this shit because they convince each-other it is cool, which it really isn't. Cool is being able to handle stress and anxiety like a man, not seeking out a false sense of security through drugs that put you at ease.
If you have a broken leg sticking out your skin, I encourage you to go take some opiates. If you have a hard time feeling good while you sit alone in your room listening to music, you're an addiction waiting to happen.
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kakashi68 said: moonrock plz just stfu. You complain and bitch about this in literally every opiate thread.
Please learn to use the word literally in a way that would literally make sense 
I shit all over opiate threads because I find people that promote them for recreational use obnoxious, and I want to assure people who don't take them that they're making the right decision. Trying to act like you're not playing with fire because of "oh I have self control" comes off as arrogant and immature, so I think we're full of mutual resentment for each-other, and just having a good ol' time. You think the fault lies 100% with me because you are a smackhead in denial, and that's ok, but I'm going to tell you like it is.
Nobody wants to hear about other people's love affair with nodding. That's boring. If people want to know about the opiate experience go read some WSB or something, but unless you're someone who thinks that is edgy and if you take opiates maybe you'll be super edgy too, you probably won't be that inclined to take them yourself.
I find the more people like opiates, the more boring they become. I am not just doing this for you, I am doing this so I don't have to live in a world full of pussies who think that the way to treat their adolescent stress and anxiety is to take a drug intended for victims of serious tramua. That's just a bad idea, and you guys are encouraging it.
as far as I know most people that take opiates experience serious trauma :/ Mental trauma is almost always worse than physical trauma. The amount of stories ive heard from junkies is sickening. The amount of child abuse, sexual, rape, violence, loneliness, rejection, pain is crazy. NO ONE turns and does heroin because "it sounds fun" People do it because of pain, that is all.
plz find me an opiate thread where you havent complained.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: kakashi68]
#22246654 - 09/16/15 03:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Opiates and opioids make me feel like total shit. Itching horribly terrible nausea? And the fact that they give absolutely zero physical or mental euphoria? I think not
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