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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #22243120 - 09/15/15 08:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

For someone who doesn't like them you've spent an awful lot of time talking about them in the thread. Hmm...

I still am blown away that you can't concede that some individuals use opiates infrequently for recreation and have a hell of a time doing it.


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: ModestMouse]
    #22243134 - 09/15/15 08:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

opiates are boring af imo. i mean i love oxy but things like codeine, kratom, etc just suck.

i love love LOVE LOVE uppers though


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: Alexestalex]
    #22243153 - 09/15/15 08:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

All drugs have their place. That's been my point throughout the thread, if you keep your head on your shoulders you can enjoy nearly any recreational drug safely.
I really can't pick a category of drug I like the best. If I could have an unlimited amount of any drug though it'd probably be nitrous. Shits unbelievably addicting to me.


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: ModestMouse]
    #22243162 - 09/15/15 08:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I really wanna try nitrous

I tried getting high off a can of whipped cream lol but it didn't work. Is there even enough nitrous in there to get me high?


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: Alexestalex]
    #22243204 - 09/15/15 08:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Don't fuck with whipped cream, waste of money. Go to a sex store and ask for it, they should have canisters.


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: ModestMouse]
    #22243216 - 09/15/15 08:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Why the f would a sex store carry nitrous?


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: Alexestalex]
    #22243220 - 09/15/15 08:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I have no answer, but they do :lol:


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: Alexestalex]
    #22243226 - 09/15/15 08:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Probably not in a can of whipped cream, it's hard to do without getting a mouthful of cream too :P

Only porn stores in America sell them, Australian ones don't.

A few small grocery store chains sell nitrous oxide (in Australia)
Smoking stores here don't sell any nitrous crackers so it's best to order one online or go to a kitchen store and buy a whipped cream dispenser.

Because they are rare and often not in stock it's far easier to order some nitrous online as well as a cracker.
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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: sudly]
    #22243279 - 09/15/15 08:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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For someone who doesn't like them you've spent an awful lot of time talking about them in the thread. Hmm...

I still am blown away that you can't concede that some individuals use opiates infrequently for recreation and have a hell of a time doing it.




Again, I didn't say that it is impossible, just highly unlikely.  They're a very boring drug for what you'll likely end up dealing with because of them.  That's just the truth.

What's your favorite part of the opiate experience?  Looking like you're sucking your own dick or feeling temporarily liberated from your stress and anxiety without actually having to do anything?


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #22243399 - 09/15/15 09:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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What's your favorite part of the opiate experience?  Looking like you're sucking your own dick or feeling temporarily liberated from your stress and anxiety without actually having to do anything?





I know you were asking other dude this question, but I felt like weighing in.

Heroin made me feel supreme, totally on top of my game, I was very sociable and not one of those J's that was always catching a nod and drooling on themselves.  Heroin always gave me TONS of energy, and that was great.


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: Lucis]
    #22243536 - 09/15/15 09:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah so was I, but when my life stagnated I started to get jealous of my friends who could seemingly get completely oblivious on half the amount, where I could just take more and more, and there is always that restlessness that drove me to take heroin in the first place.  It actually grows the more you take it, and the drug helps less and less.

By using heroin for those reasons, you're actively reprogramming your brain to depend on heroin as a coping mechanism.  It might feel good at first, but it never lasts and never ends well.

Just hanging out with people who fell asleep in the middle of sentences was some part of my motivation to quit :shakefist: like I said half of me would be jealous, but it's just so fucking obnoxious, especially considering they all deny it, just like everyone getting into opiates denies that they will ever get addicted.


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #22243565 - 09/15/15 09:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Best opiates I ever did were from the pods. Either vaping/smoking the opium or making tea from the pods. I've never been more fucked than I was on the pods. That said, i'm not big into opiates just for their addictive potential. Nowadays if my favorite thing is just a hydrocodone. Something mild to elevate the mood but nothing so good it leaves me wanting more.


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #22243643 - 09/15/15 10:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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i will always have self-control




:smirk: Yeah best of luck with that, really.  I think that is complete BS tho.  I don't see why someone with perfect self control would even need opiates.  If I didn't have problems controlling my emotions I think I would just be happy meditating and shit.




That's exactly what someone told me in the opiate thread a year or two ago. They guaranteed I would soon become addicted to pills and just lose self-control entirely because opiates are "so addictive."

Still do em' when I want (aka very rarely). Only do it once then wait a long time before even considering doing it again. All is well.
The opiate addiction scare talk kind of reminds me of the reformed alcoholics who talk down on people who drink just because they couldn't handle the drug. Sorry but some people can. :shrug:

(I'd also like to note that I have only done pills. Don't see any reason to fuck with anything beyond that, for good reason.)


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: resonant111]
    #22243663 - 09/15/15 10:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

opiates are so EVIL  :ohgodpleaseno:


do yourself a favor, and smoke some cigarettes and drink booze, like me.

its so much better than opiates. even though it kills exponentially more people.


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: Adolin]
    #22243757 - 09/15/15 10:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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That's exactly what someone told me in the opiate thread a year or two ago. They guaranteed I would soon become addicted to pills and just lose self-control entirely because opiates are "so addictive."




The opiate thread?  Again, cool story.  I used opiates for probably like 5 or 6 years before I even had a slight problem with them, but by the time I was well versed enough to know the difference between opiates and other pills, and which ones I liked and which ones I didn't there really wasn't any way to say I wasn't addicted in retrospect.

They are addictive, name something more physically addictive than opiates.  It's just retarded to say they're not, or that people make too big a deal of it.

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opiates are so EVIL  :ohgodpleaseno:


do yourself a favor, and smoke some cigarettes and drink booze, like me.

its so much better than opiates. even though it kills exponentially more people.




Do me a favor, and pull you head out of your ass.  They're not evil, kids who think they can control their use with opiates are morons.  That's all I'm saying.

I would say the same with alcohol and cigs, and people who are budding alkies and cig fiends would probably make a retarded statement like "cigarettes and alcohol are fucking awesome man".


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #22243805 - 09/15/15 10:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Do me a favor, and pull you head out of your ass.




No. the cognitive dissonance would be too much.

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I would say the same with alcohol and cigs, and people who are budding alkies and cig fiends would probably make a retarded statement like "cigarettes and alcohol are fucking awesome man".




as an 'alkie' and 'cig fiend', i can confirm that smoking/drinking does indeed feel "fucking awesome man".

it feels so "fucking awesome man", that its way more difficult to stop using than it was for me to quit opiates(my just personal experiance). i dropped opiates like a hot potato. cant say the same for alcohol/tobacco

not saying 'go shoot some heroin' though. just saying that berating someone for liking opiates is just as absurd as berating someone for getting drunk every once in awhile or smoking


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: Adolin] * 1
    #22243874 - 09/15/15 11:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

You obviously didn't use opiates very long.  You're probably a young person who doesn't have as much experience with drugs as you think, and being someone who thought the same it would benefit you alot to take in both sides of the coin and try to make choices that will not fuck you over in the long term rather than count on circumstances to keep you from getting hooked.  Maybe that works sometimes, but it's just a dumb gamble to make.

Fuck having an opiate appreciation in the pub.  Take that shit to ODD.  It's a pain in the ass to me because most people here will admit that they do it to cope with social anxiety, and because it is the one thing that makes them feel good, but then when you point out this is addict-talk all the sudden they are the epitome of control and the most casual of casual users.  Especially when they say they went through a small spat of addiction with weed already, so now they know better :facepalm:  That's bullshit and I know it.

People with stress and anxiety who depend on drugs are going to get burned, it's inevitable.  Being a drug nerd won't stop that, it will only give you a false sense of confidence.  I know some people who will take a vicodin here and there for soreness or even to get high, but I just can't picture any of them glorifying the drug, and they don't really seek it out or care very much one way or another because they don't need it.  It's different when someone wants to come in and talk up opiates as if the risks are actually much more manageable than people make out.  Anyone who says that obviously hasn't been around opiates that long, and I think is being mislead to their own detriment.


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #22243928 - 09/15/15 11:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

honestly the reason i love taking opiates is because it makes ambient/drone music the greatest thing in the world for a few hours.  :alien:
it's like crawling back into the womb for a short while, especially with the lights off in your bed. every now and again, i want that kind of feeling.

no different than doing any other kind of drug once in a blue moon. just a different state of mind for me.


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: resonant111]
    #22243960 - 09/15/15 11:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So it's really not that great?  In terms of experience it's like any other drug?  I don't see what is so exciting about that, and sounds like pretty lame reasoning considering what is at stake, but if that is what is important to you I'm sure that's what you'll do.


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Re: Opiate appreciation thread? [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #22243975 - 09/15/15 11:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I would say, from the volume of bickering in this thread - that the most likely effect of opiates is to render one an insufferable git! :strokebeard:


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