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Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates
#22235545 - 09/14/15 07:07 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sup guys, I decided to whip up my first batch of Pasty plates last night. Followed the tek to a T. What is the quickest way to reduce the high level of condensation on the sides of the plate?

Do you think I should remove the foil in open air or in my SAB? I've also read somewhere that turning your plates upside down will help reduce the condensation, not sure if that's true or not. 
I will be cloning a couple of these mushies from my last dub tub grow. The first pic is from this morning, the others are from last night. This is an MS grow and the tub is on its 5th flush!! 
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22235607 - 09/14/15 07:58 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's too much water in your agar mix. When you initially mix everything together in a pot and heat it. Heat it a little longer to make your agar mix thicker and lets more water evap away from it. Once everything is said and done you'll have much less condensation and yeah storing upside down prevents water from running onto the surface.i would recommend that because I ran into the same issue
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: ICEMANOO9]
#22235664 - 09/14/15 08:39 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Okay I was following Munch's videos. He used 1/2 cup of water, 2.5 grams agar, and 3.5 grams potato flakes. I heated up the mix until it was boiling a bit, and it got very thick. In his videos, it seems more liquidy I'm really not sure how thick the mix should be before pouring into plates at this point.
My mix hardened into a jello like substance right before I pc'ed so I don't think too much water was an issue. I'll def try flipping the plates and see if that helps. I'll be cloning tomorrow morning, hopefully most of the condensation is gone by then.
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: Psilosoulful] 1
#22235797 - 09/14/15 09:43 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Psilosoulful said: What is the quickest way to reduce the high level of condensation on the sides of the plate?
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ICEMANOO9 said: It's too much water in your agar mix.
No, it's not......
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Psilosoulful said: I've also read somewhere that turning your plates upside down will help reduce the condensation, not sure if that's true or not. 
No, the lid will collect water and then when u flip it over you will flood the culture....
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: Psilosoulful]
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It wont.....
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: PussyFart]
#22235803 - 09/14/15 09:44 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Condensation is from a temperature differential.....you need to store them in a cooler of some type, like an insulated lunch box or something....
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: PussyFart]
#22236130 - 09/14/15 11:18 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Psilosoulful said: I'll def try flipping the plates and see if that helps.
It wont.....
Okay thanks for the input, guess it was outdated info.
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PussyFart said: Condensation is from a temperature differential.....you need to store them in a cooler of some type, like an insulated lunch box or something....
Should I store them in my fridge or is that too cold? And should I be taking the foil off now or wait until I place it in the SAB?
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22236188 - 09/14/15 11:31 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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My bad I didn't mean "too much" as in the measurments are wrong just that simmering for a bit reduces the water content a little. Than I put upright in the fridge til they set and they worked fine the condensation was very little
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: ICEMANOO9]
#22236208 - 09/14/15 11:34 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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stack them and put a cup of warm water on top and wait 20 minutes or so, don't flip them.
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: cronicr]
#22236246 - 09/14/15 11:42 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I gradually bring down the heat on the PC over the course of 15 or so minutes. I heard that may help. I also dont fill my pasty plates quite as deep as you did on some of yours. Maybe try those things on your next run and see if that helped. My first run at pasty plates resulted in loads condensation and those are the 2 things that I altered and they come out great now.
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: Spiracha]
#22236483 - 09/14/15 12:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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yes slowly turning the pressure down helps alot as well. i prep mine days in advance and by then the condensation is gone anyway
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: cronicr]
#22236882 - 09/14/15 02:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks for the tip! Is there any negatives to cloning now? All the mushies are fully matured and have sporulated already.
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22237058 - 09/14/15 03:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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well that's one problem is that they are mature, pins are much better
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: cronicr]
#22237111 - 09/14/15 03:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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But if they're pins how can you tell if they have good genetics or not, if you don't let them mature fully?
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22237264 - 09/14/15 03:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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what do you consider "good genetics"? fro me it's a nice cluster of mushrooms
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: cronicr]
#22237271 - 09/14/15 03:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's true. I was thinking of cloning the biggest mushroom possible, if you clone too early, then you can't know for sure.
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22237300 - 09/14/15 03:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just because you clone the biggest mushroom, doesn't mean you'll grow big mushrooms. Trust me, I cloned a monster pe6 fruit and the tub fruited wall to wall but 2" to 3" tall fruits.
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22241158 - 09/15/15 12:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Should I take the folded paper towel that is covering the GE hole( single strip of micropore tape) off or leave it on the entire time. Not sure if micropore can protect against all airborne contams from getting to the culture. Thanks for the help guys. I'm about to do some cloning right now! 
Anybody have any luck trying to clone fruits that are fully mature?
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22272888 - 09/22/15 07:27 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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So i went ahead and cloned the big mushie in the middle of the pic about a week ago. The growth on the pasty plate looks good. Can you guys let me know where I should be taking my first transfer? Should I be taking just one of those tiny strands that are spreading outward? Sorry for the blurriness of the pic, but you get the idea.
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22272951 - 09/22/15 08:00 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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From what I can see. I'd take from the.6 o clock area. I just look for the most aggressive and fastest to reach out from center and take.from there. Unless I'm wrong I've had.great results. My monos have.gotten me pretty even flushes of similar size and.shape fruits.
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: vagblast]
#22273003 - 09/22/15 08:19 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks for the input, ill be taking multiple transfers, so hopefully I can find a good monoculture.
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22273021 - 09/22/15 08:29 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah I make 20 or so transfers from one dish and most of the time 1 or more ends up a mono. Sometimes I have.to make one or more before I get monos but its rare. Then I just clone those Mono's or well transfer into as many needed then I'm done. I know its a waste but I think once I get these last.few.done I'll drop back to doing.a few at a time . I'm wasting.too much Petri's and agar how I do it. Good luck to you bro. Keep us posted.
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: vagblast]
#22273095 - 09/22/15 08:53 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wow that's a lot of plates! I'll post updates after the first transfer is done.
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22273122 - 09/22/15 09:01 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah I know. I thought it.would speed things up getting a mono on the first transfer. And it kinda did but I don't. Don't.wanna buy a shit ton of plates and agar to waste 3/4 of it for.nothing. if planned well I'll have a tub going while another.is colonizing while jars are colonizing while jars just got knocked.up while agar is growing.while I'm starting.new ones. Lol keep a rythum going.ya know. Yeah man. I'd love to see how ur coming along. I'm gonna start posting my junk soon. Just trying to get settled in my new place.
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: vagblast]
#22274481 - 09/22/15 02:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Gonna make those transfers when I get out of work, been busy af.
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22274698 - 09/22/15 03:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah I just bought this place out.like its mine no payments. Just land taxes own the.land too. I will be turning.the.big walk in closet into a grow room and post my progress on here. Just gotta get to it eventually
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: vagblast]
#22274729 - 09/22/15 03:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sounds awesome man! I've been doing all my work in my dirty ass basement, it's amazing I've had such low contam rates. Guess my SAB sterile procedures are on point.
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22274772 - 09/22/15 03:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ha yeah. I started in a moldy mildewed bathroom. Had pretty great results.
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: vagblast]
#22274825 - 09/22/15 04:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah having an efficient SAB is crucial for success. Can't wait to take those transfers tomorrow! Then I'm off to the feed store to get some oats!!
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22274951 - 09/22/15 04:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: vagblast]
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22275013 - 09/22/15 04:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: vagblast]
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22280881 - 09/23/15 08:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just finished taking some transfers to four separate pasty plates. It was kinda hard to take clean transfers, given how thick I poured the agar. My exacto blade would not make a clean slice of the agar, no matter how careful I was. Oh well, I'll make it thinner next time and definitely take transfers as soon as I see growth, I waited wayyy too long for this one 

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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22282374 - 09/24/15 07:18 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nice man. Can't wait too see the monos. What strain?
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: vagblast]
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22283053 - 09/24/15 10:15 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Haha sweet. I love your little hopping.shroom guy. He's fucking cute!
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: vagblast]
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22283892 - 09/24/15 01:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've given up on trying to stop the condensation. I just swirl the cups around rapidly til the collected water knocks the beads off the wall. Then I dump it out in the SAB when I go to use them.
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: stareatclouds]
#22284365 - 09/24/15 02:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hah, that's what I had to do with the other plates I transferred to. A tiny bit of water was pooled up on the side, I made sure to pour it out. I've heard using glass jars works a lot better with little to no condensation. I might try that for my next round of agar.
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22284661 - 09/24/15 04:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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yes, but glass jars are harder to tigerdrop
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: guyute22]
#22284696 - 09/24/15 04:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hmm good point. I guess I'll try bringing down the pressure slower, I heard this method can also reduce condensation. Need to see what works!!
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22284733 - 09/24/15 04:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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My glass jar still had condensation. And cutting out agar isn't that much more difficult than Tiger dropping.
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: stareatclouds]
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Yeah I know, I've got to improve on my techniques. This is my first attempt, so hopefully all goes well.
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: stareatclouds]
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Yea I don't mind cutting from jars at all. When I do my agar in glass jars I rarely get condensation, and if I do, it all dissipates by the next day.
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: iSmkGrnBud]
#22284973 - 09/24/15 05:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: vagblast]
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I couldn't pick up the oats today, I was too busy with school.
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22286492 - 09/24/15 10:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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made my first round of agar about a week ago. didnt see a lot of condensation. but i poured them WAY too thick and i was practicing and opened a few to check the consistency. after that a cooked 2 more batches. all in 1/4 pint jars. i had condensation with those. but it did evaporate in like a day or two. but then again i havent even perfected or had any real decent practice with it so hey. what do i kno..
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: aerow.thefox]
#22286523 - 09/24/15 11:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's all good man, just gotta have more practice, and follow the vids by Munch to a T. Hopefully my good SAB sterile techniques will pay off! I'll keep my fingers crossed.
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22288948 - 09/25/15 03:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I just don't see it being as easy for me as petri dishes though I have the same exacto knife as you psilo and if I tilt it too far vertical without lots of angle it rubbs the myc off the.agar instead of cutting it. With Pettis I can lean that knife down and it cuts perfect. Deeper the dish the higher the angle. Do you have that problem at all?
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: vagblast]
#22288992 - 09/25/15 03:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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vag,
That's a huge issue I had for a while. I changed my agar recipe for harder agar and also poured my plates thicker. Now I can cut a circle and pull it out no problem!
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: stareatclouds]
#22289145 - 09/25/15 04:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'll give that a shot man. I just kinda think that I need a better blade. Like a curved one or something. But I'll deffinatly give ur way a try.
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: vagblast]
#22289614 - 09/25/15 06:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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A curved blade would definitely make it easier to slice into the agar in one swipe and lightly scoop it out without having to stab the agar on the tip of the blade to transfer to your other plates. I might make a trip to the arts and crafts store tomorrow and look for different blades.
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22289805 - 09/25/15 07:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah same here man. Didn't.see any.at walmart may have to get the set with a bunch f different mother fucking god damn ass shit bitch !
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: vagblast]
#22289961 - 09/25/15 08:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Blades
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: vagblast]
#22290259 - 09/25/15 09:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I hear you, that shits expensive as fuck
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22290651 - 09/25/15 10:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Not exactly blades, but look into 'wax carvers' on Amazon or somewhere. There are some interestingly shaped tools that should have applications for agar work.
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: LazyMonkey]
#22291030 - 09/25/15 11:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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 A smaller version of these could be cool.
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: LocN9ne]
#22291088 - 09/25/15 11:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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You guys should seriously just work on your technique and try changing the agar. I had a huge issue with this as well until I dialed in the aforementioned things. Now the shit plops out no problem.
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: stareatclouds]
#22292255 - 09/26/15 08:49 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah I'll work on my tek man. I really don't wanna buy all this crap and not use most of it. I will buy some better blades though just to try new things.
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: vagblast]
#22292419 - 09/26/15 09:23 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nice!
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22294578 - 09/26/15 04:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Rrrrrhgg. I gotta get away from cvg. Man its so easy but I want better yields.
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: vagblast]
#22294591 - 09/26/15 04:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nothing wrong with cvg man, yields real good ime
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Yeah but I feel like I could be doing.my babies better. Sometime s while tripping.my ass off staring at them growing a swear they talk to me and tell me they deserve better. They want.poop I think. And coffee. I mean I've tried it.before but I never has good success idk I feel bad for.my babies. I wish it was easyer for me to give.them more. I just need practice I guess. I hate to have to have them grow in something.I'm not so sure about though. Makes.me.sad
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: vagblast]
#22294647 - 09/26/15 05:11 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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But in all seriousness though, it's genetics that determine the yields you get, not the substrate. Clone the fastest growing fruit from a cluster(if you can), isolate it further on more agar plates if you want, and then when you grow it out you'll have MUCH better yields, guaranteed!
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: vagblast]
#22294669 - 09/26/15 05:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey what do y'all think about my pasteurizing tek BTW?its a little different. I boiled water then added a pillow case with a half a brick of coir 1q coarse verm and 1/4 cup gypsum and let soak then hung till water just stopped streaming witch put it right at field cap no squeezing. Then put in jars and in water bath at 165 for 1.5 hrs. Thoughts?
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: vagblast]
#22294684 - 09/26/15 05:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oh I do. They just tell me sometimes they're hungry for.more here's my most recent iso.
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: vagblast]
#22294704 - 09/26/15 05:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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vagblast said: Hey what do y'all think about my pasteurizing tek BTW?its a little different. I boiled water then added a pillow case with a half a brick of coir 1q coarse verm and 1/4 cup gypsum and let soak then hung till water just stopped streaming witch put it right at field cap no squeezing. Then put in jars and in water bath at 165 for 1.5 hrs. Thoughts?
The pillowcase with coir in it is a pretty good idea. It's less messy for sure. But you still have to squeeze the cvg mix until the water is only dripping a tiny amount from your hands, or you'll have some really wet substrate that is prone to contaminating quickly. I'm not even sure mycelium could colonize a super-soaked sub like that.
It should pool up around the knuckles and fingers when squeezing at max strength..that's field capacity.
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vagblast said: Oh I do. They just tell me sometimes they're hungry for.more here's my most recent iso.

Good work, it's ready for grain jars, take those wedges out man!!
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22294729 - 09/26/15 05:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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When I tied the.pillow case it was too tight as the sub expanded it filled the.case super tight. I took a hand full and.squeezed super hard and got a little to drop out of my hand but not much.
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: vagblast]
#22294735 - 09/26/15 05:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Good, that's perfect.  And it's always better for the mix to be a little too dry than too wet.
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22294845 - 09/26/15 05:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah man. I got.good with field cap. I mean I figured I might.have to squeeze more but I got it right in the.money witch was cool. Jars are still in bath right now. I've got.about an hr.left. how long do u pasteurize for?
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: vagblast]
#22294875 - 09/26/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I pasteurize for an hour at 140-165f. I always start my timer when the temp hits 140f, then towards the end, the temp should be slightly below 165f. Then I turn off the heat and take my jars out and let them cool to room temp before using them. I try to follow Frank's Pasteurization Tek to a T, it hasn't failed me yet!! http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17246844/fpart/all/vc/1
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22295084 - 09/26/15 06:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sweet. Maybe.I'll follow that tek for a bit. I mean I usually boil then pour into sub in a bucket put in pillow case to squeeze with a little.less pressure to leave a little more moisture then pour npc and.heat to 170 then put lid on and let.sit.till cool. It holds around 165 to 160 for about 1 hr then drops slowly as I keep it.in my PC. And that's what I've.dine.for.like 2 yes now. Its worked.perfect but its messy. Thought I'd try it like this. Idk where I came up with thus idea just did.
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: vagblast]
#22295179 - 09/26/15 07:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Cool, if it works for you, then don't change it. But 170f is a bit high IMO, that is beginning to partially sterilize the substrate. I always freak out when my temp goes higher than 165f, I pour cups of cold water in my PC to try to bring the temp back down quickly. It'd suck to prep all those jars and have to start over because the temp jumped too high. It also took me a bit of practice to maintain the temps between a certain range. Having a digital food thermometer helps immensely tho.
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22295346 - 09/26/15 07:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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That prob u see in my pic is very expensive I use it for that and my land smoker cooker I cook tons of meat in. Lu's I use another digital thermo to check water temp around jars. A steady 165 keeps jars at 162. Pretty good I think. Imo
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: vagblast]
#22295371 - 09/26/15 07:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's why I changed it up dude. I now have.the ability to keep temps nominal. Before without jars it was 170 then let sit. Any lower or higher I got contams before first flush. Not due to spawn either I ruled that out a long time ago. But with the jars and.pillow vase method I kinda.made up myself. A little. It seems to work way better at keeping.temps.exact. I'll keep you posted though and.maybe.post.my new tek on the.forums
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: vagblast]
#22295691 - 09/26/15 08:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sounds cool dude, write it up!!
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22295701 - 09/26/15 08:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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hmmm interesting, very interesting!!!
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: Darkhome]
#22295798 - 09/26/15 08:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah if it turns out well I may.write it up. I mean its a little easyer I think than most teks similar to it. And to me pretty damn simple to get right. And hard to get wrong. After a couple of trials it works good I'll post ot
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Re: Heavy condensation inside Pasty plates [Re: vagblast]
#22295872 - 09/26/15 08:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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vagblast said: Yeah if it turns out well I may.write it up. I mean its a little easyer I think than most teks similar to it. And to me pretty damn simple to get right. And hard to get wrong. After a couple of trials it works good I'll post ot
Edited by Psilosoulful (09/26/15 08:59 PM)
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