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Anyone stack gold or silver?
#22235418 - 09/14/15 05:15 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thinking of buying some precious metals. Post your stacks if you have em.
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: kakashi68]
#22235421 - 09/14/15 05:17 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I knew this guy who literally had like over $20,000 in gold jewelry and knick-knacks
Shit was crazy, he kept it in a goddamn treasure chest in his basement
Then he mysteriously vanished
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: OhMrJohnson]
#22235465 - 09/14/15 06:00 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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yah post your gold please followed by your addy everyone
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22235487 - 09/14/15 06:19 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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A friend of mine has been buying silver for awhile, has probably just shy of $5k worth. He is set on the idea that once the dollar collapses, he will be the one laughing
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: wolfiewolfie]
#22235496 - 09/14/15 06:27 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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wolfiewolfie said: A friend of mine has been buying silver for awhile, has probably just shy of $5k worth. He is set on the idea that once the dollar collapses, he will be the one laughing 
People like that make me fucking laugh mind you silver does have some actual worth where as my friend who is also like this was buying stacks of Digimon, Pokemon & DBZ tazo chips like the ones you would get in a packet of chips & thought in time could re-sell them for a small fortune
 Shit like that just makes me laugh & think "You'll learn one day, son" Pretty sure he has stopped buying them & is trying to re-sell the ones he has now to break even. Classic.
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: SludgeCity]
#22235499 - 09/14/15 06:32 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Haha, every time my mate tries to talk to me about it I usually just end up saying something like when your laying on your death bed is it really going to matter. Gets him so worked up
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: kakashi68]
#22235591 - 09/14/15 07:45 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm busy stacking Magic The Gathering cards
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: nicechrisman]
#22235636 - 09/14/15 08:18 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: SludgeCity]
#22235648 - 09/14/15 08:30 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I buy a lot of silver for my jewelry business, but I wouldn't invest money in gold or silver as a safety net. The silver and gold can be manipulated and even recalled making it illegal for anyone to sit on it. As a gemologist, it's clear where the real investing is. High end American gems have been sought after and production has never been high enough to cause a glut. Gems like aquamarine, sapphire, tourmaline, morganite, kunzite, red beryl, heliodor etc have done nothing but rise in value over the past 5 years.
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really? I would have thought all the shit they started making in labs would have started to lower their value? And as the technology advances, and has already advanced to the point for diamonds at least you can't tell the difference anymore without extensive tests.
point is the gem market is about to get ran over by 3d printing/lab technology. who's going to bother paying for gems when you can just print some shit that's custom and exactly what you want it to look like
I wouldn't be surprised if the gem market hasn't already started to get fakes. well im sure they've had fakes for a long time but now it'll be worse and the quality could skyrocket
part of me worries they will eventually learn how to make gold and silver as well or at the least they will find a way to make gold from a mixture of other metals + chemicals and environmental influences.
guns were thought of being a good investment as well but 3dprinting has kinda fucked that up too, how long till you can start printing real guns that are quality
really at the end of the day there's only 3 things people can't fuck with, food, water, land. those are the real investments and that's why California is in a drought, the water industry sucked it dry and its a 2 fold brilliant idea. You get your product to sell, and you raise its value because you fucked California out of all their water.
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22235998 - 09/14/15 10:41 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Fakes and treated stones for color enhancement are common in the gem market, which makes the true gems more valuable, but you really have to have experience in the scams to know what to look for. One of the latest scams is to laminate a thin slab of real but specimen grade ruby onto a synthetic ruby. The buyer will see the zoning they are looking for and buy. That's another reason American gems are so valuable. You can usually go directly to the mine owners and know what you're buying is the real deal. I sell my gems and have an impeccable reputation in the gem market. I actually try to educate my buyers about the various grades they're looking at and the scams some of my competitors use. One that is used by my competitors is to change the name of a long established type of obsidian and rename it as something almost identical to another variety that's harder to dig, almost extinct in nature, and extremely valuable. In this case it was middle fork davis creek rainbow obsidian. People digging next to where I used to dig decided one year to rename it as "electroblaze" and doubled the price on it. I'm one of the only people to dig and actually get the true electric blue obsidian from another mine altogether. They named the mfdc rainbow as close as they could think to the electric blue to obviously try and make more money from it. It has caused a big misunderstanding between buyers and sellers, and dissent between me and the scammers who are trying to pull this off. My response has been to high grade my best mfdc rainbow and sell it as mfdc rainbow at a slightly higher price. My buyers are always confused about this situation and get a good education on what's going on. I'm sure it comes back around to my competitors though and they hate me for it.
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so you mine some yourself or are you referring to when you go to the mines to buy? Mining gems and metals at a hobby level always seemed like something that could be fun but really hard to get started, so if you do mine yourself id be curious as to how you go about it, and how you find places to mine
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22236104 - 09/14/15 11:09 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I do mine my own gems and own 8 claims in Colorado and southern California. None of my claims have been proven yet other than quartz crystals and galena, but I spent this season mining on a friend's claim for aquamarine. I mined over 10k worth of good stones in two weeks and another 5-10k in very fine stones. Doing this without a good connection is almost impossible up there in Colorado right now. I'm lucky as hell and am mining the same claim that the prospectors film crew is filming Amanda and Jessica digging big stones from. It's really about hard work though and a lot of persistence. One partner gave up this season before we even got going and I'm sure he's kicking himself. You have to envision yourself hitting big rather than worrying about failure. Both will happen but this seems to have paid off for me. I located possibly the last of the electric blue obsidian a few years ago and put a crew on it last year to get most of it. I ended up with a few tons of gem grade electric blue that I sell for $20 per gram polished. That's $9k per pound of finished obsidian. I used to sell it rough for $20 a pound but I feel like I'm giving it away for that when I can polish it and only let out so much at the shows, always keeping it in demand. I sold enough rough to create a buzz, directing buyers to me since they all now know I mined it recently.
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I think cash is better then wasting your time with gold and silver.
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I honestly wouldn't get into buying stones without at least a few years practice buying in smaller lots and following the results. It takes a good jeweler to be able to look at a pile of stones and know the value after they're cut. You have to take into consideration color variations, imperfections, loss, size, and clarity. Most sellers don't have their stone lots perfectly graded so it can take awhile to get an accurate value. Most buyers are reluctant to just sit down and take a vendor's whole day picking through their stones, and most sellers don't welcome this, since stones are stolen this way very easily unless every single stone is accounted for, and even then they can be switched out for fakes or of lesser quality. It's the greatest return if you know what to buy and what not to buy, but that can be really hard to determine.
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The diamond market has been rigged for many decades. Diamonds are not that scarce and without mafia style tactics, the price would have collapsed long ago.
You can't create gold or silver in the lab. The price of pm's has been kept artificially low. When the worldwide economic collapse hits, pm's will shoot up in value. Get 'em while they are cheap.
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: kakashi68]
#22236609 - 09/14/15 01:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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stacking guns and ammo is more important. Because I'm going to take your precious metals with my guns during the apocalypse. Better investment too, just look at the price of guns in ammo over the past 10 years in California.
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: wolfiewolfie]
#22236868 - 09/14/15 02:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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wolfiewolfie said: A friend of mine has been buying silver for awhile, has probably just shy of $5k worth. He is set on the idea that once the dollar collapses, he will be the one laughing 
Meanwhile the dollar gets stronger and stronger and the price of silver has tanked 70% in the last four years.
He has $5000 worth? I wonder how much he paid for it? Probably $15,000. Suckers are born every minute.
Edited by koods (09/14/15 02:25 PM)
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: koods]
#22237030 - 09/14/15 02:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Your faith in fiat currency is cute.
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: danielx]
#22237278 - 09/14/15 03:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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i have some silver(morgans), i dont really actively collect them though, and they arent really worth that much
used to have a like 30 silver eagles, from birthdays and christmas gifts. ended up selling them at a cash 4 gold place though :sadface:
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: Adolin] 1
#22237292 - 09/14/15 03:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have a bunch of the JFK silver half dollars from the 60's
I usually buy them at the gas stations. They always have them it seems.
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: Stonehenge]
#22237575 - 09/14/15 04:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: The diamond market has been rigged for many decades. Diamonds are not that scarce and without mafia style tactics, the price would have collapsed long ago.
You can't create gold or silver in the lab. The price of pm's has been kept artificially low. When the worldwide economic collapse hits, pm's will shoot up in value. Get 'em while they are cheap.
The only diamonds I would ever buy are colored and from America. Gold can actually be made in a nuclear reactor, but is very expensive with current technology to do so viably.
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Yeah, you can make gold in a reactor and it only costs a few million a gram. Not a concern, basically all we have is what is in the ground or already mined.
American diamonds? Are those made in laboratories?
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: Stonehenge]
#22237657 - 09/14/15 05:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: basically all we have is what is in the ground or already mined
You can say that about almost any resource.
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: Stonehenge]
#22237709 - 09/14/15 05:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: Yeah, you can make gold in a reactor and it only costs a few million a gram. Not a concern, basically all we have is what is in the ground or already mined.
American diamonds? Are those made in laboratories?
Crater of Diamonds state park in Arkansas. The Famous Canary Diamond was found there.
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: koods]
#22237820 - 09/14/15 05:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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wolfiewolfie said: A friend of mine has been buying silver for awhile, has probably just shy of $5k worth. He is set on the idea that once the dollar collapses, he will be the one laughing 
Meanwhile the dollar gets stronger and stronger and the price of silver has tanked 70% in the last four years.
He has $5000 worth? I wonder how much he paid for it? Probably $15,000. Suckers are born every minute.
Or maybe he bought it all recently for cheap. Low prices are great news when you're buying.
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: psi]
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koods said:
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wolfiewolfie said: A friend of mine has been buying silver for awhile, has probably just shy of $5k worth. He is set on the idea that once the dollar collapses, he will be the one laughing 
Meanwhile the dollar gets stronger and stronger and the price of silver has tanked 70% in the last four years.
He has $5000 worth? I wonder how much he paid for it? Probably $15,000. Suckers are born every minute.
Or maybe he bought it all recently for cheap. Low prices are great news when you're buying.
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Silver has been on a relentless decline for years
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: koods]
#22238231 - 09/14/15 07:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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A "while" could be any amount of time really.
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: koods]
#22238265 - 09/14/15 07:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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How cheap can it go? I been metal detecting and haven't spent a dime on the silver and gold I have collected. Well besides on coffee and batteries. But over the past 2 years I got almost 11 ounces of junk silver and 16 grams of AU. Some of the coins have more value then melt but I'm just low balling it.
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: psi]
#22238312 - 09/14/15 07:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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psi said: A "while" could be any amount of time really.
Orwellian hogwash
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Corporal Kielbasa said: He probably gave up because you're an over emotional, condescending,liar, high all mighty, entitled brat. Still blacking out and acting like an asshole I imagine.
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: koods]
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I'm a bit of a hoarder, I like paper. Cash. Trees. The flimsy shit. And I don't like spending it. That's why my pics suck.
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: twighead]
#22238612 - 09/14/15 08:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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You need to put a bed sheet over that. They'll never notice it under a bed sheet.
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Well shit I don't know who you are but it seems you must have had a run in with me a couple years ago when I was eating etizolam like candy and drinking rum like water. Sorry if I was a dick. I lost most of my friends back then and can't remember most of it.
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Nailed it and first time I heard a sorry. Its cool bro. I dug with you and took my rocks and went home. Had another account here then. Sorry I burst. But to be honest I been bitter to this day. Cost a lot and wasted a bunch. When ever I see a post about etiz I tell them to stay away and don't.
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: kakashi68]
#22239702 - 09/15/15 04:08 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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You are best going to coin shows or gun shows and buying them. Don't buy off the internet or from pawnshop unless it is very close to spot. Stay away from gold bars and only buy pure silver bars if you can test in the flesh. Bring in a some iced water when you go to buy pure silver. You can almost here the silver cook the ice because is conducts the thermal energy so fast.
Also to be sure you are know what you are getting everytime, buy junk silver. It's the best way to start getting into it.
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22239704 - 09/15/15 04:09 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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its that time of year to shed the old baggage
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I dunno about your gun shows, but the ones I go to are filled with scam artists, liars, and people pretending to be professionals when they are mearly bums off the street.
10-20 years ago you could go to a gun show and get guns at a nice discount, now when you go these dudes have the shit MARKED UP, AND you have to pay to get in so whats the dam point
personally id avoid coin/gun shows like the plague and go through a big name website
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: Shiithead]
#22239857 - 09/15/15 06:33 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm a fan of "junk" silver coins as well. I used to buy from a little shop in a mall where they based their prices on the spot price. Also did some trades on a coin forum. Really small time stuff but it was a fun hobby for me (put together a collection of coins I like looking at, even if there is no real numismatic value) and I made some money when the prices were high.
The zealots who think prices can only go up and up and up are pretty nuts but I think it's a pretty fun and low risk way to get into investing if you make your moves at sensible times. If you buy when prices are low, realistically prices can only go so much lower. If they do, you buy more and lower your average buy price. Prices could stay low for a long time, but it's pretty much an absolute certainty that there will be another bull run sometime. Might not always be the best performing investment, but "buy low, sell high" is very low risk. It's the "buy high, hope to sell higher" people (and the "buy high, hope for the apocalypse" crowd) who often get themselves into stupid financial situations.
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: VivaLaMushie]
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VivaLaMushie said: I have a bunch of the JFK silver half dollars from the 60's
I usually buy them at the gas stations. They always have them it seems.
Willing to trade?
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: Magenta]
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I always wonder why people always buy shit with those half dollars. They have to know when they spend it that its not something seen everyday, yet they still go in and just drop that shit down on the counter like its just another coin. Maybe they just view it as a pay it forward type of attitude, or just don't want to deal with scumbag pawn shops
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22259879 - 09/19/15 11:53 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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We made out with 17 grand profit during the bubble just from silver & that was after we purchased/restocked when it got back to 15. My husband handles the "books" but our gold trading got us a very generous savings and paid off my student loans.
Not going to post any stacks or numbers.. that'd be foolish for anyone looking to make a trade in the future. It's a sizeable share when gold was 400 an ounce. There's also our palladium we got in 1999 we could still profit from immensely.
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: Peachette] 2
#22260019 - 09/19/15 12:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I still have gold I bought years ago, not quite at 400 but in the 400's. Some later in the 500's. One day the people with physical gold will be king while the fiat and paper holders will be very sad.
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: Stonehenge]
#22260047 - 09/19/15 12:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: One day the people with physical gold will be king while the fiat and paper holders will be very sad.
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: Shiithead]
#22260416 - 09/19/15 02:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Until they recall all the gold and silver, which has been done before.
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Gotta get your stuff off the books then somehow
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: Stonehenge]
#22260444 - 09/19/15 02:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: I still have gold I bought years ago, not quite at 400 but in the 400's. Some later in the 500's. One day the people with physical gold will be king while the fiat and paper holders will be very sad.
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Pretty much. It baffles me that people think it's a useless endeavor and would rather get in to the stock market now. Of all times really? Buy on an upward slope, sounds good .
When AIG was less than a dollar a share my parents threw 40 grand(ish) or so at it IIRC. They sold somewhere around 50 dollars a share and maybe higher idk. I know they walked away with around 2 million or something ridiculous playing that and two others (automobiles?) that nearly disappeared during the crash. They don't discuss it and I won't know until they pass but I dread that day.
TBH, they deserved it. My mother was raised dirt poor and stayed that way for the better part of 25 years working two and a half jobs when dad left.
They lived off of disability from stepfather's Gulf War syndrome loading irradiated shells. They lost their home and almost everything. It was a stunning example of a "hail mary" pass.
I have no idea why they threw caution to the wind and nearly every penny at it while in debt and losing their home but they pretty much won the stock market lotto. I'm just glad they are happy even if my stepfather is as useless as a thermal winter coat in a Florida summer (before he got sick and after he got better).
I hope they do the right thing and set up a trust for our nephew instead of giving it to my brother. That kid is so full of failure and has never finished a goal in his life and has always lived off their dime, unemployed, even when they were dirt poor. Didn't even offer to go to food shelves or volunteer for our town to get free shares.
Anyhow tho, it's all besides the point.
At the end of the day they are family and the only family I have. We can only ask for love and light for those close to us irregardless of past mistakes or douchebaggery.
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As far as metals go, my husband said the Fed rate hike and recent Russia, China and Syria conflicts may make a higher profit than before if not the same. If it crashes to $10 silver and $800 gold he wants to buy more. I don't know how I feel about that, but he did manage to get us 20k-30k silver profit and turned around and tripled our holdings except the Palladium. If Ag or Au drop, he's unloading all the Pd... but we are going to have a lengthy discussion and do audits beforehand.
I had to put my foot down and get him to stop buying metals and coins. It almost came to addiction levels. It's "his" money but there's a line that has to be drawn with so many international issues now and the false deflation [terminology(?)] of metals.
From what I understand they're all manipulated through big money markets and the ratios are off. I will probably be eating my words when or if it skyrockets but whatever, we are sitting pretty with incredibly secure and insured safety deposit boxes in three different locations in two states.
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: Peachette]
#22261729 - 09/19/15 07:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Haruko Haruhara said: secure and insured safety deposit boxes in three different locations in two states.
I would get it out of there. If it ever goes to shit like it did in the late 20's who's to say they won't fall short. Sure they can reimburse you with paper money but paper is fiat currency. Gold/silver is too in a sense but precious metals will always have a place in any society. Right now in Illinois, lottery winners cannot claim their winnings because the state's budget doesn't allow the state to pay out. I hate to tell you this but banks and insurance are a false sense of security.
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: Shiithead]
#22261765 - 09/19/15 07:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I had a plate of gold implanted in my eyelid (hence the username). I ripped it out one day and I've been hanging on to it. Does that count as a stack?
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: GoldenEye]
#22261783 - 09/19/15 07:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you had two plates then yes. xD
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: Shiithead]
#22261803 - 09/19/15 07:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Damn it, symmetry is overrated, my other eye didn't need one!
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: Stonehenge]
#22261981 - 09/19/15 08:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: The diamond market has been rigged for many decades. Diamonds are not that scarce and without mafia style tactics, the price would have collapsed long ago.
You can't create gold or silver in the lab. The price of pm's has been kept artificially low. When the worldwide economic collapse hits, pm's will shoot up in value. Get 'em while they are cheap.
Prior to blood diamonds and DeBeers cornering 99% of the market, rings were typically adorned with rubies, emeralds, sapphires and the like. My engagement ring is a cushion cut emerald. My husband knew from the start I'm not a diamond girl.
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: Peachette]
#22261999 - 09/19/15 08:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Its nice to get lucky, very few do. Its better to have a plan, a good plan and stick to it which it sounds like you are doing. I too think its a false deflation going on and that physical gold is way undervalued. I'm not buying more at the moment, I have a good amount in sd boxes but if it drops significantly more I will. I have a good bit of silver but its so bulky and heavy I hate to mess with it. Substantial weight but not much money involved.
Yes, they recalled gold and silver many years ago. This was when we were on the gold standard and they wanted to print more funny money which they did. They exempted thousands of dollars in today's value of gold as well as rare coins.
Even if they did it again today, all it would mean is it would be illegal to possess over whatever amount of gold. I seriously doubt that will happen. They never pried open everyone's safe deposit box without a warrant and could not do that today.
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: GoldenEye]
#22263501 - 09/20/15 04:55 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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GoldenEye said: I had a plate of gold implanted in my eyelid (hence the username). I ripped it out one day and I've been hanging on to it. Does that count as a stack?
wait plz explain? Why does your eye need a plate? Why was it gold? did you insurance pay for it? How heavy is it? Pure gold? Why and how did you rip it out?
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: kakashi68]
#22263559 - 09/20/15 06:02 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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My eyelid wouldn't close on its own. So my eye dried out. So this surgeon had the brilliant idea of putting some extra weight in it.
I had to go to the dentist to get a cast of my eye made in the same stuff they use to make a cast of your teeth for making your braces. They cut the bottom from a plastic cup, placed the opened up cup on my eye, asked me to close it (which it can't do - that's why I was there in the first place ), and poured that gypsum type of stuff into the cup and onto my eye.
So then they made a thin fitting plate stretching the entire length and width of my eyelid. It was implanted and gold was used because it is supposed to be inert. But still, after years, my body chose to encyst it and there was a pretty sharp edge to the thing that caused a little hole to appear on the side of my eyelid. I went to the doctor who agreed to take it out.
He said, we could use local aneasthetics but you'd feel one sting from the injection. Or I could grab tweezers and yank it out, which is another sting. So I asked if I could pull it out myself and I did.
Of course the hole started to bleed so I needed stitches, again without aneasthetics, one stitch is just as bad as one injection after all.
Insurance paid for everything and I got to keep the plate.
Here is a picture:
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: GoldenEye]
#22263591 - 09/20/15 06:23 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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if I was your doc I woulda told you that you couldn't keep it, then as you walked out of the room I would have bit into it then quickly put it in my pocket
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: GoldenEye]
#22263595 - 09/20/15 06:26 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oh, you were serious. I assumed that was some kind of bizarre joke.
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: psi]
#22263616 - 09/20/15 06:45 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Impossible to make up the crazy shit we call reality
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22263619 - 09/20/15 06:47 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said: if I was your doc I woulda told you that you couldn't keep it, then as you walked out of the room I would have bit into it then quickly put it in my pocket 
Have fun biting in encysted bloodied gold. It didn't come out as shiny as it looks now I tell you that much.
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: GoldenEye]
#22265497 - 09/20/15 03:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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GoldenEye said: My eyelid wouldn't close on its own. So my eye dried out. So this surgeon had the brilliant idea of putting some extra weight in it.
I had to go to the dentist to get a cast of my eye made in the same stuff they use to make a cast of your teeth for making your braces. They cut the bottom from a plastic cup, placed the opened up cup on my eye, asked me to close it (which it can't do - that's why I was there in the first place ), and poured that gypsum type of stuff into the cup and onto my eye.
So then they made a thin fitting plate stretching the entire length and width of my eyelid. It was implanted and gold was used because it is supposed to be inert. But still, after years, my body chose to encyst it and there was a pretty sharp edge to the thing that caused a little hole to appear on the side of my eyelid. I went to the doctor who agreed to take it out.
He said, we could use local aneasthetics but you'd feel one sting from the injection. Or I could grab tweezers and yank it out, which is another sting. So I asked if I could pull it out myself and I did.
Of course the hole started to bleed so I needed stitches, again without aneasthetics, one stitch is just as bad as one injection after all.
Insurance paid for everything and I got to keep the plate.
Here is a picture:

zomg my eyelid doesnt close aswell... well most of the time. Someone else that knows what its like to think you are winking at everyone, no? maybe I should do this shit. Is the gold very heavy and worth much or is it just a few grams?
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Re: Anyone stack gold or silver? [Re: kakashi68]
#22268110 - 09/21/15 05:04 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's 1.3 grams. And I don't recommend it, it never got very comfortable. I always had the feeling it was flatter than the curve of my eye and too sharp. So I would wiggle it around a lot by touching it with my hands. I could push one end down and make the other end lift so I would teeter totter it back and forth all the time. And it didn't actually improve any irritation I get from not closing my eye fully. It still went dry a lot.
But, if you're looking to kickstart your gold stack with 1.3 grams I'd say go for it
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