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Got some bunk molly.
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So last night I bout 7 caps of supposed molly. The guy I bought it off said "it's the best I've ever done" "I took 2 caps and was rolling for 18 hours". Naturally I thought he was exaggerating and bought the caps. When I looked at them I was a little put off as they were greyish, and I had never seen that before. I popped 2 and after about half an hour I started having leg spasms for like an hour. This eventually subsided but I was left with a feeling of nervousness for the entire trip. After about 2 hours I started rolling and it was pretty cool. I noticed a distinct aspect of psychedelia, everything I looked at would start to morph and there were blotches of iradescence overlaying everything. I would look at a light and it would shoot rainbows out of it. It was consistent with some of the mdma I have taken before. The fucked up thing is that after like 6 hours I was still rolling fairly hard. I have no idea how this worked out, but there was also no come down. I eventually just got really tired and wanted to sleep. Mind you this was like 14 hours after i took the 2 caps.
I suspect this was a combination of 2cb, mdma, and meth. Just a guess. Honestly I have no idea what this shit is, but I still have 4 caps left so i'm gonna take em to my buddy with a test kit to see what's going on with them. It really turned me off of drugs for a while. I mean it was fun, but when yuou're not expecting a 14 hour high it's kind of annoying. I'm really curious what this shit was.
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I mean, he told you it was long.
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Sounds like MDA
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No shit man. The visuals were pretty crazy though. Full fledged psychedelia. Not just like the weird mdma visuals you get sometimes.
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Re: Got some bunk molly. [Re: The Moose]
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The Moose said: I mean, he told you it was long.
I didn't really believe him. Usually I take like 4 caps. I took 2 and had no desire whatsoever to take more.
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When you buy molly on the street it is like playing russian roulette.
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Meth or similar amp, could be anything, or even a slight psychedelic with an amp. What a shame.
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Yeah man no doubt. It was pretty dumb of me. I should have just stuck with my original source.
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Re: Got some bunk molly. [Re: Adden]
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It's not meth his post shows he is clearly not tweaking.
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Re: Got some bunk molly. [Re: The Moose]
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I just don't know what to do with these other 4 caps... I mean I guess I'll do them at some point.
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Just sell them to some ramdom people and tell them it's molly. 
Just kidding, do not do that.
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I was going to do that actually. But then i was like, hmm this isn't a cool thing to do to ppl.
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"I didn't like these pills, I took some and didn't have any interest doing more. I know it's not the drug I intended to buy I have no idea what's in them I guess I'll just do them."
Just flush 'em. Save one to test for curiosity's sake.
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No drug ID requests, nobody will be able to accurately guess what you took.
Way too long for 2C-B by the way, unless you were thinking of the recent RC bk-2C-B.
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Maybe just give them to a homeless person who is in need.
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Nah, i'm gonna sit on them for a while and take them when I'm bored. Maybe I'll drop half a cap at work tomorrow and be a boss on the phones.
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Re: Got some bunk molly. [Re: Shiithead]
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That's kinda fucked up. Why would ppl smoke meth then if you can just eat it?
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Probably bioavailability. I know smoked is higher than snorted.
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Re: Got some bunk molly. [Re: Shroomslip]
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It also hits faster.
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fuckin meth heads...
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I don't do meth lol. But I do know smoking is the 2nd fastest method next to IV.
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Re: Got some bunk molly. [Re: The Moose]
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Yep sounds like Sass bro.
Definitely test that shit out next time broski. That's why I prefer to buy reputable presses over crystals or caps from sketchy people from random labs.
Anyway glad you still had fun
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Re: Got some bunk molly. [Re: Janky Tits]
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The worst part is that I can't even eat. I'm trying just chewing just feels so gross, swallowing is just ugh.
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Fuck it, eating is overrated anyways.
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No, its not. Its the type of thing that gets people killed. Because you could have killed them.
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Re: Got some bunk molly. [Re: twighead]
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that makes no sense.
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It's a folk remedy
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Re: Got some bunk molly. [Re: twighead]
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Re: Got some bunk molly. [Re: The Moose]
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The Moose said: I don't do meth lol. But I do know smoking is the 2nd fastest method next to IV.
I used to do meth and I remember reading somewhere that smoking it hits the brain faster then IV. Obviously you get a way bigger dose all at once when the IV hits but I am pretty sure when you smoke it it does hit the brain maybe a second or two quicker.
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I used to do meth and I remember reading somewhere that smoking it hits the brain faster then IV. Obviously you get a way bigger dose all at once when the IV hits but I am pretty sure when you smoke it it does hit the brain maybe a second or two quicker.
A second or two quicker folks
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I used to do meth and I remember reading somewhere that smoking it hits the brain faster then IV. Obviously you get a way bigger dose all at once when the IV hits but I am pretty sure when you smoke it it does hit the brain maybe a second or two quicker.
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BC care to weigh in? Is meth psychedelic? I have heard it is "magical" like molly the first few times
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I used to do meth and I remember reading somewhere that smoking it hits the brain faster then IV. Obviously you get a way bigger dose all at once when the IV hits but I am pretty sure when you smoke it it does hit the brain maybe a second or two quicker.
I was going to make fun of this post, but actually when you inject into a vein, that blood first passes through the lungs to get oxygenated so anything absorbed in the lungs does get to the brain faster than something injected into a vein.
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Re: Got some bunk molly. [Re: topdog82]
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My friends brother was way into psychedelics when he tried meth for the first and last time and said it was like a wave of all the colors of the rainbow shot across his field of vision. Idk though, I don't care to find out.
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Re: Got some bunk molly. [Re: Shiithead]
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Erowid says: General Effects Notes When methamphetamine is first used, the effects can often feel somewhat more like MDMA (Ecstasy) than a simple stimulant including a sense of euphoria, openness, and intellectual expansion. There can be a mild psychedelic component as the new user feels they see the world a little differently. The sensation of 'mind-expansion' and openness quickly fade after the first few uses and physical and mental stimulation dominate the experiential effects.
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Soooo it's more like "Meth: not even 5 times..."
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I used to do meth and I remember reading somewhere that smoking it hits the brain faster then IV. Obviously you get a way bigger dose all at once when the IV hits but I am pretty sure when you smoke it it does hit the brain maybe a second or two quicker.
I was going to make fun of this post, but actually when you inject into a vein, that blood first passes through the lungs to get oxygenated so anything absorbed in the lungs does get to the brain faster than something injected into a vein.
Fair. But at the very least it is the highest bio-availability you can get.
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Interesting...
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Interesting...
Fuck it then I'm just gonna start doing meth lol. I did a cap at work today and it made the day so much better. Smoking a bowl at lunch was the icing on top.
I wonder how long til I get fired lol.
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Interesting...
What's funny is meth used to be the only drug that made me feel like a hippy. The effects of meth have all the lovey dovey openness, anti anxiety and mind expanding properties of MDMA.
IV and plugged especially, the rush is like the best MDMA roll you have ever had but with raw animalistic pleasure. The way the world look on MDMA, the way the lights are super bright and everything is kind of blurry and shit, that is like meth on a high dose too.
The higher doses are relaxing and have the couch lock properties to me like MDMA. I always said molly and meth were very alike but meth has the molly effects all the time if you do the proper dose and ROA and for me at least the magic never dissapeared.
When I used to IV and plug large doses of meth I would be unable to walk for over an hour, my speech would slur and my eyes would twitch and I would have my vision blurred and the room would echoe and go insanely bright. It felt like the best MDMA roll to me but much better.
Meth > MDMA in terms of euphoria and it is not even close. I consider the rush of IV meth to feel like the intensity of a thousand orgasms but it lasts for an hour and a half and is head to toe and after the rush you go into ultra tweak mode but there is never any anxiety it is the only stimulant that truly makes you much more confident instead of sketched out.
I am done with that shit though but by far it blows MDMA out of the water.
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I used to do meth and I remember reading somewhere that smoking it hits the brain faster then IV. Obviously you get a way bigger dose all at once when the IV hits but I am pretty sure when you smoke it it does hit the brain maybe a second or two quicker.
I was going to make fun of this post, but actually when you inject into a vein, that blood first passes through the lungs to get oxygenated so anything absorbed in the lungs does get to the brain faster than something injected into a vein.
Fair. But at the very least it is the highest bio-availability you can get.
Oh yeah smoking is a terrible waste. Most of the drug gets exhaled.
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Smoking it is not a waste. 90 percent gets absorbed. More absorbs smoking then snorting. Plugging is like 99 percent.
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Interesting...
What's funny is meth used to be the only drug that made me feel like a hippy. The effects of meth have all the lovey dovey openness, anti anxiety and mind expanding properties of MDMA.
IV and plugged especially, the rush is like the best MDMA roll you have ever had but with raw animalistic pleasure. The way the world look on MDMA, the way the lights are super bright and everything is kind of blurry and shit, that is like meth on a high dose too.
The higher doses are relaxing and have the couch lock properties to me like MDMA. I always said molly and meth were very alike but meth has the molly effects all the time if you do the proper dose and ROA and for me at least the magic never dissapeared.
When I used to IV and plug large doses of meth I would be unable to walk for over an hour, my speech would slur and my eyes would twitch and I would have my vision blurred and the room would echoe and go insanely bright. It felt like the best MDMA roll to me but much better.
Meth > MDMA in terms of euphoria and it is not even close. I consider the rush of IV meth to feel like the intensity of a thousand orgasms but it lasts for an hour and a half and is head to toe and after the rush you go into ultra tweak mode but there is never any anxiety it is the only stimulant that truly makes you much more confident instead of sketched out.
I am done with that shit though but by far it blows MDMA out of the water.
have you tried IV MDMA? I am curious about it. Though I am too much of a pussy to IV. Seems gross to me
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Re: Got some bunk molly. [Re: topdog82]
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I have never IV'd MDMA.
I would shoot MDMA for sure if I acquired some but I have never done it.
MDMA is the most euphoric drug that exists that is not meth/crack/heroin though. A good MDMA roll and you shouldn't even be able to see straight and when you talk words just come out and you are just ooing and awwing in pleasure and your voice sounds heavingly and you are just sharing all these personal things and rubbing that pillow like it is the softest thing you ever felt. Someone who has done good MDMA knows this feeling it is amazing.
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You were talking about the lack of appetite, which is a definite signs of amps. Idk why you would ever take an unknown substance, or keep taking it, but good luck, man.
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Re: Got some bunk molly. [Re: topdog82]
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yeah meth can be quite psychedelic. i've gotten some cool visuals on meth.
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topdog82 said: BC care to weigh in? Is meth psychedelic? I have heard it is "magical" like molly the first few times
yeah meth can be quite psychedelic. i've gotten some cool visuals on meth.
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I would shoot MDMA for sure if I acquired some but I have never done it.
MDMA is the most euphoric drug that exists that is not meth/crack/heroin though. A good MDMA roll and you shouldn't even be able to see straight and when you talk words just come out and you are just ooing and awwing in pleasure and your voice sounds heavingly and you are just sharing all these personal things and rubbing that pillow like it is the softest thing you ever felt. Someone who has done good MDMA knows this feeling it is amazing.
I know that about MDMA. I know for a fact I never had proper mdma
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Re: Got some bunk molly. [Re: topdog82]
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Use a test kid bro!!!! It's like Russian roulete without on
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I am getting a proper MDMA roll via bitcoin net in a month or two
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Re: Got some bunk molly. [Re: topdog82]
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Rebelutionsssss said: Just one get a bunch
well ya that could also happen. The idea of neurotoxicty kinda scares me. Call me a pussy but I only want to roll a handful of times
But ya. Some people I know have rolled up to 400 times and they seem pretty fine. Who knows. It could all be propaganda. I figure I would get like 5-10 and stash them away for a while. MDMA pressies from amsterdam or something
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Re: Got some bunk molly. [Re: topdog82]
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MDMA is actually neurotoxic as hell though.
Look up MDMA serotonin axon damage.
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mollymadman said: So last night I bout 7 caps of supposed molly. The guy I bought it off said "it's the best I've ever done" "I took 2 caps and was rolling for 18 hours".
you thought he was 'exaggerating'?
dude, ive never even done MDMA, and i know that if one dose lasts longer than 8 hours, it probably isnt MDMA unless you took a massive overdose. 18 hours? that absurd. how could you possibly think you were buying MDMA?
you should do a little research on drugs before you try them
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Bitter Cactus said: MDMA is actually neurotoxic as hell though.
Look up MDMA serotonin axon damage.
Sasha shulgin said no more than 4 times a year. Neurosoup said no more than 5-10 times in a lifetime
And IMO, if you take ALA before, during, and after, while supplementing 5-htp and ltyrosine before and after, I think the comedown and general neurotoxicity could be diminised significantly
Also, the studies with MDMA are done at ridiculous amounts. Comparable to taking 10-20 pills of molly in a night. For example, I saw a study with cocaine and the axons being wiped out completely. My teacher told me that one line of cocaine did that to the dopamine axons. I just dont buy it
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Re: Got some bunk molly. [Re: topdog82]
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I'd say cocaine dose per dose is far less neurotoxic then MDMA.
MDMA loses the magic pretty fast and serotonin takes like a month to fully recover where as with meth or cocaine you are back up to normal in like a week. Those are rough estimates though, but one dose of MDMA left me pretty depressed for a week and I felt it for at least another week or two.
I always felt pretty normal after like a couple days rest after a meth binge. MDMA one dose leaves me feeling wonky much longer.
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Bitter Cactus said: I'd say cocaine dose per dose is far less neurotoxic then MDMA.
MDMA loses the magic pretty fast and serotonin takes like a month to fully recover where as with meth or cocaine you are back up to normal in like a week. Those are rough estimates though, but one dose of MDMA left me pretty depressed for a week and I felt it for at least another week or two.
I always felt pretty normal after like a couple days rest after a meth binge. MDMA one dose leaves me feeling wonky much longer.
Agreed. You mentioned this in another thread, but MDMA is pretty strong stuff. I hear things from both sides. Propganda saying it will ruin your existence. And then people rolling 100+ times and functioning at high levels
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Re: Got some bunk molly. [Re: topdog82]
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My MDMA dealer had to get put on SSRI's cause of MDMA abuse. Take that for what you will though.
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Bitter Cactus said: My MDMA dealer had to get put on SSRI's cause of MDMA abuse. Take that for what you will though.
I met a dude who popped E daily for a period of years. There are a lot of people on this forum who have done similar levels of abuse. I think it may b impossible to lead a normal life like that
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So what, like hang outside the local middle school and find some kid and be like "hey take this!" and then have him report what he feels?
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Re: Got some bunk molly. [Re: Shroomslip]
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So what, like hang outside the local middle school and find some kid and be like "hey take this!" and then have him report what he feels?
Who doesnt test thier drugs on playground children? Pussies dont...thats who
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Re: Got some bunk molly. [Re: topdog82]
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topdog82 said: Neurosoup said no more than 5-10 times in a lifetime
She also says only inject random chemicals into a teenager on LSD's balls once in a lifetime too!
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Re: Got some bunk molly. [Re: twighead]
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is there anything wrong with that number? IMO MDMA is strong. Even from the garbage quality molly I have done, I think below 20 is a good reccomendation
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Re: Got some bunk molly. [Re: topdog82]
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My friend that I used to do MDMA with, during a roll said he felt depressed the entire month after taking it and didn't know why he was taking it again.
I find it kind of dumbs you down and fucks up your concentration and hapinness levels. Neurotoxicity is tough to notice but I felt the emotional and dumbed down component of it for a long time.
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Re: Got some bunk molly. [Re: topdog82]
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I donno - I think it's case by case basis. I was just laughing at neurosoup cause she's such a fucked up fraud
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Re: Got some bunk molly. [Re: twighead]
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My buddy who used MDMA like every few weeks or so would take like 8 pills and not even get a good roll going and we were set from one or two caps.
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If MDMA was that horrible for you they wouldn't be using it for hundreds of PTSD patients
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koods said: Oh yeah smoking is a terrible waste. Most of the drug gets exhaled.
Smoking is very effective, % varies by the drug. Plugging is usually like 96% cuz IV is always top shit.
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Rebelutionsssss said: If MDMA was that horrible for you they wouldn't be using it for hundreds of PTSD patients

You aren't taking it every day for PTSD. One experience is all you need for it to help with PTSD. Repetitive use is not good with MDMA. I would recommend a few times a year at most.
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I agree that no way rolling every weekend is good for you. Maybe 5-6 times a year
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Rebelutionsssss said: I agree that no way rolling every weekend is good for you. Maybe 5-6 times a year
I think this is fair number. But IMO like I said earlier, I am a pussy. I am going to do it sub 10 times in my life But I am stuck between it having exagerrated damage (govt propaganda) and it being harmless (anecdotes)
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Re: Got some bunk molly. [Re: topdog82]
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Didnt read the whole thread but it sounds like op got 6-apb.
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