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Re: Got some bunk molly. [Re: Shiithead]
    #22236984 - 09/14/15 02:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Erowid says:
General Effects Notes
When methamphetamine is first used, the effects can often feel somewhat more like MDMA (Ecstasy) than a simple stimulant including a sense of euphoria, openness, and intellectual expansion. There can be a mild psychedelic component as the new user feels they see the world a little differently. The sensation of 'mind-expansion' and openness quickly fade after the first few uses and physical and mental stimulation dominate the experiential effects.

Interesting...


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Re: Got some bunk molly. [Re: topdog82] * 2
    #22237003 - 09/14/15 02:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Soooo it's more like "Meth: not even 5 times..."


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Re: Got some bunk molly. [Re: koods]
    #22237227 - 09/14/15 03:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I don't do meth lol. But I do know smoking is the 2nd fastest method next to IV.




I used to do meth and I remember reading somewhere that smoking it hits the brain faster then IV. Obviously you get a way bigger dose all at once when the IV hits but I am pretty sure when you smoke it it does hit the brain maybe a second or two quicker.




I was going to make fun of this post, but actually when you inject into a vein, that blood first passes through the lungs to get oxygenated so anything absorbed in the lungs does get to the brain faster than something injected into a vein.




Fair. But at the very least it is the highest bio-availability you can get.


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Re: Got some bunk molly. [Re: topdog82]
    #22238658 - 09/14/15 09:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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topdog82 said:
Erowid says:
General Effects Notes
When methamphetamine is first used, the effects can often feel somewhat more like MDMA (Ecstasy) than a simple stimulant including a sense of euphoria, openness, and intellectual expansion. There can be a mild psychedelic component as the new user feels they see the world a little differently. The sensation of 'mind-expansion' and openness quickly fade after the first few uses and physical and mental stimulation dominate the experiential effects.



Interesting...



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topdog82 said:
Erowid says:
General Effects Notes
When methamphetamine is first used, the effects can often feel somewhat more like MDMA (Ecstasy) than a simple stimulant including a sense of euphoria, openness, and intellectual expansion. There can be a mild psychedelic component as the new user feels they see the world a little differently. The sensation of 'mind-expansion' and openness quickly fade after the first few uses and physical and mental stimulation dominate the experiential effects.

Interesting...




Fuck it then I'm just gonna start doing meth lol. I did a cap at work today and it made the day so much better. Smoking a bowl at lunch was the icing on top.

I wonder how long til I get fired lol.


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Re: Got some bunk molly. [Re: mollymadman]
    #22238944 - 09/14/15 10:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Well! This probably isn't going to end well.  :shocking:


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Re: Got some bunk molly. [Re: topdog82]
    #22239022 - 09/14/15 10:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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topdog82 said:
Erowid says:
General Effects Notes
When methamphetamine is first used, the effects can often feel somewhat more like MDMA (Ecstasy) than a simple stimulant including a sense of euphoria, openness, and intellectual expansion. There can be a mild psychedelic component as the new user feels they see the world a little differently. The sensation of 'mind-expansion' and openness quickly fade after the first few uses and physical and mental stimulation dominate the experiential effects.

Interesting...




What's funny is meth used to be the only drug that made me feel like a hippy. The effects of meth have all the lovey dovey openness, anti anxiety and mind expanding properties of MDMA.

IV and plugged especially, the rush is like the best MDMA roll you have ever had but with raw animalistic pleasure. The way the world look on MDMA, the way the lights are super bright and everything is kind of blurry and shit, that is like meth on a high dose too.

The higher doses are relaxing and have the couch lock properties to me like MDMA. I always said molly and meth were very alike but meth has the molly effects all the time if you do the proper dose and ROA and for me at least the magic never dissapeared.

When I used to IV and plug large doses of meth I would be unable to walk for over an hour, my speech would slur and my eyes would twitch and I would have my vision blurred and the room would echoe and go insanely bright. It felt like the best MDMA roll to me but much better.

Meth > MDMA in terms of euphoria and it is not even close. I consider the rush of IV meth to feel like the intensity of a thousand orgasms but it lasts for an hour and a half and is head to toe and after the rush you go into ultra tweak mode but there is never any anxiety it is the only stimulant that truly makes you much more confident instead of sketched out.

I am done with that shit though but by far it blows MDMA out of the water.


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Re: Got some bunk molly. [Re: The Moose]
    #22239086 - 09/14/15 10:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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The Moose said:
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koods said:
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Bitter Cactus said:
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The Moose said:
I don't do meth lol. But I do know smoking is the 2nd fastest method next to IV.




I used to do meth and I remember reading somewhere that smoking it hits the brain faster then IV. Obviously you get a way bigger dose all at once when the IV hits but I am pretty sure when you smoke it it does hit the brain maybe a second or two quicker.




I was going to make fun of this post, but actually when you inject into a vein, that blood first passes through the lungs to get oxygenated so anything absorbed in the lungs does get to the brain faster than something injected into a vein.




Fair. But at the very least it is the highest bio-availability you can get.




Oh yeah smoking is a terrible waste. Most of the drug gets exhaled.


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Re: Got some bunk molly. [Re: koods]
    #22239114 - 09/14/15 10:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Smoking it is not a waste. 90 percent gets absorbed. More absorbs smoking then snorting. Plugging is like 99 percent.


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Re: Got some bunk molly. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22239262 - 09/14/15 11:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Erowid says:
General Effects Notes
When methamphetamine is first used, the effects can often feel somewhat more like MDMA (Ecstasy) than a simple stimulant including a sense of euphoria, openness, and intellectual expansion. There can be a mild psychedelic component as the new user feels they see the world a little differently. The sensation of 'mind-expansion' and openness quickly fade after the first few uses and physical and mental stimulation dominate the experiential effects.

Interesting...




What's funny is meth used to be the only drug that made me feel like a hippy. The effects of meth have all the lovey dovey openness, anti anxiety and mind expanding properties of MDMA.

IV and plugged especially, the rush is like the best MDMA roll you have ever had but with raw animalistic pleasure. The way the world look on MDMA, the way the lights are super bright and everything is kind of blurry and shit, that is like meth on a high dose too.

The higher doses are relaxing and have the couch lock properties to me like MDMA. I always said molly and meth were very alike but meth has the molly effects all the time if you do the proper dose and ROA and for me at least the magic never dissapeared.

When I used to IV and plug large doses of meth I would be unable to walk for over an hour, my speech would slur and my eyes would twitch and I would have my vision blurred and the room would echoe and go insanely bright. It felt like the best MDMA roll to me but much better.

Meth > MDMA in terms of euphoria and it is not even close. I consider the rush of IV meth to feel like the intensity of a thousand orgasms but it lasts for an hour and a half and is head to toe and after the rush you go into ultra tweak mode but there is never any anxiety it is the only stimulant that truly makes you much more confident instead of sketched out.

I am done with that shit though but by far it blows MDMA out of the water.



have you tried IV MDMA? I am curious about it. Though I am too much of a pussy to IV. Seems gross to me


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Re: Got some bunk molly. [Re: topdog82]
    #22239274 - 09/14/15 11:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I have never IV'd MDMA.

I would shoot MDMA for sure if I acquired some but I have never done it.

MDMA is the most euphoric drug that exists that is not meth/crack/heroin though. A good MDMA roll and you shouldn't even be able to see straight and when you talk words just come out and you are just ooing and awwing in pleasure and your voice sounds heavingly and you are just sharing all these personal things and rubbing that pillow like it is the softest thing you ever felt. Someone who has done good MDMA knows this feeling it is amazing.


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Re: Got some bunk molly. [Re: mollymadman]
    #22239283 - 09/14/15 11:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

You were talking about the lack of appetite, which is a definite signs of amps. Idk why you would ever take an unknown substance, or keep taking it, but good luck, man. :thumbup:


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Re: Got some bunk molly. [Re: topdog82]
    #22239286 - 09/14/15 11:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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BC care to weigh in? Is meth psychedelic? I have heard it is "magical" like molly the first few times




yeah meth can be quite psychedelic.  i've gotten some cool visuals on  meth.


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Re: Got some bunk molly. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22239305 - 09/15/15 12:02 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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topdog82 said:
BC care to weigh in? Is meth psychedelic? I have heard it is "magical" like molly the first few times




yeah meth can be quite psychedelic.  i've gotten some cool visuals on  meth.



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I have never IV'd MDMA.

I would shoot MDMA for sure if I acquired some but I have never done it.

MDMA is the most euphoric drug that exists that is not meth/crack/heroin though. A good MDMA roll and you shouldn't even be able to see straight and when you talk words just come out and you are just ooing and awwing in pleasure and your voice sounds heavingly and you are just sharing all these personal things and rubbing that pillow like it is the softest thing you ever felt. Someone who has done good MDMA knows this feeling it is amazing.



I know that about MDMA. I know for a fact I never had proper mdma

and thats quite interesting


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Re: Got some bunk molly. [Re: topdog82]
    #22239323 - 09/15/15 12:06 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Use a test kid bro!!!! It's like Russian roulete without on


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Re: Got some bunk molly. [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22239333 - 09/15/15 12:09 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Use a test kid bro!!!! It's like Russian roulete without on



I am getting a proper MDMA roll via bitcoin net in a month or two

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Re: Got some bunk molly. [Re: topdog82]
    #22239343 - 09/15/15 12:14 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Just one :lol: get a bunch


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Re: Got some bunk molly. [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22239355 - 09/15/15 12:17 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Just one :lol: get a bunch



well ya that could also happen. The idea of neurotoxicty kinda scares me. Call me a pussy but I only want to roll a handful of times

But ya. Some people I know have rolled up to 400 times and they seem pretty fine. Who knows. It could all be propaganda. I figure I would get like 5-10 and stash them away for a while. MDMA pressies from amsterdam or something

Do it with a special lady whenever I meet the one :laugh:


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Re: Got some bunk molly. [Re: topdog82]
    #22239357 - 09/15/15 12:18 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

MDMA is actually neurotoxic as hell though.

Look up MDMA serotonin axon damage.


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Re: Got some bunk molly. [Re: mollymadman]
    #22239371 - 09/15/15 12:22 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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So last night I bout 7 caps of supposed molly. The guy I bought it off said "it's the best I've ever done" "I took 2 caps and was rolling for 18 hours".




you thought he was 'exaggerating'?

dude, ive never even done MDMA, and i know that if one dose lasts longer than 8 hours, it probably isnt MDMA unless you took a massive overdose. 18 hours? that absurd. how could you possibly think you were buying MDMA?


you should do a little research on drugs before you try them


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Re: Got some bunk molly. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22239374 - 09/15/15 12:24 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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MDMA is actually neurotoxic as hell though.

Look up MDMA serotonin axon damage.



Sasha shulgin said no more than 4 times a year. Neurosoup said no more than 5-10 times in a lifetime

And IMO, if you take ALA before, during, and after, while supplementing 5-htp and ltyrosine before and after, I think the comedown and general neurotoxicity could be diminised significantly

Also, the studies with MDMA are done at ridiculous amounts. Comparable to taking 10-20 pills of molly in a night. For example, I saw a study with cocaine and the axons being wiped out completely. My teacher told me that one line of cocaine did that to the dopamine axons. I just dont buy it


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