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Fantastic Mr. Fox
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Re: 7+days no sign of Growth in jars [Re: MajickMuffin]
#22237521 - 09/14/15 04:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hah,
Seriously though, you can't inoculate bulk with sporess. They have a hard time germinating.
Now if it were LC you used, then it'd be a different story.
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Re: 7+days no sign of Growth in jars [Re: cronicr]
#22237619 - 09/14/15 05:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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cronicr said: pics? logs? links?
didn't think so
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MajickMuffin
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Re: 7+days no sign of Growth in jars [Re: cronicr]
#22237622 - 09/14/15 05:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Lol.
I will tell you my method.
I used a bag of pre-pasteurized Horseshit/straw, mixed it with Hydrated coco coir, added in a little guano, gypsym, then used Franks Proper Pasteurization tek.
Once cooled I knocked them up.
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Re: 7+days no sign of Growth in jars [Re: cronicr]
#22237624 - 09/14/15 05:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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cronicr said:
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cronicr said: pics? logs? links?
didn't think so
If you only would have waited one more fucking munite
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Re: 7+days no sign of Growth in jars [Re: cronicr]
#22237626 - 09/14/15 05:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: 7+days no sign of Growth in jars [Re: MajickMuffin]
#22237943 - 09/14/15 06:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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MajickMuffin said:
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cronicr said:

Lol.
I will tell you my method.
I used a bag of pre-pasteurized Horseshit/straw, mixed it with Hydrated coco coir, added in a little guano, gypsym, then used Franks Proper Pasteurization tek.
Once cooled I knocked them up.

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Re: 7+days no sign of Growth in jars [Re: cronicr]
#22238292 - 09/14/15 07:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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cronicr said:
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cronicr said: pics? logs? links?
didn't think so
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MajickMuffin
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Re: 7+days no sign of Growth in jars [Re: cronicr]
#22238306 - 09/14/15 07:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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cronicr said:
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cronicr said: pics? logs? links?
didn't think so

I dont see the point.
I explained everything I have done.
Im not sure why people here are all talking about a potential problem with my method. There should be absolutely no problems here with my methods used.
I was simply asking on the timeframe of MS syringes. Thanks everyone for the input.
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megatacular
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Re: 7+days no sign of Growth in jars [Re: MajickMuffin]
#22238350 - 09/14/15 07:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Some people are just assholes man. Especially ones that like to quote them selves twice in the same thread. I mean people come on here asking for help not for someone to tell them they're dead fucking wrong in everything they do and refuse to answer a simple question. I just followed a thread where a guy has been growing shit on fucking tortillas for gods sake. Ur method is as unorthodox as that for sure but if u say it works to ur liking so be it. What's a little cracked on the side but still works just fine don't fix it right?
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Re: 7+days no sign of Growth in jars [Re: MajickMuffin]
#22238357 - 09/14/15 07:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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bro seriously .i dont always agree with this guy but hes rite ur mix is fine but not for germing. put that shit 2 agar or grain then noc it its a fail as is .i c ur qs is how lng for ms germ but id say that also depends on what ur nocing IME AN ms to agar noc will b much fster than puttng it 2 that sub mix u got goin ya kno
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professorFATTYCAP said: bro seriously .i dont always agree with this guy but hes rite ur mix is fine but not for germing. put that shit 2 agar or grain then noc it its a fail as is
do u think if he used a confederate flag in the jars, it would germinate faster
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Re: 7+days no sign of Growth in jars [Re: MajickMuffin]
#22238399 - 09/14/15 08:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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People are going to be skeptical when you describe past success directly innoculating to a bulk substrate from a spore syringe. Not saying it's impossible but i don't recall ever seeing a grow log involving direct inoculation from a SS that worked out so it it is understandable when people think it could be your method rather than your spores that are the problem. On top of that you claimed to have used MS inoculation on bulk with good success in the past which would generally suggest that you would have more experience with spore germinating times on what could only be described as a highly questionable grow method than most people on here have never tried or tried and failed with it. But to answer your question 3-14 days would be normal depending on temperature for spores to germinate. Skeptical bunch on here when it comes to claims of a method used successfully that would be generally considered to be a guaranteed fail without some pictures to back it up. If it works for you thats great but many folks hear would love to see a documented grow where direct inoculation to bulk actually worked. Slart
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Re: 7+days no sign of Growth in jars [Re: blindingleaf]
#22238413 - 09/14/15 08:11 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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blindingleaf said:
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professorFATTYCAP said: bro seriously .i dont always agree with this guy but hes rite ur mix is fine but not for germing. put that shit 2 agar or grain then noc it its a fail as is
do u think if he used a confederate flag in the jars, it would germinate faster 
ok are we just talking stupid or are we havng a real discussion
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many people on here are unreasonable.
the GOOD people on here are not. they will see some crazy advice or method, and just wanna see pics. i don't think thats too much to ask 
its kind of silly to say "this is what i did, why isn't it working when it worked before?" and then when someone asks for pictures of how it worked before, to say "trust me, it worked, but i don't have pictures"
that is sketch science, and will be chewed out the ass on mush cult, and for the most part, rightly so.
most people won't say ur lying, but most will think it w/o documentation.
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slartibartfast said: People are going to be skeptical when you describe past success directly innoculating to a bulk substrate from a spore syringe. Not saying it's impossible but i don't recall ever seeing a grow log involving direct inoculation from a SS that worked out so it it is understandable when people think it could be your method rather than your spores that are the problem. On top of that you claimed to have used MS inoculation on bulk with good success in the past which would generally suggest that you would have more experience with spore germinating times on what could only be described as a highly questionable grow method than most people on here have never tried or tried and failed with it. But to answer your question 3-14 days would be normal depending on temperature for spores to germinate. Skeptical bunch on here when it comes to claims of a method used successfully that would be generally considered to be a guaranteed fail without some pictures to back it up. If it works for you thats great but many folks hear would love to see a documented grow where direct inoculation to bulk actually worked. Slart
See. Now that's an answer all the while beingpolite about explaining.why innocing.to bulk is tarded. Good job.
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Re: 7+days no sign of Growth in jars [Re: blindingleaf]
#22238476 - 09/14/15 08:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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agreed but i dont always hav pictures of the shit i do that i know wrks and i get shot dwn and called out often but ijust shrug it dude i know it wrks it dnt really matter on the big cuz its not like ur gettn worldwide recg and congrats for ur findings no one even knows who the fuk u are so why even bother posting anythng just do what wrks for u and who cares if people bleeve u or not
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megatacular
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Re: 7+days no sign of Growth in jars [Re: megatacular]
#22238485 - 09/14/15 08:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just don't enjoy the ridicule is all. I mean I said the same thing. I used to use ms before. Then decided enough was enough. So I made an account. Started some agar and am following rrs tek on grain prep and using coir/verm mix to star off.once I succeed I'll move on to bigger and betters. So far I think what I'm doing is easyest and fool proof.
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Re: 7+days no sign of Growth in jars [Re: MajickMuffin]
#22238489 - 09/14/15 08:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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MajickMuffin said:
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cronicr said:
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cronicr said:
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cronicr said: pics? logs? links?
didn't think so

I dont see the point.
I explained everything I have done.
Im not sure why people here are all talking about a potential problem with my method. There should be absolutely no problems here with my methods used.
I was simply asking on the timeframe of MS syringes. Thanks everyone for the input.
This guy here is having trouble himself, not trying to be a dick about it it's just the way it is, you are simply going about this in the wrong way, grains are our main nutrtion source and our foundation to a good grow, you are a prime example of why people on here are talking potential problems with this method, pasturizing a bulk substrate buys you about a 2 week window give or take and a pasturized sub is very good at fending off competing spores(cubes included) which is why we use mycelium, you guys can say what ya want but nobody is being mean here at all just pointing out the obvious
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Re: 7+days no sign of Growth in jars [Re: blindingleaf]
#22238529 - 09/14/15 08:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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blindingleaf said: many people on here are unreasonable.
the GOOD people on here are not. they will see some crazy advice or method, and just wanna see pics. i don't think thats too much to ask 
its kind of silly to say "this is what i did, why isn't it working when it worked before?" and then when someone asks for pictures of how it worked before, to say "trust me, it worked, but i don't have pictures"
that is sketch science, and will be chewed out the ass on mush cult, and for the most part, rightly so.
most people won't say ur lying, but most will think it w/o documentation.
That's not at all what happened here.
He asked for pics, he did not ask for pics of my past success.
I didn't say why isn't it working, I said its been this amount of time, what should I expect.
Temp is 65-70 that could be stalling it too.
Why are people calling it 'bulk suvstrate ' that's fucking retarded.
I listed the ingredients. I've used MS to colonize horseshit and straw. Straw spores can begin on
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megatacular
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Re: 7+days no sign of Growth in jars [Re: cronicr]
#22238537 - 09/14/15 08:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Know what? Ur right. My apologies. Well put cron. An attack is what it seemed like an attack on the poor guy. He's struggling as well but maybe someone needs to explain it in a different way is really all I'm saying
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