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Please Ease my Mind About Lights
    #22232721 - 09/13/15 05:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Out of the many things that cause stress in this hobby, nothing causes me more anxiety than lighting. Not whether I'm giving too much or too little light, it is the lights themselves that worry me.

When I'm at work, or out of town for a few days, I always worry about leaving grow lights on due to the potential fire hazard. I'm only using a few low wattage 6500k lights operated by a cheap timer, but I'm still haunted by visions of coming home to a charred house.

Can anyone with electrical experience shed any light (pun-intended) on the following:

-Is using a higher wattage bulb in a lower wattage fixture a big deal?

-Does wiring in an older house pose a greater risk of fire than a newer house?

-How often do fires occur from faulty electrical appliances?

I know that these thoughts are counter-productive, but I can't seem to shake them. Are there any particular lamps/timers/methods you could recommend that are known to be safer?


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Re: Please Ease my Mind About Lights [Re: Scrimshaw]
    #22232727 - 09/13/15 05:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

uhhhh there may be a better spot for this...let me check though


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Re: Please Ease my Mind About Lights [Re: cronicr]
    #22232737 - 09/13/15 05:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks. Feel free to move it if you think it's better suited elsewhere.

I just thought it might be something that concerns other cultivators due to light being such a big part of fruiting.


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Re: Please Ease my Mind About Lights [Re: Scrimshaw]
    #22232742 - 09/13/15 05:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

lights a small part....just saying lol


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Re: Please Ease my Mind About Lights [Re: cronicr]
    #22232766 - 09/13/15 05:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Im assuming you are using those fluorescent outdoor security bulbs.. they are low voltage consumers .. nothing is going to happen pulling 60watts.


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Re: Please Ease my Mind About Lights [Re: cronicr]
    #22232779 - 09/13/15 05:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I use a covered CFL lightbulb. It looks just like a traditional lightbulb, but it has one of the newer spiral designs contained within it.


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Re: Please Ease my Mind About Lights [Re: Scrimshaw]
    #22232901 - 09/13/15 05:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

youre good.. like leaving the desk lamp on, as long as nothing feels warm along the wiring ,, id  say you are ok..


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Re: Please Ease my Mind About Lights [Re: Scrimshaw]
    #22232915 - 09/13/15 05:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I gotta bunch of pets in tanks and what not and lots of lights and heat mats, I put everything on a good power bar with surge protection and a fuse. Your standard wall plugs are 15 amps and 110volts. Basically you can have 1800 true watts on a single wall plug. Now that's excessive but I easily put 1000 watts of power on a pair on one side of the wall with my stereo and what not on the other pair in the room. Now under the lights near the hottest spot I have temp probe thermostats that will cut all power if it get over a preset temp. Using a higher watt bulb in a lower rated socket isn't the best idea but IME if the socket is ceramic it will handle a little higher day a 100 in a 75. But of its a cardboard socket or plastic it could be a fire hazard. Wiring in an older house could pose a problem but I doubt you live in a house that is old enough for it to be a problem. I'm not an electrician just experienced building my own fixtures from scratch more or less.


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Re: Please Ease my Mind About Lights [Re: PabloSumgie]
    #22232952 - 09/13/15 05:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks Pablo. That's great information to know.

Some of these bulbs say things like 75w replacement uses only 20w. So can I get away with running this 75w bulb in a 60w recommended fixture if it's only using 20w?


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Re: Please Ease my Mind About Lights [Re: Scrimshaw]
    #22233025 - 09/13/15 06:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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-Is using a higher wattage bulb in a lower wattage fixture a big deal?





yes, it will cause the fixture to become hotter then it is designed to be.
if the fixture is on a stack of old porn mags from the 60s that might be a fire hazard.
in most normal situations though it means the bulb is going to stop working sooner then it is supposed to.
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-Does wiring in an older house pose a greater risk of fire than a newer house?




i don't think adding a single low wattage bulb is going to change much about
the overall situation.
if you are not already worried about it, this should not cause any concern.
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-How often do fires occur from faulty electrical appliances?




usually faulty appliances simply stop working when they break.
in the worst case it causes a short circuit which, assuming you have a proper fuse box,
will simply blow a fuse.

it is faulty handling of electrical appliances that starts most fires.
stupid things like leaving electrical things where they can get whet.
or putting a blanket on a heater and forgetting about it.
or using a spool of cable without unwinding it.

really it is a matter of common sense.



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Some of these bulbs say things like 75w replacement uses only 20w. So can I get away with running this 75w bulb in a 60w recommended fixture if it's only using 20w?




well the watt rating of the fixture refers to how much energy it takes before the fixture becomes hotter then recommended.
i'm not sure how cfl compares to regular bulbs in terms of heat, but i don't think you can take the first number 1-1.
in any case try it and see how hot the fixture becomes. if it is very hot it will diminish the lifespan of the bulb.


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Re: Please Ease my Mind About Lights [Re: DaveyJones6911]
    #22233873 - 09/13/15 08:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

You can a CFL bulb that says 25w=50w or whatever is actually using the firstb25w number. So if you have a socket rated for 100w you can put a 100=whatever bulb in there and have no problems. Also sockets are rated for standard incandescent bulbs which I'm looking at a forty watt right now temp gun says 233f at the glass and a CFL same what is 198f at the glass.


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Alright then, picture this if you will:
10 to 2 AM, X, Yogi DMT, and a box of Krispy Kremes, in my "need to know" post, just outside of Area 51.
Contemplating the whole "chosen people" thing with just a flaming stealth banana split the sky like one would hope but never really expect to see in a place like this.
Cutting right angle donuts on a dime and stopping right at my Birkenstocks, and me yelping...
Holy fucking shit!


Edited by PabloSumgie (09/13/15 08:17 PM)


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Re: Please Ease my Mind About Lights [Re: DaveyJones6911]
    #22233918 - 09/13/15 08:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Please Ease my Mind About Lights [Re: GoblinKing]
    #22234031 - 09/13/15 08:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Led strips 6500k on amazon for like twenty bucks long ass role you can cut. No heat at all really. That's the safest.


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Alright then, picture this if you will:
10 to 2 AM, X, Yogi DMT, and a box of Krispy Kremes, in my "need to know" post, just outside of Area 51.
Contemplating the whole "chosen people" thing with just a flaming stealth banana split the sky like one would hope but never really expect to see in a place like this.
Cutting right angle donuts on a dime and stopping right at my Birkenstocks, and me yelping...
Holy fucking shit!


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Re: Please Ease my Mind About Lights [Re: Scrimshaw]
    #22234635 - 09/13/15 09:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Scrimshaw said:

Some of these bulbs say things like 75w replacement uses only 20w. So can I get away with running this 75w bulb in a 60w recommended fixture if it's only using 20w?



The 75 watt replacement means the lumen output of that 20 watt cfl is equal to a 75 watt incandescent. CFLs are more efficient and run cooler than an incandescent. That 60 watt socket is rated to handle three times more than your 20 watt bulb.


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Re: Please Ease my Mind About Lights [Re: NDStepp84]
    #22235376 - 09/14/15 04:28 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

my last place was very old.  even blew out two sockets when i was there.  too much shit attached to the same circuit with an old old fridge.  no fire.

do u leave ur coffee maker plugged in when ur at work?  ur alarm clock?  ur phone charger? its no different.

DONT humidify a room with electrical outlets.  if ur growing with tubs, that is easy.

u can always use ambient window light if ur really getting scared too.


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Re: Please Ease my Mind About Lights [Re: blindingleaf]
    #22235489 - 09/14/15 06:21 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I use two 100 watt cfl bulbs in my walk in closet and I've fruited quite a bit. No bent or sagging fruits. No pale caps. Seems to work just fine for me. Not that I know a lot just giving my two cents


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Re: Please Ease my Mind About Lights [Re: NDStepp84]
    #22235713 - 09/14/15 09:08 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

the fixture is rated for heat not consumption.

if it is mushrooms you are growing though, i would say 50-100 lumens should be enough light
to keep them vertical. change the bulb to a 8 = 40 watt cfl bulb.
it will provide some 800 lumens. more then enough light and should be cool enough
that the fixture will never become uncomfortable to touch.


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Re: Please Ease my Mind About Lights [Re: DaveyJones6911]
    #22235768 - 09/14/15 09:32 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

You would wig out growing weed man lol having powerful grow lights on when I'm not home sketches me out a bit too but a few CFL's is nothing.


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Re: Please Ease my Mind About Lights [Re: DaveyJones6911]
    #22235871 - 09/14/15 10:10 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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DaveyJones6911 said:
the fixture is rated for heat not consumption.

if it is mushrooms you are growing though, i would say 50-100 lumens should be enough light
to keep them vertical. change the bulb to a 8 = 40 watt cfl bulb.
it will provide some 800 lumens. more then enough light and should be cool enough
that the fixture will never become uncomfortable to touch.



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Re: Please Ease my Mind About Lights [Re: NDStepp84]
    #22235884 - 09/14/15 10:14 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

You're the dude?


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Re: Please Ease my Mind About Lights [Re: PussyFart]
    #22235890 - 09/14/15 10:17 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

mark it 8 dude.


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    #22235920 - 09/14/15 10:23 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I am not the the Dude, the Dude is out there taking it easy for all us sinners. I am but a follower of Dudeism.


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    #22235922 - 09/14/15 10:23 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

the dude abides


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    #22235926 - 09/14/15 10:24 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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the dude abides



Amen brother


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Re: Please Ease my Mind About Lights [Re: NDStepp84]
    #22236152 - 09/14/15 11:22 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Lol. Right. Oooooonn. Now ask me about ro di and distilled water. I'm not a reef keeper or anything. Lol or direct current cause Im not a certifired mobile electronics install tech. Or ironwork or pipe or even chemical processing cause I'm certainly not an operator for Dow. Lol c Mon. I got all day. Oh yeah I power wash too.
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Re: Please Ease my Mind About Lights [Re: NDStepp84]
    #22236224 - 09/14/15 11:39 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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wowimflabbergasted said:
You would wig out growing weed man lol having powerful grow lights on when I'm not home sketches me out a bit too but a few CFL's is nothing.




i wouldn't wig out, i would do the math. :P

and like i said before it is a matter of bulb lifespan and potentially
burning yourself on a hot fixture. i agree that 1 cfl will not make much of a difference.

Quote:

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Quote:

DaveyJones6911 said:
the fixture is rated for heat not consumption.

if it is mushrooms you are growing though, i would say 50-100 lumens should be enough light
to keep them vertical. change the bulb to a 8 = 40 watt cfl bulb.
it will provide some 800 lumens. more then enough light and should be cool enough
that the fixture will never become uncomfortable to touch.



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i'm not saying watt is a measurement of heat, i am saying that a light fixtures ability to handle and dissipate heat is the prime
consideration in providing it with a watt rating.
a unit chosen for the simple reasons that it is the unit we use for the bulbs, and that makes it easy to know which bulb to chose.


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Re: Please Ease my Mind About Lights [Re: DaveyJones6911]
    #22236247 - 09/14/15 11:43 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Walmart does have 48" t8 two bulb fixtures for 15 buck.ballasts included. Just saying. Way more than enough light for any grow.


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Re: Please Ease my Mind About Lights [Re: DaveyJones6911]
    #22236621 - 09/14/15 01:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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i'm not saying watt is a measurement of heat, i am saying that a light fixtures ability to handle and dissipate heat is the prime
consideration in providing it with a watt rating.
a unit chosen for the simple reasons that it is the unit we use for the bulbs, and that makes it easy to know which bulb to chose.



Ok, I see what you mean now, my bad, I thought you meant wattage meant heat. Lol.
The socket's wattage is based on the size of the wiring within the lamp, the thickness of the conductors that pass the current to the bulb, and the temperature that the socket can withstand based on this and materials used for the socket. The main point here is any UL listed E26 socket lamp should have no problem running a petty 20 watt cfl. Watts/lumens are not that important to mushrooms as much as the correct spectrum. BTW if I come off like an ass hole that is not my intent, I just enjoy a good debate:thumbup:


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Re: Please Ease my Mind About Lights [Re: NDStepp84]
    #22236661 - 09/14/15 01:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So long story short look for continuous amperage consumption of the device.(anything.plugged into a wall socket). If its under 15 amps its good. Over is bad.


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Re: Please Ease my Mind About Lights [Re: megatacular]
    #22237288 - 09/14/15 03:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

You should be okay if using a CFL.... However, it is generally smart not to use a bulb rated higher than recommened for it's fixture. This is because of possible overheating issues. After it's own for 12 hours feel the fixture and see if it's overly warm... if you are concerned get a new fixture. I use 30watt CFL's (Equivalent to 60watt incandescents)

I also gave some big as 300watt (600w uquiv)2700K CFLS for flowering plants. I use those round, clip on shoplights for fixtures. They get a little warm but not enough to worry me.

Another thing, I have used anywhere from 5000K - 8000K both CFLS and tubes for fruiting fungi and the work great. 6500 is suppose to be ideal. 12/12.............:thumbup:


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