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Healthy mycelium?
    #22230787 - 09/13/15 10:05 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

12 days after inoculation does this look like healthy mycelium growth ?



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Re: Healthy mycelium? [Re: NewToCultivation]
    #22230875 - 09/13/15 10:19 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:thumbup: Looks good to me


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Re: Healthy mycelium? [Re: jbaby007]
    #22230878 - 09/13/15 10:20 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

It looks like you didn't take the foil off
-10 points, not following directions


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Re: Healthy mycelium? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #22230909 - 09/13/15 10:24 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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It looks like you didn't take the foil off
-10 points, not following directions



What??? Not taking points for regular mouth 1/2 pint jars?
-5 points for bodhisatta, incomplete criticism.

But, yeah... everything looks good from that angle. Keep up the good work!


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Re: Healthy mycelium? [Re: WolfieNuke]
    #22230925 - 09/13/15 10:27 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Hah I've only ever used the tall half pints. +5 nuke, nice shot.


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Re: Healthy mycelium? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #22230979 - 09/13/15 10:37 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I read mixed opinions on leaving foil on or off I'm just taking extra precautions , it's my first grow


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Re: Healthy mycelium? [Re: NewToCultivation]
    #22230993 - 09/13/15 10:41 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Extra precautions are removed foil.
Dry verm barrier is wet after sterilization. Remove foil so it can dry and act as a filter. Wet verm can contaminate.
If people say leave foil on their either using a glass with no lid and this the foil is the lid and has 4 holes. Or they're idiots that make guesses based on assumption of how things should work not how they actually work.


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Re: Healthy mycelium? [Re: NewToCultivation]
    #22231021 - 09/13/15 10:48 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I read mixed opinions on leaving foil on or off I'm just taking extra precautions , it's my first grow



Well, "NewToCultivation"... you can be assured. Take the foil off... The tall 1/2 pints have issues with stalling as it is, and you don't want to add to the problem by cutting off gas exchange through the lid. Mushrooms use oxygen during colonization, and will stall if there is no more oxygen in the jar.

The dry vermiculite layer is the filter in the PF Tek method. You need to remove the foil now, or you'll just realize your mistake and take the foil off later. Either way, it's coming off...

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If people say leave foil on their either using a glass with no lid and this the foil is the lid and has 4 holes.



Yes, that should be the only time you leave foil on...
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Re: Healthy mycelium? [Re: WolfieNuke]
    #22231031 - 09/13/15 10:51 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So by removing the foil the mycelium growth should speed up?


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Re: Healthy mycelium? [Re: NewToCultivation]
    #22231037 - 09/13/15 10:52 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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So by removing the foil the mycelium growth should speed up?



No, it just won't slow down growth or stall because of lack of gas exchange (GE).

But, yes... I'm just being an ass. It will help speed up growth if you want to think of it that way.


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Re: Healthy mycelium? [Re: WolfieNuke]
    #22231062 - 09/13/15 10:57 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

at any point in time do I have to worry about the substrate drying up ? I mean if there's constant air exchange after I take the foil off


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Re: Healthy mycelium? [Re: NewToCultivation]
    #22231123 - 09/13/15 11:08 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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at any point in time do I have to worry about the substrate drying up ? I mean if there's constant air exchange after I take the foil off



There should be enough moisture to carry it through until full colonization if you followed the tek properly...

2:1:1 ratio (Vermiculite/BRF/Water)

After 100% colonization and a 7 day consolidation, a dunk and roll will rehydrate the cakes. It is a tried and tested recipe that works very well.


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Re: Healthy mycelium? [Re: WolfieNuke]
    #22231131 - 09/13/15 11:10 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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So by removing the foil the mycelium growth should speed up?



No, it just won't slow down growth or stall because of lack of gas exchange (GE).



Wrong, the foil does not hinder GE in the least bit.....

The foil is only for sterilization, so water droplets cannot fall into your holes and ruin your dry verm layer.

Leaving the foil on afterwards can lead to a moist verm layer, which will invite contams in.

We remove the foil after sterilization so the dry verm layer can remain dry and effective.


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Re: Healthy mycelium? [Re: PussyFart]
    #22231174 - 09/13/15 11:18 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Wrong, the foil does not hinder GE in the least bit.....



I don't know how that is true... Foil in impermeable to air/moisture/light/etc... Damn near nothing can get through it other than sound/radiation/heat... There may be slight GE if the foil is on loosely, but probably negligible.

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The foil is only for sterilization, so water droplets cannot fall into your holes and ruin your dry verm layer.

Leaving the foil on afterwards can lead to a moist verm layer, which will invite contams in.

We remove the foil after sterilization so the dry verm layer can remain dry and effective.



But, everything else you said is true... I think we are in agreement though.


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Re: Healthy mycelium? [Re: WolfieNuke]
    #22231190 - 09/13/15 11:21 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

You actually think the foil seals the top of the jar airtight?


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Re: Healthy mycelium? [Re: NewToCultivation]
    #22231204 - 09/13/15 11:23 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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if the foil is on loosely



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Re: Healthy mycelium? [Re: WolfieNuke]
    #22231208 - 09/13/15 11:24 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I guess I'll quote myself...
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There may be slight GE if the foil is on loosely, but probably negligible.




Never said "airtight"... And, no... If there is a labyrinth of twists and turns, there will be large restriction of GE, and I think it is enough to prevent the proper amount of GE.

Reasoning aside, we agree that the foil should be removed. I don't feel the need to argue semantics if the result is the same action.


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Re: Healthy mycelium? [Re: WolfieNuke]
    #22231250 - 09/13/15 11:33 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

even if you rubber banded the foil down it would still get enough gas exchange, you would have to use a few rubber bands or a really really strong one to cut off gas exchange, but that's not really the point at all.


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Re: Healthy mycelium? [Re: WolfieNuke]
    #22231259 - 09/13/15 11:35 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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And, no... If there is a labyrinth of twists and turns, there will be large restriction of GE, and I think it is enough to prevent the proper amount of GE.



But it's not, just so u know.....

Some people use 2 layers of micropore tape over their inoc holes and still get good, fast growth.....


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