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Re: Total Power Exchange = Natural Human Male/Female Dynamic [Re: lillFish] 1
#22238054 - 09/14/15 06:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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oh God. there is a power dynamic in relationships. it has nothing to do with gender.
God OP. Good God, pathetic.
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Re: Total Power Exchange = Natural Human Male/Female Dynamic [Re: Mr. Material]
#22238161 - 09/14/15 07:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mr. Material said:
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Mr. Material said: http://www.enslavement.org.uk/
I'd prefer to be a subslave bitch from a dominant women.
Then be happy as a piece of human furniture. 
I've talked to many 'Dommes' and they all have their "alpha" subs.
If you are a worm, enjoy being a worm.
hmm furniture sounds kinda boring
yep petplay's nice
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Re: Total Power Exchange = Natural Human Male/Female Dynamic [Re: lillFish]
#22238367 - 09/14/15 07:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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lillFish said: From a woman's perspective, I see what you are saying. I do find that I want that, to an extent.
Do you believe in gender roles?
Let's pretend that you became Mrs. Material.
I would divde the chores.
I would do all of the hard dirty outside work, you - all of the inside work.
There would be no rent to pay, as I would already own property.
So we would be financially secure and you would be busy with assignments.
These assignments would all serve a greater purpose, and Mrs. Material would just have to believe in this.
How does that sound?
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Re: Total Power Exchange = Natural Human Male/Female Dynamic [Re: Mr. Material]
#22238374 - 09/14/15 08:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've thought long and hard about this, and I have come to the conclusion that the only way having a LTR would work for me, is if it was a relationship based off of a total power exchange.
It would have to be someone very special though. If she wants to be with me she has to be willing to live her life in absolute, and complete submission.
Like clay in a potters hand, I would shape her into someone she never knew she could be.
I've seen several kinds of BDSM relationships in real life.
I knew a guy that turned his girlfriend into a real life sex doll. It was kind of scary because when you looked in her eyes it was hard to see if anyone was there. She was totally broken. He would lock her in a closet for hours at a time, and let other men "borrow her" for several days. It really bothered me, but I knew that it was consensual so I had to respect their lifestyle choice. If I had to, I would classify this relationship as a Owner/object one - rather that Dominant/submissive one.
Another guy I knew, had the traditional Master/slave dynamic. He treated her well, but his relationship started to crumble when he started falling in love with her. This ruined the dynamic and she started really getting turned off by the guy. She was way out of his league. She was a very professional model, and he was a unemployed average joe. I think he freaked out because it was too good to be true, you know? He eventually lost control of the relationship and she wound up with this fat, old disgusting British guy.
I learned a lot from watching this guy fail.
I have seen a few other kinds of BDSM relationships, some of them were very positive and healthy and some were very dark and scary.
If I had to classify the dynamic I'm after, it would be one of a Teacher/student.
I would teach her about the world, and about herself.
Ultimately, she would teach me about myself as well; since she would be a direct reflection of my guidance.
It sounds scary, but what relationship isn't to some degree?
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Re: Total Power Exchange = Natural Human Male/Female Dynamic [Re: Mr. Material] 2
#22238400 - 09/14/15 08:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mr. Material said: If she wants to be with me she has to be willing to live her life in absolute, and complete submission.
I've seen several kinds of BDSM relationships in real life.
I knew a guy that turned his girlfriend into a real life sex doll. It was kind of scary because when you looked in her eyes it was hard to see if anyone was there. She was totally broken. He would lock her in a closet for hours at a time, and let other men "borrow her" for several days.
Are you and that guy both serial killers?
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Re: Total Power Exchange = Natural Human Male/Female Dynamic [Re: Sheekle]
#22238427 - 09/14/15 08:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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For someone that supposedly takes psychadelic drugs, you're really closed minded.
Maybe you're just a sensitive hippie.
Can you try to think outside of the box for a bit?
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Re: Total Power Exchange = Natural Human Male/Female Dynamic [Re: Sheekle]
#22238450 - 09/14/15 08:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mr. Material said: If she wants to be with me she has to be willing to live her life in absolute, and complete submission.
I've seen several kinds of BDSM relationships in real life.
I knew a guy that turned his girlfriend into a real life sex doll. It was kind of scary because when you looked in her eyes it was hard to see if anyone was there. She was totally broken. He would lock her in a closet for hours at a time, and let other men "borrow her" for several days.
Are you and that guy both serial killers?
yeah that's what I thought too different strokes for different folks... but thats severely fucked up that chick sounds like she was far from ok
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Re: Total Power Exchange = Natural Human Male/Female Dynamic [Re: akira_akuma]
#22238457 - 09/14/15 08:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: oh God. there is a power dynamic in relationships. it has nothing to do with gender.
Prove it.
The reason why most people have power struggles is because of resources (money).
Usually one partner will make more than the other, and if they have equal power and inequal responsibility people will get frustrated.
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Re: Total Power Exchange = Natural Human Male/Female Dynamic [Re: Ezuma]
#22238462 - 09/14/15 08:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah that's what I thought too different strokes for different folks... but thats severely fucked up that chick sounds like she was far from ok
Yes, like I said - that was an example of power abused.
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Re: Total Power Exchange = Natural Human Male/Female Dynamic [Re: Mr. Material]
#22238491 - 09/14/15 08:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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ok then i see what you're saying. still, I don't see whats wrong with a relationship of equals
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Re: Total Power Exchange = Natural Human Male/Female Dynamic [Re: Ezuma]
#22238534 - 09/14/15 08:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ezuma said: ok then i see what you're saying. still, I don't see whats wrong with a relationship of equals
The problem comes with equal power and inequal responsibility.
One party usually becomes frustrated with the other and leaves.
If a man held the stress of all of the responsibility he inexorably holds all of the power. Now it is his choice to split that power 50/50, between himself and his partner.
I haven't seen this relationship model work. Usually the man will begin to resent his partner and feel entitled to cheat or take a mistress.
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Re: Total Power Exchange = Natural Human Male/Female Dynamic [Re: Mr. Material] 1
#22238562 - 09/14/15 08:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah, because they're human. of course if someone submits to being your's then you'll be more satisfied. but that's not what relationships are about. they're about dealing with each other, and if you can't then it's because you suck, not because one or the other are not following some preordained system of rule, or "power" as you call it.
there are no rules. just power plays. you can play the victim all you want though, OP.
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Re: Total Power Exchange = Natural Human Male/Female Dynamic [Re: akira_akuma] 2
#22238634 - 09/14/15 08:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Slightly concerned OP is going to kill a woman at some point in his life and probably already has.
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Re: Total Power Exchange = Natural Human Male/Female Dynamic [Re: SARAtonin]
#22238650 - 09/14/15 09:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: yeah, because they're human. of course if someone submits to being your's then you'll be more satisfied. but that's not what relationships are about. they're about dealing with each other, and if you can't then it's because you suck, not because one or the other are not following some preordained system of rule, or "power" as you call it.
there are no rules. just power plays. you can play the victim all you want though, OP.
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SARAtonin said: Slightly concerned OP is going to kill a woman at some point in his life and probably already has.
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Re: Total Power Exchange = Natural Human Male/Female Dynamic [Re: Mr. Material]
#22238670 - 09/14/15 09:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah no i totally disagree then you're basically dealing with a useless child of a woman, and to me, that would get old reeeeally reaaally fast. the best relationships i've seen are the ones where responsibility is shared the most thoroughly. sure no one's perfect. but giving 100% of the responsibility to one member just seems reeeeeally stupid
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Re: Total Power Exchange = Natural Human Male/Female Dynamic [Re: Mr. Material] 1
#22238745 - 09/14/15 09:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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good lord, what twits people have to deal with these days.
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Re: Total Power Exchange = Natural Human Male/Female Dynamic [Re: Ezuma] 1
#22238755 - 09/14/15 09:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ezuma said: yeah no i totally disagree then you're basically dealing with a useless child of a woman, and to me, that would get old reeeeally reaaally fast.
but he's talking about owning up to his "manhood" by incorporating a women into his life, for it's entirety, in order to have an idiot child by his side at all times, whom he can fuck and than put all the work of the child on if they have one, so he can be 100% in his manliness.
not stupid at all.
but me and you and normal people, we like to have relationships.
but him, he wants his freedom. dare i say, his right as a man. to be as manipulative as possible and get his just rewards for it.
he's cunning, is all.
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Re: Total Power Exchange = Natural Human Male/Female Dynamic [Re: makaveli8x8] 1
#22238782 - 09/14/15 09:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes he was. Half the people that responded in that thread are convinced he's either currently, or preparing to be a rapist.
you better choose your words carefully son, I told you last night and im going to tell you again you don't get to slander me. The thread was a debate on if it should become "legal", therefor you have zero basis for putting that label on me, you aren't funny, it isn't a joke, and if your such a pansy about the topic as you claim to be, you wouldn't be slinging it around so casually. Incase you didn't know calling someone a rapist in the pub is serious business, a line shroomery.com won't even cross.
  
You better choose your words carefully bro, he's gonna backtrace you.
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Re: Total Power Exchange = Natural Human Male/Female Dynamic [Re: akira_akuma]
#22238802 - 09/14/15 09:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ezuma said: yeah no i totally disagree then you're basically dealing with a useless child of a woman, and to me, that would get old reeeeally reaaally fast.
but he's talking about owning up to his "manhood" by incorporating a women into his life, for it's entirety, in order to have an idiot child by his side at all times, whom he can fuck and than put all the work of the child on if they have one, so he can be 100% in his manliness.
not stupid at all.
but me and you and normal people, we like to have relationships.
but him, he wants his freedom. dare i say, his right as a man. to be as manipulative as possible and get his just rewards for it.
he's cunning, is all.
Do you even read my responses?
You must be psychic right?
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Re: Total Power Exchange = Natural Human Male/Female Dynamic [Re: akira_akuma]
#22238815 - 09/14/15 09:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: yeah, because they're human. of course if someone submits to being your's then you'll be more satisfied. but that's not what relationships are about. they're about dealing with each other, and if you can't then it's because you suck, not because one or the other are not following some preordained system of rule, or "power" as you call it.
there are no rules. just power plays. you can play the victim all you want though, OP.
I'm not talking about relationships. I'm talking about total power exchange.
You think that something that has been around as long as humanity, is "wrong" simply because it isn't the current model accepted in this current society.
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