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Re: Total Power Exchange = Natural Human Male/Female Dynamic [Re: twighead]
    #22239460 - 09/15/15 12:55 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Here's an illustration of a functional Total Power Exchange relationship






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Re: Total Power Exchange = Natural Human Male/Female Dynamic [Re: Mr. Material]
    #22239482 - 09/15/15 01:10 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Tell me, where does the line between nature and manmade constructs lie exactly in your opinion?




These are my favorite types of questions.

This has been an ongoing revelation for me.

For instance, women want financial security.

If you make less money, or you're unemployed SHE WILL BEGIN TO RESENT YOU and you WILL start having problems!

I seen this first hand straight out of highschool (which was an all male correctional facility - I didn't have the social experience most of you gentlmen had in highschool. :lol: ) when I attended a trade school. Most of the men were unemployed and I would say 75% of them got divorced because of their unemployment.

It's sad because a few of these guys supported their wives and paid for them to go through college.

I know that there is ALWAYS and exception, but I'm not talking about exceptions. I'm speaking in general.

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Also, is it wise to seek the counsel of someone who admits to being traumatized by their own sexual desire?




Yes. At least that person is honest! I'm literally laughing at how sensitive the forum has become. We're able to talk about ego death without blinking - but I bring up TPE and people flip and call me a mysoginist!


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I like how you posted an old school stylish gentleman OP, thanks for reinforcing the halarious fedora stereotype that MRAs have.




Dude, I have no clue what MRA, MGTOW is and I don't use reddit. I don't like pick up artists. I think that pick up artists are a part of the problem! If you're a man, and you're not interested in a relationship - why not tell women upfront? Why lie and fuck with them?

In my opinion, that's unhealthy. 

Dude, if I hated women or didn't want a long term relationship I wouldn't be this pissed. I would just continue on the path I'm on, hooking up with 20 something year olds and fucking strippers WELL INTO MY 50's!


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Maybe, just maybe, the problems you have with women have to do with more than just feminism.  I don't know you, but it seems prudent to admit that you're imperfect yourself before you blame others.




My prroblem isn't with women. It's society. I love women.

I can't get enough of them. I even like talking to them and stuff. :lol:

My hatred comes from this idea of monogamy and marriage that is from the church.

I hate ideas, not people.

I hate the idea that 1 man has to work his whole life to find that 1 woman.

I hate the idea of what we men would call "slut".

If a woman has an insatiable sexual appetite how is that a bad thing? :lol:

Oh, it's because she wants to be with other dudes? Yeah, I used to have that problem too - then I realized that the problem isn't the girl - it's our brainwashed EXPECTATIONS.

I hate the idea of expectations.

I hate that society expects people that stay with each other to get "married" after a certain amount of time when it clearly doesn't work.

Just look at the divorce rates.

The healthiest and longest lasting relationship I've ever seen was in D/s.

The guy took care of everything. EVERYTHING.

He paid for all of her needs, and trained her for years.

When I first met her, she was obese and now she looks amazing.

They look happy and they don't have 'normal' relationship problems.

This is the only functional relationship that I've seen in my life.

I wasn't exposed to many successful vanilla relationships and I honestly think that they are a societal construct. They are artificial.

If we woke up tomorrow and the world was MAD MAX, your girlfriend WILL LEAVE YOU if you can't handle your business.

I think this is why I've only fucked other guys girlfriends. They would approach me when they wanted to get it good. It used to bother me but now I've accepted this reality and realize that it's THE NATURAL ORDER OF THINGS!



I can tell you from my 42 years of life experience... you are absolutely right.

My wife & I are not in a vanilla relationship, and I credit that to part of the reason it has worked out so well. I can see this with other people I know too. My friends who are vanilla let their women walk all over them and are miserable IF they haven't been left for someone who can handle them yet.

The people who don't get it in this thread, frankly, I'm convinced they are all too young and inexperienced to know it yet.


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Re: Total Power Exchange = Natural Human Male/Female Dynamic [Re: D.M.T] * 1
    #22239487 - 09/15/15 01:12 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

who doesn't get what we're talking about here?

i've said it before, people in love may well kill each other.

there is always a power struggle in every relationship. every.

so again, who isn't it getting it here? i see no one. :shrug:

PS: i didn't see OP on "expectations". he is absolutely right about that. expectation kills reality.

some times your partner needs a snub.


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Re: Total Power Exchange = Natural Human Male/Female Dynamic [Re: akira_akuma]
    #22239494 - 09/15/15 01:19 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

You mean the thread in general, or where it is at now? :confused:

Demanding complete and utter submission is not "expectations"?


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Re: Total Power Exchange = Natural Human Male/Female Dynamic [Re: philopian_tube]
    #22239495 - 09/15/15 01:21 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Yeah I agree, but maybe I wasn't clear enough. Neediness is an unattractive trait regardless of gender, I've been completely turned off by women whom I've had a strong initial attraction for due to it.

Letting a man lead and take charge doesn't mean you give up your purpose in life for his. The dynamic of power in a relationship should natural and uninhibited. Sexual polarity is key and relationships are great opportunities for personal growth.



yeah. good post. :thumbup:


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Re: Total Power Exchange = Natural Human Male/Female Dynamic [Re: Mr. Material]
    #22239497 - 09/15/15 01:24 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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philopian_tube said:

Letting a man lead and take charge doesn't mean you give up your purpose in life for his. The dynamic of power in a relationship should natural and uninhibited. Sexual polarity is key and relationships are great opportunities for personal growth.




Yes. This is the microcosm of what will be realised on a grand scale when the economy collapses.



though this is not an issue between men and women. they are alike in the sense that they realize their power through other people alike in themselves, and whom they are together with, regardless of their roles. :shrug: if the economy collapses, yes, you'll see alot more of a divide when people start to think about how to not contrive their power of taking charge.


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Re: Total Power Exchange = Natural Human Male/Female Dynamic [Re: akira_akuma]
    #22239499 - 09/15/15 01:26 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Total Power Exchange = Natural Human Male/Female Dynamic [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #22239504 - 09/15/15 01:32 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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You mean the thread in general, or where it is at now? :confused:

Demanding complete and utter submission is not "expectations"?



demanding that roles are the finality of the extant of relationships is what is submissive. what i'm saying is that power is extricated by a whim of opportunity, and this sometimes means a snub, or perhaps not a snub but a nod to someone else, slyly, in a relationship that is not being tended to properly - just as an example.

the extirpation of one rule of power from one or the other of these parties, excludes the principal of said power. that it is mutual. that's the only reason it even works. in ecology, things inside the sphere of influence of one another work TOGETHER; and this is not being addressed in OP, is what i'm saying.


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Re: Total Power Exchange = Natural Human Male/Female Dynamic [Re: akira_akuma]
    #22239509 - 09/15/15 01:36 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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who doesn't get what we're talking about here?



Pretty much everyone in this thread. The ignorance is astounding.

There seems to be a misconception that being a sub is the same as being a doormat, and that is not at all the case.

Unfortunately the misconception is because of books like 50 Shades of Grey that make all BDSM relationships look abusive, and some are.

But, from what I have seen.. vanilla relationships are usually more abusive and one-sided than BDSM, and a hell of a lot more unhealthy.


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Re: Total Power Exchange = Natural Human Male/Female Dynamic [Re: akira_akuma]
    #22239515 - 09/15/15 01:41 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I think he's just sexually frustrated and spending too much time on the internet.  I mean if you're a dominant man, great, I'm sure you can find some chicks who are into that, but being a guy who is utterly convinced of his power over women just comes off as creepy, mainly because it is.

I thought it was kinda funny how he is not just wildly dominant, but only willing to get into serious long-term relationships.  It's like, you can only be with me if you submit to be 100% from the start :meffz: Forever.  No backsies.

We're not cavemen.  Maybe some wish we were but we're not.  There's going to be compromise, and if OP really needs to go into a relationship with the upper hand my personal opinion is that he's likely to be overcompensating for personal insecurity, and getting into a relationship along these grounds would probably be a mistake for both parties.


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Re: Total Power Exchange = Natural Human Male/Female Dynamic [Re: D.M.T]
    #22239517 - 09/15/15 01:42 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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who doesn't get what we're talking about here?



But, from what I have seen.. vanilla relationships are usually more abusive and one-sided than BDSM, and a hell of a lot more unhealthy.




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Re: Total Power Exchange = Natural Human Male/Female Dynamic [Re: D.M.T] * 1
    #22239525 - 09/15/15 01:46 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

really, is this thread just about sex?

lol, i'm seeing a lot of that.

i thought we were talking about Total Power Exchange.

being submissive doesn't mean being a doormat, it means accepting your concernment with the other as being mutual; i mean, if we're solely talking about sex too even.

that's what being submissive it. it's nothing to do, in this instance, with being lesser than.

but it's not gender role related, this issue, unless you want it to be. :shrug: more shit rolled into shit, if you ask me. the whole concept is so barebones simplistic the very mention of it as an issue should lay abrogate as much as the issue of slavery.

it's not an ISSUE nor is it a secret. it's everyday life, but OP wants to change the world and make the big ole' world into an everyday Bible show.

because it's "what nature intends", hell Adam came before Eve right, and than SHE ate the apple the bitch.

it's woman who want to fuck up and be slaves, and hell she came from my rib. *stiff upper lip*

they WANT to be submissive and men WANT to be dominant! right!






no! WRONG. as you can plainly see; in this world people want to be both!

so please. the OP is not onto anything religious, that's for sure.

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But, from what I have seen.. vanilla relationships are usually more abusive and one-sided than BDSM, and a hell of a lot more unhealthy.




you're right though :lol:

zing!

PS: this is just about sex now.


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Re: Total Power Exchange = Natural Human Male/Female Dynamic [Re: akira_akuma]
    #22239528 - 09/15/15 01:49 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Have you been drinking again? your post is largely incoherent.

No, it isn't about sex. I never said anything about sex.


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Re: Total Power Exchange = Natural Human Male/Female Dynamic [Re: D.M.T]
    #22239533 - 09/15/15 01:53 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

it's not incoherent.

you said "BDSM relationships". i know you know what BDSM means BDSM sex, because couples don't usually put their spouse in ACTUAL mental bondage, not unless they are a sociopath.

the core of my post: which if you'd humor me, was quite expansive in it's retort and it was done for the effect of comedy, but the core of my post is thus....

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being submissive doesn't mean being a doormat, it means accepting your concernment with the other as being mutual




that does not make sense to you?


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Re: Total Power Exchange = Natural Human Male/Female Dynamic [Re: akira_akuma]
    #22239537 - 09/15/15 01:58 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Damnit I thought you were losing it talking to yourself akira since I have DMT on ignore :iseewhatyoudidthere:  I see what's going on here now.


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Re: Total Power Exchange = Natural Human Male/Female Dynamic [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #22239538 - 09/15/15 01:59 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:lol: ahahaha

i am just trying to recover the codes i lost from Alpha Centuri maaaaan :fasted:


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Re: Total Power Exchange = Natural Human Male/Female Dynamic [Re: akira_akuma]
    #22239540 - 09/15/15 02:00 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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you said "BDSM relationships". i know you know what BDSM means BDSM sex, because couples don't usually put their spouse in ACTUAL mental bondage, not unless they are a sociopath.



Poor wording, but yes, most women like the man to lead the relationship mentally and physically. They want to have a voice too, but they want much of the decision making left to the man.

If you want to get married, you're going to be the one who has to propose. If you even want to go on a date with a woman, you're going to have to be the one who makes it happen, or else it isn't going to. 

And yeah, your other post was incoherent as per the akira_akuma usual. I'm pretty sure your posts only make sense to you a majority of the time.


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Re: Total Power Exchange = Natural Human Male/Female Dynamic [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #22239547 - 09/15/15 02:05 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Damnit I thought you were losing it talking to yourself akira since I have DMT on ignore :iseewhatyoudidthere:  I see what's going on here now.



moonrockmushy lost a debate with me a while back, so responded by putting me on ignore. Classic.


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Re: Total Power Exchange = Natural Human Male/Female Dynamic [Re: D.M.T]
    #22239553 - 09/15/15 02:13 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Damnit I thought you were losing it talking to yourself akira since I have DMT on ignore :iseewhatyoudidthere:  I see what's going on here now.



moonrockmushy lost a debate with me a while back, so responded by putting me on ignore. Classic.



Maka did the same thing to me. Lol. To be honest I kinda like knowing I bugged him so bad he had to close his eyes and stick his fingers in his ears and go "lalala I can't hear you lalalala".


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Re: Total Power Exchange = Natural Human Male/Female Dynamic [Re: D.M.T]
    #22239554 - 09/15/15 02:15 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Poor wording, but yes, most women like the man to lead the relationship mentally and physically. They want to have a voice too, but they want much of the decision making left to the man.

If you want to get married, you're going to be the one who has to propose. If you even want to go on a date with a woman, you're going to have to be the one who makes it happen, or else it isn't going to. 

And yeah, your other post was incoherent as per the akira_akuma usual. I'm pretty sure your posts only make sense to you a majority of the time.




it made perfect sense what i said, and (it was) not confusing whatsoever to me. maybe not the most practical wording but my words and memories aren't for sale (anyways).

the words in parentheses are your's though, free. maybe they can help you. they didn't help me.


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