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So how bout this..
    #22227845 - 09/12/15 04:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So I thought I'd drop by and ask a trip sitter question. Still waiting on my shrooms to grow, so I've got time to ask a few more questions and learn a few more things.

I don't know if I'm going to be able to come up with a trip sitter. So I had an idea I'd like to run by you guys. What if I just do .5 grams instead of 1 gram or 1.5? From what I've read, the reason you need a trip sitter your first couple of times, is because you're unfamiliar with the experience. Don't wanna run down the street naked. Oooh, that's another thread idea.

So what about that? What if I just tripped on 0.5 grams for my first trip? With no trip sitter. If I had a trip sitter, I'd do 1.5G for my first trip. And work my way up from there, over time. But how about half a gram? I'll be using the lemonade method of consuming them, I won't be eating them. Then on the next trip, also by myself, do 1 gram. Then on the next trip, do 1.5 grams. At that point, my next ones might be read to take off into 2.5G, then 3.5G, and so on.


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: bennylava]
    #22227892 - 09/12/15 04:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I'd do at least 2.5/3.
You don't need a sitter if you have solid mind. If you have a lot of fear, anxiety, and dread in your everyday life then expect some to come out into trips.
The key is getting over your thoughts because you are not them you watch them and hold them as an object. Mind is the self but the self is not the mind.
Don't fall prey to your negative thoughts and try to escape them accept them as a part of your being and release them.
Yesterday is only a memory and tomorrow never comes. All that is is now. Do not make the mistake of trying to escape now with time because it's impossible. You will suffer greatly if you do this while tripping.
Stay present for now it's the most complete experience you can have.

If you encounter any negative feelings or entities ask "who sent them?"


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: Eggtimer]
    #22230596 - 09/13/15 09:17 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Nobody thinks 0.5 grams is safe with no sitter?

How about 0.25 grams then? Then in a couple weeks, move up to 0.5. The 1 gram, next time after that. And so on.

I know some of you guys here trip on 3.5 or 4 all the time with no sitter.


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: bennylava]
    #22230640 - 09/13/15 09:31 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

You won't need a sitter at all with that little. You need to do at least 3.5 before possibly needing one


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: Chimaira]
    #22230971 - 09/13/15 10:36 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Do not ingest at least 2.5 to 3 grams if you are not experienced with mushrooms. (Or anywhere near that dosage.) 2.5 - 3 grams is a typical dose for someone who is quite experienced with psychedelics. The psychedelic experience is like nothing other. You do not know yet how you will react to the mushrooms. You may not need a trip sitter but I would recommend one if you have never taken mushrooms before but only a trusted friend. Try to find one, even if you have to postpone eating the mushrooms. If you absolutely cannot find anyone make sure you are in a very comfortable setting & have a positive mental attitude. Set & setting are absolutely key to having a positive experience. I know it has been said time & time again but it is very true. Mushrooms tend to amplify your current state of mind or mood so if you are depressed or in a negative frame of mind do not take mushrooms. Since you have no idea how you will react to the mushrooms I would not recommend taking anything over one gram. You are the one who is ingesting the mushrooms so you decide on what your dosage will be. If you feel that you should take 0.25 grams your first time then by all means start off with that dosage. You do not want to take too much and have a bad trip. You can always take more in the future but you can never take less. Do not take mushrooms too frequently or you will gain a tolerance, thus having to increase the dosage each time to achieve the same effects as the previous trip.

To answer your questions,

No one can say wether or not .5 grams without a sitter would be safe. 0.5 grams is considered a low dose that is all I can say.

If you feel comfortable with 0.25 grams then by all means start off with that dose.

I personally would not recommend "the lemon method" or the lemon tek your first time ingesting mushrooms. If you don't want to eat the mushrooms whole you can simply grind them up in a herb grinder or a blender. Then take small pinches & place them in your mouth & chase with water.

Remember, safety first. Have fun. Good vibes. :sun:


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: bennylava]
    #22231631 - 09/13/15 01:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So what about that? What if I just tripped on 0.5 grams for my first trip? With no trip sitter. If I had a trip sitter, I'd do 1.5G for my first trip. And work my way up from there, over time. But how about half a gram? I'll be using the lemonade method of consuming them, I won't be eating them. Then on the next trip, also by myself, do 1 gram. Then on the next trip, do 1.5 grams. At that point, my next ones might be read to take off into 2.5G, then 3.5G, and so on.





I personally think this is a great idea. You never know how mushrooms might effect you. I'm really sensitive to their effects myself, a .5 of some good cubes will have me at a nice level 2. At 2g's I tend to be completely obliterated at a level 4-5, so my sweet spot is usually 1-1.5gs depending on how deep I want to go. And sometimes people are even more sensitive. My fiance's friend, on as little as 1g, can do nothing but giggle and snort, lost in her mind until she comes down :shrug: :lol: Only one way to find out, and going too deep the first time could result in turning you off of the experience for good.


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: Tripsahoy420] * 1
    #22232612 - 09/13/15 04:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I would personally start with 1 gram, especially if you are used to other drugs and altered states of mind. I think 0.5g might not be enough to get a proper idea of the mushrooms, but 1.5g could be too much if they happen to be very potent. I think 1g would get you feeling pretty good and definitely not be too overwhelming.


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: LSDaytripper]
    #22232990 - 09/13/15 06:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for the replies. Tripsahoy thinks this method is a good idea, anyone else agree?

I'm asking if I could circumvent needing a trip sitter, EVER. By building up my experience level, (like a video game lol). No but seriously, building up experience from very low dosages, to low dosages, to medium, and finally high, or a 5 gram dose.


Can I completely forego a trip sitter this way? Over time, getting more and more used to the mushroom. Or is it too big of a difference from say, 2.5 grams, to 3.5 grams? Is there too much of a difference there?

Another odd idea, I've also thought about chaining myself up. haha


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: bennylava] * 1
    #22233013 - 09/13/15 06:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Trip sitter? More like tripping buddy !!!!


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: bennylava]
    #22233089 - 09/13/15 06:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Start low and work your way up. That doesn't mean that you have to keep increasing the dose every single time you trip though. Eventually the experience would just become too much for one to handle if they increase the dose each time & trip frequently. Obviously you will know what is "too much."

If you want to start off with .5 gram then go ahead. That is considered a "low dose", although I cannot say nor can anyone else say how .5 grams of mushrooms will effect you. Some may find a .5 of mushrooms to be underwhelming for their first trip while some could find it overwhelming. I highly doubt a .5 will be overwhelming though but no one knows... drugs effect everyone differently.

A trip sitter is not absolutely necessary but recommended. From 2.5 grams to 3.5 grams will be a noticeable difference. Doubling the dose of psychedelics will not just feel like double the effects of the initial douse. Doubling the dose will bring on entirely new effects of the drug. What I mean is, if you feel happy & joyful on 1 gram of mushrooms, doubling the dose to two grams may not make you feel two times as happy & joyful.

Do not chain yourself up... that sounds like a disaster waiting to happen. I've never said this before because who am I to say who should be tripping and who shouldn't... but... if you feel that it is necessary to chain yourself up while tripping then you probably shouldn't be tripping in the first place. Remember set & setting is key to having a positive experience. Also remember that mushrooms tend to amplify your current frame of mind/mood/emotions.


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: LTspendIT] * 1
    #22233141 - 09/13/15 06:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

1 gram is likely a safe dosage without a sitter.

As bigfeely pointed out, don't go doing 2.5-3 grams on your first trip. I'm not even sure why people recommend such high doses for a first time trippers. It seems like foolish advice to me.


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: TBJ12]
    #22233574 - 09/13/15 07:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The first time i ever tripped i was in my house solo ( little siblings where home)i was 16 and i ate prolly a half 8th of cyanescenes i found at the park by my house i litteraly spent 3 hours in the dark laughing at nothing! Best thing to keep in mind is to always remember you just ate mushrooms while you are tripping iv had a buddy forget that and he called the cops on himself.a buddy helps alot! I had mine over the phone but it was fine in my eyes have a safe trip haha!


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: TBJ12]
    #22233625 - 09/13/15 07:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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1 gram is likely a safe dosage without a sitter.

As bigfeely pointed out, don't go doing 2.5-3 grams on your first trip. I'm not even sure why people recommend such high doses for a first time trippers. It seems like foolish advice to me.




People recommend higher doses because of the ego. At low doses the ego can still hold on and effect the trip. When you dose high, the ego has no choice but to dissolve. At threshold doses of .5-1g, many people get stuck in the uncomfortable come-up, possibly making the trip quite negative. When you dose high enough, you sail right through the come-upto the peak, giving the ego little chance to fight back.

OP, just prepare yourself for an induced state of psychosis. Remember that you took a drug and you will eventually come down off of the drug. Most trips usually last around 6-8 hours so put a timer on it if you like.

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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: HamHead]
    #22233688 - 09/13/15 07:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I am not arguing with you but sometimes at higher doses one can fight with "ego loss" and that can put the tripper in a fight or flight mode situation. It is not pretty... Most likely you'll come to it again & realize you trashed your whole house or something to that effect.

That is why I recommend a low dose to begin with. Because even if OP does get some anxiety, it will not be so severe to where he is fighting tooth & nail to "stay alive" or what he thinks is himself dying.


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #22234562 - 09/13/15 09:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I don't know if I need the chains or not lol. I just don't want to run down the street naked. Looking through the older threads, we've had a disturbing amount of people who for some reason, ran down the street naked. Some were picked up by the cops, others had worse things happen. I'm trying to avoid that. At least the chains would prevent me from trashing my house or running down the street naked.


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: bennylava]
    #22234728 - 09/13/15 10:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Iv never lost it like that ever! The worst iv had was getting negative vibes did you check on what amount they took?


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: bennylava]
    #22234878 - 09/13/15 11:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

up to 2 grams i think the worst that can happen is that you have a bad time.

in my experience at lower doses, people are always aware that they took shrooms and it is the reason for their current
situation, and a careful person such as yourself may or may not be overwhelmed by the experience, but will continue to be a careful person.

if you can handle yourself reasonably well under pressure i would say you are safe up to 2 grams.
0.2 grams is about threshold so 0.5 should be enough to at least 'get high' and test your sensitivity
but i would advise against making any assumptions about how higher doses might effect you based on that experience.


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: DaveyJones6911]
    #22234985 - 09/13/15 11:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Great idea 2 gs was my first trip! Haha i was a big stoner so it reminded me of being hyper stoned but with a shit tone of laughing at least my first time but every trip for me is a little different if you smoke pot you should be able to handle the 2 grams no problem especialy if they are cubes!


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    #22234989 - 09/13/15 11:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: LTspendIT]
    #22235526 - 09/14/15 06:56 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

A lot of good advice here. :smile: I'm happy to see that there's not a plethora of comments advocating for you to take unreasonable amounts of mushrooms. :thumbup:


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: DaveyJones6911]
    #22235721 - 09/14/15 09:11 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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DaveyJones6911 said:But i would advise against making any assumptions about how higher doses might effect you based on that experience.





Yes thanks for all the help everyone. Its greatly appreciated.

But to reply to this comment, it seems like you're saying that I really can't get out of having a trip sitter. Past a certain point.

Cause while the 0.5 grams to 1.5 grams may be one experience, 2.5 grams is a whole different experience. So I can't really get out of the trip sitter, if I want to be safe. I wanted to be able to build up my psyche, and my mental toughness, if you will. My ability to handle it, and gain enough experience to be able to have enough control, that I wouldn't need the trip sitter. But if the experience changes enough at these medium doses, then it seems that it would be something I just wouldn't be prepared for. No matter how good I was able to get at tripping on 1 gram or 1.5 grams. Does that sound like a apt description of the situation?

I don't want to be one of these people who sees the only way out, as death. And to be honest, I'm somewhat paranoid. Somewhat, not as much as some. But lets just say I'll definitely be tripping during the daytime. And every light in my house will be on. LOL


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: bennylava]
    #22235734 - 09/14/15 09:16 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Have a great trip and dont forget to post a trip report would love to here how it goes! First time is always the best haha!I highly suggests that if you are going to trip indoors is to watch H.R PUFNSTUF the movie (dont watch or look into it until your tripping its better as a suprise) have a shroomery day!http:/


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: LTspendIT]
    #22235742 - 09/14/15 09:19 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

PS. IF YOUR THINKIG BAD THOUGHTS OR BAD VIBES BEFORE YOU TAKE UM YOUR NOT GUNNA HAVE A BAD TIME. Take them when you feel the time is right i take mine when im genuinely exited to trip


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: LTspendIT]
    #22235770 - 09/14/15 09:32 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Honestly. ...I think 3g+ will put u in the zone....enough but not too much....sucks to half trip...:firstladyofapproval:

....Mushrooms are beautiful...the more the merrier 4 me....up to 8g so far...gonna do 10 next time...

....my friend described mushrooms as a "man's high".....

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The shattering aspect is what I love....then massive euphoria :awecluster:

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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: bennylava]
    #22235788 - 09/14/15 09:39 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I don't think there is any way out of me being scared and paranoid on my first trip. Doesn't seem like a sane man would be all happy and excited, when he's never done this before.


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: bennylava]
    #22235806 - 09/14/15 09:45 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

2 grams shouldent mess with you to much just expect a lot of thinking and a intense body high simple cartoons or watching a movie should calm you down! When i was having a bad trip i just watched the Simpson's really calmed me down


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: LTspendIT]
    #22235811 - 09/14/15 09:47 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Haha i was a kid looking for a good time so i think it was rather sane especially with all the propaganda on mushrooms in teebs movies


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: bennylava]
    #22235813 - 09/14/15 09:48 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Oh....and absolutely listen to these guys on comeup....will float u in on a cloud:wonka:

         


....full albums on spotify...alot of them on youtube....seriously awesome on comeup...comforting and reassuring...:mindexpanding:


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    #22235825 - 09/14/15 09:52 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Then...if u wanna go deep.....:mindexpanding:

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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: bennylava]
    #22236146 - 09/14/15 11:21 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Try not to worry so much man. You seem extremely apprehensive. The stories you hear about people running around butt naked & having a psychotic episode are most likely 2-3 grams plus. If you're that worried that you may have a bad trip then honestly I think you should postpone it until you feel absolutely comfortable. The worst that I could see happening on .25 or .5 grams of mushrooms is you get anxious & have negative thoughts running through your head. Do I see you running around your neighborhood butt naked on .25 or .5 of mushrooms? No... HIGHLY, HIGHLY unlikely.

You shouldn't be any more anxious than you would waiting on a line to get on rollercoaster.

I'm not saying others haven't given good advice because they have but do not take the recommended dose of mushrooms by others unless you legitimately feel comfortable with that dose. But just by reading your posts, personally I would definitely not recommend you take 2 grams your first trip. You are the one ingesting the mushrooms. You decide the dose you will be taking. Some take 5 grams of mushrooms, some take .5 grams of mushrooms.

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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #22238426 - 09/14/15 08:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Try not to worry so much man. You seem extremely apprehensive. The stories you hear about people running around butt naked & having a psychotic episode are most likely 2-3 grams plus. If you're that worried that you may have a bad trip then honestly I think you should postpone it until you feel absolutely comfortable. The worst that I could see happening on .25 or .5 grams of mushrooms is you get anxious & have negative thoughts running through your head. Do I see you running around your neighborhood butt naked on .25 or .5 of mushrooms? No... HIGHLY, HIGHLY unlikely.

You shouldn't be any more anxious than you would waiting on a line to get on rollercoaster.

I'm not saying others haven't given good advice because they have but do not take the recommended dose of mushrooms by others unless you legitimately feel comfortable with that dose. But just by reading your posts, personally I would definitely not recommend you take 2 grams your first trip. You are the one ingesting the mushrooms. You decide the dose you will be taking. Some take 5 grams of mushrooms, some take .5 grams of mushrooms.

Happy trails.





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Very true. Nobody can dose you. Only you can do that.

One thing I can say, as mentioned before, DO NOT CHAIN YOURSELF UP!!!!!
You won't appreciate it. It won't be 'Hey, I'm kind of stuck here, maybe it's a sign from the universe that I shouldn't go anywhere', it'll be more like 'Holy shit! I'm chained up! Some evil shit is going down!'

Personally, I've never had a sitter. My first time with shrooms was probably about 3gms dry. I made some tea and just hung on for the ride. I had an absolutely wonderful time. Amazed at everything from a line of ants walking across the porch to the fact that I left the water running in the sink on accident. Granted, I was experienced with other drugs and psychs, but this was a whole different rollercoaster.

Anyway, I say (especially on as low a dose as .5gms) you don't need a sitter. But do what YOU think is best for YOU. You have to know yourself. Be HONEST with yourself. Are you a person that naturally likes to fight or do crazy things? Like mentioned before, mushrooms amplify what you are feeling, and that sort of extends into other aspects of your personality.



Moral of the story, you'll have to decide for yourself if you want/need a sitter or not. If you are anxious that you might want one and didn't get one at dose time, you are liable to induce a bit of panic when you feel yourself start to trip and wish you did...


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    #22238448 - 09/14/15 08:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

lower doses tend to bring on anxiety and unease in the legs thru the trip.
id do at least a gram.


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    #22238449 - 09/14/15 08:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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ajp1 said:
lower doses tend to bring on anxiety and unease in the legs thru the trip.
id do at least a gram.




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    #22238453 - 09/14/15 08:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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ajp1 said:
lower doses tend to bring on anxiety and unease in the legs thru the trip.
id do at least a gram.



imo


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    #22238492 - 09/14/15 08:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

TRIPLE POST! :feelsbannedman:

LOL. I'm totally kidding man. :heart:

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Just for future reference & trust me, I'm not saying this to be a dick. Just trying to help a newcomer. :smile: If you want to add more to the conversation or add more content to your original post you can simply "edit" (right next to reply, quote & quick reply) & continue typing away! Welcome to The Shroomery ajp1! :hug:


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    #22238505 - 09/14/15 08:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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TRIPLE POST! :feelsbannedman:

LOL. I'm totally kidding man. :heart:

^ (put your clicker/pointer over the black bar)

Just for future reference & trust me, I'm not saying this to be a dick. Just trying to help a newcomer. :smile: If you want to add more to the conversation or add more content to your original post you can simply "edit" (right next to reply, quote & quick reply) & continue typing away! Welcome to The Shroomery ajp1! :hug:




hey im actually ajp420, I lost my phone and was subtly trying to gain a few posts haha. I cant log into my other account and need like 25 posts if I remember correctly to be able to post in my home the wca lol


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    #22238508 - 09/14/15 08:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I apologize


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    #22238553 - 09/14/15 08:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

HAHA. I see what you're trying to do... You sly little monkey you. LOL. No worries man. No need to apologize. I was totally just kidding. OP, I'm sorry for slightly derailing your thread. If you have anymore questions that you need answered feel free to post them in this thread. I will do my very best to answer any further questions or concerns that you may have! :japsmile:


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    #22238577 - 09/14/15 08:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

haha I know man. also op, would a lemon tekked smaller amount sound better? that way it will be a little shorter duration. you can dose accordingly, but if done right I get twice as strong half as long.
real lemons squeezed into a wine glass (hehe fancy) on top of ur dose swish it around in the glasss and stir with a fork then gulp the shot down. I do about a lemon per half g


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: ajp1]
    #22239015 - 09/14/15 10:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

My first trip was on 3.5 grams with no sitter when I was 17. It went very smoothly and was probably one the most life changing experiences I've ever had. Shit I'd call it one of the most important days of my life next to being born. Id say don't stress the sitter thing tuck yourself in some blankets turn off the lights and hold on tight man.


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: bennylava]
    #22244388 - 09/16/15 03:55 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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DaveyJones6911 said:But i would advise against making any assumptions about how higher doses might effect you based on that experience.





Yes thanks for all the help everyone. Its greatly appreciated.

But to reply to this comment, it seems like you're saying that I really can't get out of having a trip sitter. Past a certain point.

Cause while the 0.5 grams to 1.5 grams may be one experience, 2.5 grams is a whole different experience. So I can't really get out of the trip sitter, if I want to be safe. I wanted to be able to build up my psyche, and my mental toughness, if you will. My ability to handle it, and gain enough experience to be able to have enough control, that I wouldn't need the trip sitter. But if the experience changes enough at these medium doses, then it seems that it would be something I just wouldn't be prepared for. No matter how good I was able to get at tripping on 1 gram or 1.5 grams. Does that sound like a apt description of the situation?

I don't want to be one of these people who sees the only way out, as death. And to be honest, I'm somewhat paranoid. Somewhat, not as much as some. But lets just say I'll definitely be tripping during the daytime. And every light in my house will be on. LOL




not exactly.
what i am saying is that 0.5 grams, though enough to test your sensitivity is not enough
to give you any idea as to how higher doses will effect you.
1 gram though i think should be enough to get a sense of the nature of the beast and increasing the dose from there
will simply intensify the experience.
the danger i am thinking of here is really nothing more then you having a bad time.

in terms of running trough the streets naked, it takes quite a lot for that to become possible.

for my own mileage, i start thinking about a sitter at about 4 grams or more.
and that's mostly so there is a buffer between my and anything from the rest of reality that
might draw my attention. like sober people ringing my doorbell, that kinda thing.

mushrooms might mess with your perception of reality, but i have never experienced
it altering my reasoning in any way.

incidentally: people killing themselves on psychedelics are extremely rare.
and what you read in the media is most often disinfo. some overzealous reporter not getting
the facts straight and making stupid assumptions.
for example: the man who ritually slaughtered his dog because he thought the dog was possessed
was not on mushrooms. this is what was reported because either the reporter had been bought off
to serve some political agenda or the cunt just reached for an obvious drug to blame for the situation.
it turns out the guy was on a combination of cocaine and heroin. but of course the mushrooms get the front page, and
the retraction gets buried on page 22...

and afaik there is only 1 person who jumped out of a window.
his name was frank olson and he was dosed without his knowledge at a time when LSD
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    #22246088 - 09/16/15 01:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So its pretty unlikely, that I'll have a trip so bad, that I'll wanna off myself.

Its also pretty unlikely, that I'll run down the street naked.


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    #22246155 - 09/16/15 01:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, but a trip sitter is definitely recommended for the higher doses. It's nice to have a grounding anchor in this reality, just in case things get a bit out of control.


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    #22246290 - 09/16/15 02:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Should a trip sitter laugh at you? I'm not saying mess with you in any way, or fuck with you and try to make your trip somehow take a turn for the worse. None of that. But should they also withhold their laughter, and avoid talking to you?


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    #22246536 - 09/16/15 03:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

They should be supportive of your trip and try to stay neutral and busy doing another task. Just another person's presence (someone you trust), can help you ease through the rough spots in a high dose mushroom trip. That's why clinical trials using psilocybin, have to be in controlled settings and monitored by the researcher the entire time.


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    #22247501 - 09/16/15 07:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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in terms of running trough the streets naked, it takes quite a lot for that to become possible.

mushrooms might mess with your perception of reality, but i have never experienced
it altering my reasoning in any way.





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Should a trip sitter laugh at you? I'm not saying mess with you in any way, or fuck with you and try to make your trip somehow take a turn for the worse. None of that. But should they also withhold their laughter, and avoid talking to you?




I don't think I would like someone laughing at me. Might make me self-conscious about how I was acting or something. But that's just me, I guess. Some people might not mind that.


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    #22247537 - 09/16/15 07:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

@OP

Bro you gotta stop being so paranoid about a bad trip. That's exactly what causes it. You just gotta go into knowing you will have a good experience. And on such a low dose I doubt you will run down the street naked or want to die. Honestly I wouldn't start with less than 1.5 if they are cubes. I have to be actively looking for the effects to even notice them if I take a gram or less. For me I don't really feel like I could have a bad trip on less than 3.5g of shrooms.

I took a quarter of really good shrooms my first time man and I don't regret it at all even though I completely lost myself in the trip. It was life changing to say the least. I haven't been nearly the same person since. This was years ago and I have a lot of experience with shrooms now. Also, I wouldn't recommend this much for your first time unless you just want to dive right into the deep end. High doses like this are when bad trips and losing your mind for hours are very real possibilities.


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trvptamine said:It was life changing to say the least. I haven't been nearly the same person since.




Thanks for the post. You guys are really helping me, know it or not. Can you go into further detail, about who you were before, and who you've become now? In what way was it life changing?


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trvptamine said:It was life changing to say the least. I haven't been nearly the same person since.




Thanks for the post. You guys are really helping me, know it or not. Can you go into further detail, about who you were before, and who you've become now? In what way was it life changing?



Before my first experience with mushrooms I had horrible social anxiety. I was bad at making friends and was scared to talk to girls. Most people would've considered me a weirdo and a nerd. I lied all the time to my family to hide things. I lied all the time to my friends to sound cool. I just had problems.

After the trip I have no social anxiety and could talk to anyone. I stopped lying to people because I realized what other people think didn't actually matter like I thought it did. I became more deeply in love with the universe around me because for the first time I had finally seen the beauty in everyday life.

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    #22249508 - 09/17/15 04:23 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Should a trip sitter laugh at you? I'm not saying mess with you in any way, or fuck with you and try to make your trip somehow take a turn for the worse. None of that. But should they also withhold their laughter, and avoid talking to you?




i recommend you let your sitter watch this video:

it has some good tips on how to deal with people who are tripping.


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