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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: bennylava]
    #22244388 - 09/16/15 03:55 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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DaveyJones6911 said:But i would advise against making any assumptions about how higher doses might effect you based on that experience.





Yes thanks for all the help everyone. Its greatly appreciated.

But to reply to this comment, it seems like you're saying that I really can't get out of having a trip sitter. Past a certain point.

Cause while the 0.5 grams to 1.5 grams may be one experience, 2.5 grams is a whole different experience. So I can't really get out of the trip sitter, if I want to be safe. I wanted to be able to build up my psyche, and my mental toughness, if you will. My ability to handle it, and gain enough experience to be able to have enough control, that I wouldn't need the trip sitter. But if the experience changes enough at these medium doses, then it seems that it would be something I just wouldn't be prepared for. No matter how good I was able to get at tripping on 1 gram or 1.5 grams. Does that sound like a apt description of the situation?

I don't want to be one of these people who sees the only way out, as death. And to be honest, I'm somewhat paranoid. Somewhat, not as much as some. But lets just say I'll definitely be tripping during the daytime. And every light in my house will be on. LOL




not exactly.
what i am saying is that 0.5 grams, though enough to test your sensitivity is not enough
to give you any idea as to how higher doses will effect you.
1 gram though i think should be enough to get a sense of the nature of the beast and increasing the dose from there
will simply intensify the experience.
the danger i am thinking of here is really nothing more then you having a bad time.

in terms of running trough the streets naked, it takes quite a lot for that to become possible.

for my own mileage, i start thinking about a sitter at about 4 grams or more.
and that's mostly so there is a buffer between my and anything from the rest of reality that
might draw my attention. like sober people ringing my doorbell, that kinda thing.

mushrooms might mess with your perception of reality, but i have never experienced
it altering my reasoning in any way.

incidentally: people killing themselves on psychedelics are extremely rare.
and what you read in the media is most often disinfo. some overzealous reporter not getting
the facts straight and making stupid assumptions.
for example: the man who ritually slaughtered his dog because he thought the dog was possessed
was not on mushrooms. this is what was reported because either the reporter had been bought off
to serve some political agenda or the cunt just reached for an obvious drug to blame for the situation.
it turns out the guy was on a combination of cocaine and heroin. but of course the mushrooms get the front page, and
the retraction gets buried on page 22...

and afaik there is only 1 person who jumped out of a window.
his name was frank olson and he was dosed without his knowledge at a time when LSD
was still unknown by most people.


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: DaveyJones6911]
    #22246088 - 09/16/15 01:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So its pretty unlikely, that I'll have a trip so bad, that I'll wanna off myself.

Its also pretty unlikely, that I'll run down the street naked.


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: bennylava]
    #22246155 - 09/16/15 01:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, but a trip sitter is definitely recommended for the higher doses. It's nice to have a grounding anchor in this reality, just in case things get a bit out of control.


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: bennylava]
    #22246290 - 09/16/15 02:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Should a trip sitter laugh at you? I'm not saying mess with you in any way, or fuck with you and try to make your trip somehow take a turn for the worse. None of that. But should they also withhold their laughter, and avoid talking to you?


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: bennylava]
    #22246536 - 09/16/15 03:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

They should be supportive of your trip and try to stay neutral and busy doing another task. Just another person's presence (someone you trust), can help you ease through the rough spots in a high dose mushroom trip. That's why clinical trials using psilocybin, have to be in controlled settings and monitored by the researcher the entire time.


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: bennylava]
    #22247501 - 09/16/15 07:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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DaveyJones6911 said:
in terms of running trough the streets naked, it takes quite a lot for that to become possible.

mushrooms might mess with your perception of reality, but i have never experienced
it altering my reasoning in any way.





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Should a trip sitter laugh at you? I'm not saying mess with you in any way, or fuck with you and try to make your trip somehow take a turn for the worse. None of that. But should they also withhold their laughter, and avoid talking to you?




I don't think I would like someone laughing at me. Might make me self-conscious about how I was acting or something. But that's just me, I guess. Some people might not mind that.


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: bennylava]
    #22247537 - 09/16/15 07:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

@OP

Bro you gotta stop being so paranoid about a bad trip. That's exactly what causes it. You just gotta go into knowing you will have a good experience. And on such a low dose I doubt you will run down the street naked or want to die. Honestly I wouldn't start with less than 1.5 if they are cubes. I have to be actively looking for the effects to even notice them if I take a gram or less. For me I don't really feel like I could have a bad trip on less than 3.5g of shrooms.

I took a quarter of really good shrooms my first time man and I don't regret it at all even though I completely lost myself in the trip. It was life changing to say the least. I haven't been nearly the same person since. This was years ago and I have a lot of experience with shrooms now. Also, I wouldn't recommend this much for your first time unless you just want to dive right into the deep end. High doses like this are when bad trips and losing your mind for hours are very real possibilities.


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: trvptamine]
    #22247750 - 09/16/15 07:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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trvptamine said:It was life changing to say the least. I haven't been nearly the same person since.




Thanks for the post. You guys are really helping me, know it or not. Can you go into further detail, about who you were before, and who you've become now? In what way was it life changing?


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: bennylava]
    #22248055 - 09/16/15 08:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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trvptamine said:It was life changing to say the least. I haven't been nearly the same person since.




Thanks for the post. You guys are really helping me, know it or not. Can you go into further detail, about who you were before, and who you've become now? In what way was it life changing?



Before my first experience with mushrooms I had horrible social anxiety. I was bad at making friends and was scared to talk to girls. Most people would've considered me a weirdo and a nerd. I lied all the time to my family to hide things. I lied all the time to my friends to sound cool. I just had problems.

After the trip I have no social anxiety and could talk to anyone. I stopped lying to people because I realized what other people think didn't actually matter like I thought it did. I became more deeply in love with the universe around me because for the first time I had finally seen the beauty in everyday life.

And these changes in me as a person have never went away.


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: bennylava]
    #22249508 - 09/17/15 04:23 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Should a trip sitter laugh at you? I'm not saying mess with you in any way, or fuck with you and try to make your trip somehow take a turn for the worse. None of that. But should they also withhold their laughter, and avoid talking to you?




i recommend you let your sitter watch this video:

it has some good tips on how to deal with people who are tripping.


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