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Offlinebennylava
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So how bout this..
    #22227845 - 09/12/15 04:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So I thought I'd drop by and ask a trip sitter question. Still waiting on my shrooms to grow, so I've got time to ask a few more questions and learn a few more things.

I don't know if I'm going to be able to come up with a trip sitter. So I had an idea I'd like to run by you guys. What if I just do .5 grams instead of 1 gram or 1.5? From what I've read, the reason you need a trip sitter your first couple of times, is because you're unfamiliar with the experience. Don't wanna run down the street naked. Oooh, that's another thread idea.

So what about that? What if I just tripped on 0.5 grams for my first trip? With no trip sitter. If I had a trip sitter, I'd do 1.5G for my first trip. And work my way up from there, over time. But how about half a gram? I'll be using the lemonade method of consuming them, I won't be eating them. Then on the next trip, also by myself, do 1 gram. Then on the next trip, do 1.5 grams. At that point, my next ones might be read to take off into 2.5G, then 3.5G, and so on.


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: bennylava]
    #22227892 - 09/12/15 04:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I'd do at least 2.5/3.
You don't need a sitter if you have solid mind. If you have a lot of fear, anxiety, and dread in your everyday life then expect some to come out into trips.
The key is getting over your thoughts because you are not them you watch them and hold them as an object. Mind is the self but the self is not the mind.
Don't fall prey to your negative thoughts and try to escape them accept them as a part of your being and release them.
Yesterday is only a memory and tomorrow never comes. All that is is now. Do not make the mistake of trying to escape now with time because it's impossible. You will suffer greatly if you do this while tripping.
Stay present for now it's the most complete experience you can have.

If you encounter any negative feelings or entities ask "who sent them?"


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: Eggtimer]
    #22230596 - 09/13/15 09:17 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Nobody thinks 0.5 grams is safe with no sitter?

How about 0.25 grams then? Then in a couple weeks, move up to 0.5. The 1 gram, next time after that. And so on.

I know some of you guys here trip on 3.5 or 4 all the time with no sitter.


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: bennylava]
    #22230640 - 09/13/15 09:31 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

You won't need a sitter at all with that little. You need to do at least 3.5 before possibly needing one


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: Chimaira]
    #22230971 - 09/13/15 10:36 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Do not ingest at least 2.5 to 3 grams if you are not experienced with mushrooms. (Or anywhere near that dosage.) 2.5 - 3 grams is a typical dose for someone who is quite experienced with psychedelics. The psychedelic experience is like nothing other. You do not know yet how you will react to the mushrooms. You may not need a trip sitter but I would recommend one if you have never taken mushrooms before but only a trusted friend. Try to find one, even if you have to postpone eating the mushrooms. If you absolutely cannot find anyone make sure you are in a very comfortable setting & have a positive mental attitude. Set & setting are absolutely key to having a positive experience. I know it has been said time & time again but it is very true. Mushrooms tend to amplify your current state of mind or mood so if you are depressed or in a negative frame of mind do not take mushrooms. Since you have no idea how you will react to the mushrooms I would not recommend taking anything over one gram. You are the one who is ingesting the mushrooms so you decide on what your dosage will be. If you feel that you should take 0.25 grams your first time then by all means start off with that dosage. You do not want to take too much and have a bad trip. You can always take more in the future but you can never take less. Do not take mushrooms too frequently or you will gain a tolerance, thus having to increase the dosage each time to achieve the same effects as the previous trip.

To answer your questions,

No one can say wether or not .5 grams without a sitter would be safe. 0.5 grams is considered a low dose that is all I can say.

If you feel comfortable with 0.25 grams then by all means start off with that dose.

I personally would not recommend "the lemon method" or the lemon tek your first time ingesting mushrooms. If you don't want to eat the mushrooms whole you can simply grind them up in a herb grinder or a blender. Then take small pinches & place them in your mouth & chase with water.

Remember, safety first. Have fun. Good vibes. :sun:


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: bennylava]
    #22231631 - 09/13/15 01:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So what about that? What if I just tripped on 0.5 grams for my first trip? With no trip sitter. If I had a trip sitter, I'd do 1.5G for my first trip. And work my way up from there, over time. But how about half a gram? I'll be using the lemonade method of consuming them, I won't be eating them. Then on the next trip, also by myself, do 1 gram. Then on the next trip, do 1.5 grams. At that point, my next ones might be read to take off into 2.5G, then 3.5G, and so on.





I personally think this is a great idea. You never know how mushrooms might effect you. I'm really sensitive to their effects myself, a .5 of some good cubes will have me at a nice level 2. At 2g's I tend to be completely obliterated at a level 4-5, so my sweet spot is usually 1-1.5gs depending on how deep I want to go. And sometimes people are even more sensitive. My fiance's friend, on as little as 1g, can do nothing but giggle and snort, lost in her mind until she comes down :shrug: :lol: Only one way to find out, and going too deep the first time could result in turning you off of the experience for good.


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: Tripsahoy420] * 1
    #22232612 - 09/13/15 04:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I would personally start with 1 gram, especially if you are used to other drugs and altered states of mind. I think 0.5g might not be enough to get a proper idea of the mushrooms, but 1.5g could be too much if they happen to be very potent. I think 1g would get you feeling pretty good and definitely not be too overwhelming.


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: LSDaytripper]
    #22232990 - 09/13/15 06:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for the replies. Tripsahoy thinks this method is a good idea, anyone else agree?

I'm asking if I could circumvent needing a trip sitter, EVER. By building up my experience level, (like a video game lol). No but seriously, building up experience from very low dosages, to low dosages, to medium, and finally high, or a 5 gram dose.


Can I completely forego a trip sitter this way? Over time, getting more and more used to the mushroom. Or is it too big of a difference from say, 2.5 grams, to 3.5 grams? Is there too much of a difference there?

Another odd idea, I've also thought about chaining myself up. haha


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: bennylava] * 1
    #22233013 - 09/13/15 06:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Trip sitter? More like tripping buddy !!!!


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: bennylava]
    #22233089 - 09/13/15 06:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Start low and work your way up. That doesn't mean that you have to keep increasing the dose every single time you trip though. Eventually the experience would just become too much for one to handle if they increase the dose each time & trip frequently. Obviously you will know what is "too much."

If you want to start off with .5 gram then go ahead. That is considered a "low dose", although I cannot say nor can anyone else say how .5 grams of mushrooms will effect you. Some may find a .5 of mushrooms to be underwhelming for their first trip while some could find it overwhelming. I highly doubt a .5 will be overwhelming though but no one knows... drugs effect everyone differently.

A trip sitter is not absolutely necessary but recommended. From 2.5 grams to 3.5 grams will be a noticeable difference. Doubling the dose of psychedelics will not just feel like double the effects of the initial douse. Doubling the dose will bring on entirely new effects of the drug. What I mean is, if you feel happy & joyful on 1 gram of mushrooms, doubling the dose to two grams may not make you feel two times as happy & joyful.

Do not chain yourself up... that sounds like a disaster waiting to happen. I've never said this before because who am I to say who should be tripping and who shouldn't... but... if you feel that it is necessary to chain yourself up while tripping then you probably shouldn't be tripping in the first place. Remember set & setting is key to having a positive experience. Also remember that mushrooms tend to amplify your current frame of mind/mood/emotions.


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    #22233141 - 09/13/15 06:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

1 gram is likely a safe dosage without a sitter.

As bigfeely pointed out, don't go doing 2.5-3 grams on your first trip. I'm not even sure why people recommend such high doses for a first time trippers. It seems like foolish advice to me.


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: TBJ12]
    #22233574 - 09/13/15 07:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The first time i ever tripped i was in my house solo ( little siblings where home)i was 16 and i ate prolly a half 8th of cyanescenes i found at the park by my house i litteraly spent 3 hours in the dark laughing at nothing! Best thing to keep in mind is to always remember you just ate mushrooms while you are tripping iv had a buddy forget that and he called the cops on himself.a buddy helps alot! I had mine over the phone but it was fine in my eyes have a safe trip haha!


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: TBJ12]
    #22233625 - 09/13/15 07:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

TBJ12 said:
1 gram is likely a safe dosage without a sitter.

As bigfeely pointed out, don't go doing 2.5-3 grams on your first trip. I'm not even sure why people recommend such high doses for a first time trippers. It seems like foolish advice to me.




People recommend higher doses because of the ego. At low doses the ego can still hold on and effect the trip. When you dose high, the ego has no choice but to dissolve. At threshold doses of .5-1g, many people get stuck in the uncomfortable come-up, possibly making the trip quite negative. When you dose high enough, you sail right through the come-upto the peak, giving the ego little chance to fight back.

OP, just prepare yourself for an induced state of psychosis. Remember that you took a drug and you will eventually come down off of the drug. Most trips usually last around 6-8 hours so put a timer on it if you like.

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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: HamHead]
    #22233688 - 09/13/15 07:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I am not arguing with you but sometimes at higher doses one can fight with "ego loss" and that can put the tripper in a fight or flight mode situation. It is not pretty... Most likely you'll come to it again & realize you trashed your whole house or something to that effect.

That is why I recommend a low dose to begin with. Because even if OP does get some anxiety, it will not be so severe to where he is fighting tooth & nail to "stay alive" or what he thinks is himself dying.


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #22234562 - 09/13/15 09:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I don't know if I need the chains or not lol. I just don't want to run down the street naked. Looking through the older threads, we've had a disturbing amount of people who for some reason, ran down the street naked. Some were picked up by the cops, others had worse things happen. I'm trying to avoid that. At least the chains would prevent me from trashing my house or running down the street naked.


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: bennylava]
    #22234728 - 09/13/15 10:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Iv never lost it like that ever! The worst iv had was getting negative vibes did you check on what amount they took?


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: bennylava]
    #22234878 - 09/13/15 11:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

up to 2 grams i think the worst that can happen is that you have a bad time.

in my experience at lower doses, people are always aware that they took shrooms and it is the reason for their current
situation, and a careful person such as yourself may or may not be overwhelmed by the experience, but will continue to be a careful person.

if you can handle yourself reasonably well under pressure i would say you are safe up to 2 grams.
0.2 grams is about threshold so 0.5 should be enough to at least 'get high' and test your sensitivity
but i would advise against making any assumptions about how higher doses might effect you based on that experience.


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: DaveyJones6911]
    #22234985 - 09/13/15 11:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Great idea 2 gs was my first trip! Haha i was a big stoner so it reminded me of being hyper stoned but with a shit tone of laughing at least my first time but every trip for me is a little different if you smoke pot you should be able to handle the 2 grams no problem especialy if they are cubes!


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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: LTspendIT]
    #22234989 - 09/13/15 11:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: So how bout this.. [Re: LTspendIT]
    #22235526 - 09/14/15 06:56 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

A lot of good advice here. :smile: I'm happy to see that there's not a plethora of comments advocating for you to take unreasonable amounts of mushrooms. :thumbup:


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