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Peyote Road
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guys i need help putting myself back together after mescaline overdose 1
#22227605 - 09/12/15 03:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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So I ODed on mescaline, not in a physical sense but I mean I got insanely potent cactus and I took way too much.
It was absolutely comsic, i wont even begin to describe it but everyting worked out great, I came back to my ego in one piece and was feeling full of joy and acceptance. Then I made the stupid decision to smoke some hash, which normally always helps me but this time in sent into a bad trip.
all my defence mechanisms broke down and all my unresolved unconsciously material poured into my consciosness but i was not able to work through it. I got stuck in a state of resistance and depersonalization. i realized was a stupid stoned idiot i am and how i need to quit smoking cannabis.
I then smoked more hash to try to go back "out there" and see if i could fix what I messed up. This was somewhat successful thanks to BoB marley, who helped me my find my ryhthm again (oh btw, i was shown why white people have no rythm, rhythm is a natural thing but whites have gone so far out of alignment with nature they have lost their rhythm)
but anyway, how do i put myself back together now? I never should have smoked that hash. I feel depersonalized, lost in space, trapped up between a rock and a hard place in my mind and devoid of love. my old identity has died and i am reborn, but as this wretched thing.
this has been an absolute disaster. smoking hash on thhat much mescaline was just too much. i angered the peyote spirits by violating the sanctity of the peyote ceremony by adding hash to it, when traditionally there is no hash at peyote ceremony.
and then there is the issue of the spiders. they began to crawl all over me and in my sleeping bag, next thing i know i am seeing spiders everywhere and realizin i am afraid of spiders. i felt like those spirders violated the sancity of the ceremony, but one good thing is i was able to understand the spider spirit thanks to native american legends i had read about spiders.
anyway, i am just looking for advice on how to go about reassembling myself and living life as a person again, or am i to remain as this thing?
man, this trip really did a number on me. i would say it was equiv to 1000 to 1200 micrograms of LSD plus the hash, and it was beautiful and wonderful until i smoked the hash.
i am probably going to have to trip again just to heal myself from this trip
-------------------- The path of the herbalist is to open ourselves to nature in an innocent and pure way. SHe in turn will open her bounty and reward us with many valuable secrets. May the earth bless you. - Michael Tierra
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Re: guys i need help putting myself back together after mescaline overdose [Re: Peyote Road]
#22227639 - 09/12/15 03:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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is it possible i did some kind of damage to my nervous system? i feel empty inside, whereas before the hash I felt full of love and peace and joy. what have i done to myself? its like theres nothing left of me, just this jagged unfillable emptiness.
be careful combining cannabis with ridiculously intense cactus trips folks. this combo can get a little out of hand, major splitting of the ego, being in different places at once,
-------------------- The path of the herbalist is to open ourselves to nature in an innocent and pure way. SHe in turn will open her bounty and reward us with many valuable secrets. May the earth bless you. - Michael Tierra
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Re: guys i need help putting myself back together after mescaline overdose [Re: Peyote Road]
#22227651 - 09/12/15 03:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just ask yourself, what really changed? The answer my friend is nothing. All that happened was you took some drugs and got high, otherwise your life is exactly the same as it was before, you have absolutely nothing to be depressed about that you didnt have before.
It may take a day or two for this to sink in, just go back to your usual routine. Keep your mind occupied, try not to just sit there on your bed thinking about how shitty everything is.
I was right where you are now after my 1500ug lsd trip, you feel broken, like theres all these things you need to do but you have no idea what it is. Like there are all these things in your life that you need to change, like its all been a big lie so far.
It'll pass man, trust me. Like I said just try to keep your mind occupied and you'll be fine in a few days, your ego will heal.
Keep us updated!
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Re: guys i need help putting myself back together after mescaline overdose [Re: xThunder]
#22227728 - 09/12/15 04:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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all you need to do is make sure you keep yourself hydrated and well food with food thats actually good for you for the next couple days, let things balance out.
the only other thing you need is time, time to reflect upon your experiance, keep it with you and over only time will you figure things out about it.
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Re: guys i need help putting myself back together after mescaline overdose [Re: Peyote Road] 1
#22228125 - 09/12/15 05:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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This is coming from the same guy saying that natural is always better. Looks like the universe decided to teach you a hard lesson. My advice; it's sobriety time. Stop everything...including pot & alcohol for a while. Exercise on a regular basis, eat a solid balanced diet, get enough sleep & meditate for at least 30 minutes per day. Yoga would be great as well. Getting yourself back on track will take time, but doing the above will greatly speed up the process.
An aside; it doesn't take 1,000 mics to hit ego death. Out of curiosity, have you ever taken that much....knowing beyond a doubt that it was?
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Re: guys i need help putting myself back together after mescaline overdose [Re: Peyote Road]
#22228764 - 09/12/15 07:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Peyote Road said: (oh btw, i was shown why white people have no rythm, rhythm is a natural thing but whites have gone so far out of alignment with nature they have lost their rhythm)
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Re: guys i need help putting myself back together after mescaline overdose [Re: Sheekle] 1
#22228991 - 09/12/15 08:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sheekle said:
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Peyote Road said: (oh btw, i was shown why white people have no rythm, rhythm is a natural thing but whites have gone so far out of alignment with nature they have lost their rhythm)
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More like fucking stupid. Maybe we whites have no rhythm because we are the most evolved species and you don't need rhythm to survive. We lost our rhythm first. Maybe in a few thousand years the blacks will catch up and lose theirs.
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Re: guys i need help putting myself back together after mescaline overdose [Re: Bill_Oreilly] 2
#22229004 - 09/12/15 09:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm a white as fuck hillbilly. Ya'll should see me play the spoons.
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Re: guys i need help putting myself back together after mescaline overdose [Re: Peyote Road]
#22229391 - 09/12/15 10:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Peyote Road said: is it possible i did some kind of damage to my nervous system? i feel empty inside, whereas before the hash I felt full of love and peace and joy. what have i done to myself? its like theres nothing left of me, just this jagged unfillable emptiness.
be careful combining cannabis with ridiculously intense cactus trips folks. this combo can get a little out of hand, major splitting of the ego, being in different places at once,
If symptoms persist for more than a few days, make an appointment with a psychiatrist. If hallucinatory symptoms persist more than 24 hours (assuming you sleep), then immediately make an appointment with a psychiatrist.
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Re: guys i need help putting myself back together after mescaline overdose [Re: Peyote Road]
#22229409 - 09/12/15 10:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think mescaline can have a similar effect to MDMA in that it can leave you a little serotonin depleted the next day. I could be wrong about it, but it seems that can be the case from what I've seen.
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Re: guys i need help putting myself back together after mescaline overdose [Re: Dark_Star]
#22233657 - 09/13/15 07:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I am doing ok guys. I lost a piece of myself on this trip and I spent about 24 hours grieving the loss. My ego has come back together but its not the same as before. I am a different person now, than I was before this trip. However, I think I actually like the change. I am more spiritual now. Some doors in mind were blown open and they have not shut. I know I need to quit smoking weed/hash, but I want to experience another dose of mescaline like this (maybe a little less) without weed. The hash just ruined it and made me feel like a psychotic idiot.
I was shown deep truths about life on this trip that my ego was not ready for. I saw heaven, hell and the devil. I also saw myself from an objective perspective and all my faults became quite apparent to me. This was very difficult, but I believe I have come out a better person for having seen this. I know I need to make some serious changes to myself and hopefully this trip will finally be the motivation. It is one thing to believe in God, it is another to actually experience God's judgment, be judged unworthy and go to hell.
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Dark_Star said: This is coming from the same guy saying that natural is always better. Looks like the universe decided to teach you a hard lesson. My advice; it's sobriety time. Stop everything...including pot & alcohol for a while. Exercise on a regular basis, eat a solid balanced diet, get enough sleep & meditate for at least 30 minutes per day. Yoga would be great as well. Getting yourself back on track will take time, but doing the above will greatly speed up the process.
An aside; it doesn't take 1,000 mics to hit ego death. Out of curiosity, have you ever taken that much....knowing beyond a doubt that it was?
ok first of all, I still think natural is better. I did something stupid, I took 3 gravity bongs hits of hash while on an insane dose of mescaline. I have read about the exact same thing happening to people with LSD and weed. I think it would have been worse had it been LSD because I seem to suffer more after effects from LSD.
Second, yes I have taken that much knowing what it was. I mean no I didn't measure the micrograms but I had a sheet of really good acid, friends of mine experienced with LSD said it was the best LSD they had ever taken and it was obviously the real deal, two hits was a powerful experience. I took 12 of those. So, they had to be close to 100 ug per hit, even if they were only say 80, twelve times 80 is 960 and there is just no way they were significantly less than that. Second, ego death is not always dose dependent. while it is more likely on higher doses, its not guaranteed. I have experienced ego death on a couple hits of weed before, and I did not experience ego death on LSD ever, very very close of course but a tiny piece of my ego managed to hang on.
-------------------- The path of the herbalist is to open ourselves to nature in an innocent and pure way. SHe in turn will open her bounty and reward us with many valuable secrets. May the earth bless you. - Michael Tierra
Edited by Peyote Road (09/13/15 07:32 PM)
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Re: guys i need help putting myself back together after mescaline overdose [Re: Peyote Road]
#22234420 - 09/13/15 09:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Glad to hear you are feeling OK now. Sometimes both the shock of the experience and the shift in brain chemistry can be a little overwhelming. Sounds like you learned some good lessons, now to put them into action! Reminds me of some difficult mushroom experiences I've had that taught me some good lessons. Sometimes I had to learn the same lesson more than once though. Guess I'm kinda hardheaded like that.
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Re: guys i need help putting myself back together after mescaline overdose [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#22234647 - 09/13/15 09:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sheekle said:
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Peyote Road said: (oh btw, i was shown why white people have no rythm, rhythm is a natural thing but whites have gone so far out of alignment with nature they have lost their rhythm)
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More like fucking stupid. Maybe we whites have no rhythm because we are the most evolved species and you don't need rhythm to survive. We lost our rhythm first. Maybe in a few thousand years the blacks will catch up and lose theirs.
The Beatles have no rythm? Eminem? Hank Williams/Jr/3? Rolling Stones? Deicide? Sex Pistols? The Doors? Waylon Jennings? AC/DC? Slade? The Slits? Eric Clapton? What the fuck are you talking about?
I'm still feeling mescaline, it leaves me very lazy and content. Coming down is hard, had some mad itching. Will go again tonight.
Edited by usulpsychonaut (09/13/15 09:58 PM)
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Re: guys i need help putting myself back together after mescaline overdose [Re: usulpsychonaut]
#22234699 - 09/13/15 10:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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its not all white people, of course there are white people with rhytm. i mean, as a race, white people lack rhythm. just look at our culture, society. it's not exactly harmonious, is it?
many of the more indiginous peoples have more of a beat. they are in tune with the natural rhythms of life.
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Re: guys i need help putting myself back together after mescaline overdose [Re: Peyote Road]
#22234805 - 09/13/15 10:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yo....Hall and Oats !.....nuff said playboy! 
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Re: guys i need help putting myself back together after mescaline overdose [Re: Peyote Road]
#22235323 - 09/14/15 03:25 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Peyote Road said: its not all white people, of course there are white people with rhytm. i mean, as a race, white people lack rhythm. just look at our culture, society. it's not exactly harmonious, is it?
many of the more indiginous peoples have more of a beat. they are in tune with the natural rhythms of life.
Or just "the poor" of whatever race.
That is why Christ said "It would be easier for a camel to pass thru the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the Realm of Heaven".
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Re: guys i need help putting myself back together after mescaline overdose [Re: voodoochild1000]
#22235558 - 09/14/15 07:19 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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voodoochild1000 said: Yo....Hall and Oats !.....nuff said playboy!  
...come on ...that shit is hilarious!lmfao
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Re: guys i need help putting myself back together after mescaline overdose [Re: Peyote Road]
#22238922 - 09/14/15 10:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just how does this chaos become ordered again? I've certainly lost my Rythm now.
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Re: guys i need help putting myself back together after mescaline overdose [Re: Peyote Road]
#22239373 - 09/15/15 12:23 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Peyote Road said:
i am probably going to have to trip again just to heal myself from this trip
Well that's retarded. That's the difference between you kids and my generation. Whenever something was too much we quit. You think this shit is medicine or something? You don't fix previous bad trips with more drugs, you heal the damage by quitting. You guys don't want to hear this shit do you? You are better off quitting, psychedelic drugs are not for everyone and almost everyone quits. Sorry I don't take part in the group denial this board so often entails, you should quit.
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Re: guys i need help putting myself back together after mescaline overdose [Re: my3rdeye] 1
#22239448 - 09/15/15 12:45 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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you dont know what you're talking about man. I just fixed it with some DMT.
I have fixed bad trips with other trips many times. I know the advice to quit sounds good but its actually not good advice for a number of reasons.
Anyway, today I was reading LSD psychotherapy by Stanislov Grof. He says, if you have a bad trip, you should schedule another trip as soon as possible.
He says this is because bad trips are not caused by some unpredictable effect of LSD but because of unresolved material in the subjects unconscious. Therefore, the best thing to do is go back and attempt to resolve that material.
So thats what I did, I smoked some DMT, went straight back to that place of ego dissolution, accepted it, surrendered to it and then was reborn into a world of incredible beauty.
You dont give up on psychedelics becase of one bad trip. How silly.
-------------------- The path of the herbalist is to open ourselves to nature in an innocent and pure way. SHe in turn will open her bounty and reward us with many valuable secrets. May the earth bless you. - Michael Tierra
Edited by Peyote Road (09/15/15 12:46 AM)
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