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Re: WHy I don't trust Bernie. [Re: BoldAsLove]
    #22228669 - 09/12/15 07:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

If we can't get trump we will do better with Bernie than the others.


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Re: WHy I don't trust Bernie. [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22229174 - 09/12/15 09:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Bernie isn't 'Just' a career politician. He's the longest serving Independent in US history, and he's been standing up against the status quo for decades.


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Re: WHy I don't trust Bernie. [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22230321 - 09/13/15 08:06 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Bernie isn't 'Just' a career politician. He's the longest serving Independent in US history, and he's been standing up against the status quo for decades.




But he's running as Dem, therefore Obama. :rolleyes:


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Re: WHy I don't trust Bernie. [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22244060 - 09/16/15 12:08 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Bigbadwooof said:
Bernie isn't 'Just' a career politician. He's the longest serving Independent in US history, and he's been standing up against the status quo for decades.





"Independent"  ....as if....  :lolsy:


i have no idea who is going to win...Carson is pulling close to even with trump......Jeb is suddenly 'reagan'  (excuse e while i vomit) Hillary is a total liar and outright buffoon.....biden is being encouraged NOT to run.

I really expect that the DNC, under the direction of David Assholerod, is going to roll out an unknown at the last minute and people will suddenly roll their eyes, and see a 'savior' and like sheep float another turd into the white house.

what we really need is someone who, on the first day in office, dismantles all of Obumbles executive orders and starts returning the rule of law to our government.  And that ain't gonna be a bernie, and probably not a Donald.


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Re: WHy I don't trust Bernie. [Re: starfire_xes]
    #22244333 - 09/16/15 03:00 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

He is the longest serving independent in congressional history... Do you disagree with that fact?


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Re: WHy I don't trust Bernie. [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22244468 - 09/16/15 06:00 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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He is the longest serving independent in congressional history... Do you disagree with that fact?




I disagree with the fact that he is an independent.  can you show me a history of voting where he didn't vote in lockstep with democrats?  AND where he did'nt vote the status quo when d's and r's 'reached across the aisle' and forced shit policy down our throats?  that will impress me.


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Re: WHy I don't trust Bernie. [Re: starfire_xes]
    #22244484 - 09/16/15 06:11 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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He is the longest serving independent in congressional history... Do you disagree with that fact?




I disagree with the fact that he is an independent.  can you show me a history of voting where he didn't vote in lockstep with democrats?  AND where he did'nt vote the status quo when d's and r's 'reached across the aisle' and forced shit policy down our throats?  that will impress me.




If I have two co-workers who are both dicks, but I have more in common with one of them, I'm pro ably gonna hang out with him more than the super dick.

Besides, Bernie is an excellent legislator and wouldn't be so if he refused to talk to anyone who doesn't agree with him 100%, and vice versa.


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Re: WHy I don't trust Bernie. [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #22244490 - 09/16/15 06:14 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Always a game of whack a mole with you.

He's a career politician. Ok actually he does need experience, but he's still a socialist. Ok well not really but he's secretly a blue blood Democrat! Ok not really but he's gonna ram policy down our throats!




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Re: WHy I don't trust Bernie. [Re: starfire_xes]
    #22244492 - 09/16/15 06:15 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So, let me get this straight; Trump is running against Bernie, and Bernie is winning?

Bernie's the guy in the middle, yes?




American politics can be so strange.


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Re: WHy I don't trust Bernie. [Re: Arctic W. Fox]
    #22245239 - 09/16/15 10:37 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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So, let me get this straight; Trump is running against Bernie, and Bernie is winning?

Bernie's the guy in the middle, yes?




American politics can be so strange.




About the stupidest comment I've seen on this forum.


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Re: WHy I don't trust Bernie. [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22245280 - 09/16/15 10:46 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Your comment could be interpreted a couple ways.

Either you don't read most of the comments here or your sense of humor took the day off.


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Re: WHy I don't trust Bernie. [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22245362 - 09/16/15 11:02 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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So, let me get this straight; Trump is running against Bernie, and Bernie is winning?

Bernie's the guy in the middle, yes?




American politics can be so strange.




About the stupidest comment I've seen on this forum.




Give it time. It's barely election season.


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Re: WHy I don't trust Bernie. [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22246000 - 09/16/15 01:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

You children are so fucking wound up. Go cry to your mommy.

Pathetic, that your little lives completely revolve around something you have absolutely no control over.

Losers.


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Re: WHy I don't trust Bernie. [Re: Arctic W. Fox]
    #22246041 - 09/16/15 01:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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You children are so fucking wound up. Go cry to your mommy.

Pathetic, that your little lives completely revolve around something you have absolutely no control over.

Losers.




You better watch how you talk to people around here, guy.


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Re: WHy I don't trust Bernie. [Re: starfire_xes]
    #22246880 - 09/16/15 04:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I really expect that the DNC, under the direction of David Assholerod, is going to roll out an unknown at the last minute and people will suddenly roll their eyes, and see a 'savior' and like sheep float another turd into the white house.






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Re: WHy I don't trust Bernie. [Re: Arctic W. Fox]
    #22246966 - 09/16/15 05:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Arctic W. Fox said:
You children are so fucking wound up. Go cry to your mommy.

Pathetic, that your little lives completely revolve around something you have absolutely no control over.

Losers.




Dont kill yourself over a bad joke, dude.

Theres always tomorrow, you could be in line at Starbucks and the guy in front of you could say "I need a large this morning," and you could fire back "thats what she said." And everyone will laugh and laugh, and youll feel important again. :thumbup:


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Re: WHy I don't trust Bernie. [Re: starfire_xes]
    #22250423 - 09/17/15 10:24 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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He is the longest serving independent in congressional history... Do you disagree with that fact?




I disagree with the fact that he is an independent.  can you show me a history of voting where he didn't vote in lockstep with democrats?  AND where he did'nt vote the status quo when d's and r's 'reached across the aisle' and forced shit policy down our throats?  that will impress me.




http://usuncut.com/class-war/general-electric-ships-jobs-overseas-corporate-welfare/

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GE, which claims Congress’s failure to reauthorize the Export-Import Bank (Ex-Im) is the reason for its threat, received $35.8 billion in taxpayer-funded contracts between 2000 and 2012. To get an idea of how much that is, that figure is 7 times more money than GE made in profits in 2010. The fact that GE wants the Ex-Im bank reauthorized is an open admittance of the company’s dependence on taxpayer handouts — the bank is the poster child of corporate welfare. Before Republicans blocked its reauthorization, the bank had an estimated $112 billion portfolio. Its 2013 annual report revealed that 81 percent of its portfolio subsidized multinational corporations — two-thirds of which went to just ten companies that made hundreds of millions, and even billions in profit.

The major media has so far failed to counteract GE’s claims about the Ex-Im bank being the reason for shipping jobs overseas. Hillary Clinton and other Democrats have inexplicably gone to bat for the Ex-Im bank. In fact, the only non-Republican to vote against the bank’s re-authorization was Bernie Sanders.




Impressed?


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Re: WHy I don't trust Bernie. [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22251338 - 09/17/15 01:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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starfire_xes said:
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Bigbadwooof said:
He is the longest serving independent in congressional history... Do you disagree with that fact?




I disagree with the fact that he is an independent.  can you show me a history of voting where he didn't vote in lockstep with democrats?  AND where he did'nt vote the status quo when d's and r's 'reached across the aisle' and forced shit policy down our throats?  that will impress me.




http://usuncut.com/class-war/general-electric-ships-jobs-overseas-corporate-welfare/

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GE, which claims Congress’s failure to reauthorize the Export-Import Bank (Ex-Im) is the reason for its threat, received $35.8 billion in taxpayer-funded contracts between 2000 and 2012. To get an idea of how much that is, that figure is 7 times more money than GE made in profits in 2010. The fact that GE wants the Ex-Im bank reauthorized is an open admittance of the company’s dependence on taxpayer handouts — the bank is the poster child of corporate welfare. Before Republicans blocked its reauthorization, the bank had an estimated $112 billion portfolio. Its 2013 annual report revealed that 81 percent of its portfolio subsidized multinational corporations — two-thirds of which went to just ten companies that made hundreds of millions, and even billions in profit.

The major media has so far failed to counteract GE’s claims about the Ex-Im bank being the reason for shipping jobs overseas. Hillary Clinton and other Democrats have inexplicably gone to bat for the Ex-Im bank. In fact, the only non-Republican to vote against the bank’s re-authorization was Bernie Sanders.




Impressed?




Look at that, Bernie voting against corporate welfare. I'm shocked that Republicans voted against that, actually. Maybe I am misunderstanding something but the Ex-Im Bank seems like something they would support. They do love their corporate welfare programs. I have to give conservatives kudos on this one. If the government is going to subsidize to the point of virtually doubling a comoanies profits, then that company should be publicly owned.

Great post, ppw.


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Re: WHy I don't trust Bernie. [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22251446 - 09/17/15 02:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Looks like it's the free market/libertarian leaning GOP.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/16/business/economy/export-import-bank-general-electric-boeing.html?_r=0

Here's a quote from Bernie on it.  Sorry I'm on my tablet so just linking articles.

http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/sanders-votes-against-ex-im-bank


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Re: WHy I don't trust Bernie. [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22251724 - 09/17/15 03:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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paperbackwriter said:
Looks like it's the free market/libertarian leaning GOP.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/16/business/economy/export-import-bank-general-electric-boeing.html?_r=0

Here's a quote from Bernie on it.  Sorry I'm on my tablet so just linking articles.

http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/sanders-votes-against-ex-im-bank




This is why I occasionally agree with the Libertarians. They are guided by an ideology that doesn't always have corporate interest at its core. This helps Republicans make good moves, occasionally.

I just want to point out that Elizabeth Warren strongly supports Ex-Im. People were disappointed when she didn't jump in instead of Bernie, but I actually really prefer him. Warren is very pro-Israel also. I do think she would have had this election in the bag though, honestly.


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