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somechick
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Re: FIRST & LAST time shrooms, 5+ grams out of body experience AND went blind [Re: Hanz]
#22419880 - 10/22/15 07:44 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks man, im glad you like my writing! And ill keep that in mind next time. Ill make sure im somewhere safe, and my scale isnt broken
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Nature Boy
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Re: FIRST & LAST time shrooms, 5+ grams out of body experience AND went blind [Re: somechick]
#22426963 - 10/24/15 12:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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So much fail in this thread. 
Consumed an unknown dose; Failed to have a sitter/backup plan; Tried to abort the un-abortable with Xanax in utterly inappropriate doses; Lied to parents and medical professionals about what you had ingested...and on and on.
At what part in this whole charade did you forget that the "lethal dose" of cubensis is essentially infinity? All you managed to do is take up a cubicle in an emergency room better suited to an individual with a legitimate medical need, and turned a bunch of medical professionals into your babysitters because of your numerous errors in judgment.

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Hanz
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Re: FIRST & LAST time shrooms, 5+ grams out of body experience AND went blind [Re: Nature Boy]
#22427978 - 10/24/15 04:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nature Boy said: So much fail in this thread. 
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Nature Boy, I always love to read your posts. You are well informed and experienced, and usually right. As you are now. Did OP do stupid things? Plenty!
However, I also believe that sometimes, people who make mistakes should be approached with sympathy and simply positively encouraged to do things better next time.
If you don't, you run the risk of exposing your own bitter side, which (I think) does not help them at all. And I wonder if it helped you in any way...
Sorry if this bugs you , I mean well for all. Respect. 
Love, Hanz.
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Nature Boy
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Re: FIRST & LAST time shrooms, 5+ grams out of body experience AND went blind [Re: Hanz]
#22428118 - 10/24/15 04:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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No, I'm not upset at all with what you wrote. Furthermore, I'm certainly not displaying a "bitter" side - rather, I'm displaying what you might call a unique side, which I will explain.
As a cardiac, thoracic, and vascular surgeon who has spent many, many hours over far too many years moonlighting in an emergency room, I have a certain bias against patients showing up in an emergency room setting under non-emergent circumstances. Folks with no primary care physicians, for example, who use the ER every time they get a cold or the flu or a bump or a cut. We call them "GOOMERS" which stands for "Get Out Of My Emergency Room."
In this particular case, OP was a GOOMER. She had no business taking up valuable ER resources and personnel. She had >>NO<< life threatening illness or injury, Plus...how are you supposed to appropriately treat a patient who lies about the cause of her distress??? Do you have any idea what kind of professional conundrum that creates as you try and develop a differential diagnosis from bad data?? It leads to a LOT of unnecessary, costly and time consuming testing to arrive at a conclusion that could have been established in two seconds if given an accurate history of present illness. And I guess you've not ever considered that there is no such thing as an innocuous medical procedure. Even drawing blood or starting a simple IV can have dire consequences - dire enough that you can get sued.
Sorry...the OP was wrong at nearly every turn. People who do what she did deserve to be roundly criticized and made to understand what kind of trouble they cause OTHER people. Everybody is focusing on the OP. She was never in even the slightest medical danger. What about folks like her parents and the ambulance corps and the ER staff? They all got the shit end of the stick and she gets to post on the Shroomery and get all kinds of kind words and sympathy. We are there to take care of sick (sometimes dying) people. We are NOT there to be conscripted into becoming someone's fucking babysitter or trip-sitter.
I hope we now understand each other better.
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Re: FIRST & LAST time shrooms, 5+ grams out of body experience AND went blind [Re: Nature Boy]
#22428343 - 10/24/15 05:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Very good. I think I do understand your point of view much better now.
Therefore, I also think that maybe your long explanation was of more help and insight to the OP than your short one. The short one was more easy to be mistaken as just bitter (although 100% right).
OP, did you read this? Reflect on this please. Nature Boy has a rather good take on this, don't you think?
Love, Hanz.
N.B: I'm from a family of doctors and surgeons. The reality of what you describe is easy for me to imagine. Still, I did not want to reprimand the OP too harshly. In my view that was not what I'm here for. And like I think you admit, your view on this is driven by a certain frustration. Justified, certainly, but still frustrated to a degree. I just wanted to avoid those vibes when choosing my own words. It is entirely possible that that was unfounded idealism on my part... I just prefer my own words that way.
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Re: FIRST & LAST time shrooms, 5+ grams out of body experience AND went blind [Re: Hanz]
#22428536 - 10/24/15 06:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nicely put. I'm grateful that we understand each other better. You are certainly right that the short version came off a bit harsh...but I do bristle at certain things, and violation of some cardinal rules not only waste medical resources as I've already said, but also give psychedelics a black eye at a time when legitimate and valuable medical research is finally resuming after a fifty year hiatus. Instances like this only serve to give opponents of that trend another data point in support their opposition! It's just bad for the psychedelic community in general. We owe each other a duty of care not to spoil it for the rest of us!
To the OP, a couple of words of wisdom in the spirit of helpfulness:
Know your dose, know yourself. (This means no GUESSING or ESTIMATING or asking someone else - which unfairly shifts the responsibility onto some poor hapless schmo)
It's easier to STAY out of trouble than to GET out of trouble.
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Re: FIRST & LAST time shrooms, 5+ grams out of body experience AND went blind [Re: Nature Boy]
#22431954 - 10/25/15 01:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm very happy we're in harmony here Nature Boy 
Thank you for making me more acutely aware of your point of view. I'm certain I'll keep it in mind in the future.
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Nature Boy said: ... legitimate and valuable medical research is finally resuming after a fifty year hiatus. Instances like this only serve to give opponents of that trend another data point in support their opposition! It's just bad for the psychedelic community in general. We owe each other a duty of care not to spoil it for the rest of us!
This is the most important point.
Love, Hanz.
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Re: FIRST & LAST time shrooms, 5+ grams out of body experience AND went blind [Re: Hanz]
#22432120 - 10/25/15 02:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Same here, my friend! 
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somechick
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Re: FIRST & LAST time shrooms, 5+ grams out of body experience AND went blind [Re: Nature Boy]
#22437806 - 10/26/15 09:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I do understand I made a big mistake that day... and as cliche as I might sound- everyone makes mistakes. That day truly was humbling enough as it was. You don't need to try and instill any more humility in me at this point. BTW- I admitted to have taken shrooms before I got to the hospital. And even if I wasn't on shrooms I needed to have been taken to the ER... I had a massive panic attack where I couldn't breathe well enough, vision was getting blurry, heart rate was peaking at 145 bpm, sobbing and pulling out my hair, chest was in pain, felt really nauseous, dizzy as hell, my whole body felt numb and I was shaking like a fucking vibrator in the fetal position in my room for an hour. Now add that to the effects of the mushrooms and you have one hell of a recipe for a terrifying night. Now if i saw someone having a panic attack like that I wouldn't just tell them to 'let it wear off' as you are saying i should've done, I certainly would've taken them to get some help. And even then I didn't want to go to the ER because I knew deep down that I can't die from mushrooms, but my father forced me. He used to do mushrooms, and once I admitted to him I grew the 'other type of mushrooms' he understood but still took me to the hospital. I am certainly not proud of what happened that day but I am not upset anymore. Hope you don't remain 'angry' at me. Regardless, have a nice day.
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Re: FIRST & LAST time shrooms, 5+ grams out of body experience AND went blind [Re: somechick]
#22449200 - 10/29/15 01:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Not 'angry' here OP. Like I implied earlier, I think the trip itself was more than enough punishment.
I hope you can think of this thread as a successful addition to your experience.
Next time, if there will be a next time, please be more prepared.
Love, Hanz.
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Re: FIRST & LAST time shrooms, 5+ grams out of body experience AND went blind [Re: Hanz]
#22462463 - 11/01/15 01:49 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wow that's risky
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Hanz
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Re: FIRST & LAST time shrooms, 5+ grams out of body experience AND went blind [Re: bigpeat]
#22462513 - 11/01/15 02:00 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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bigpeat said: Wow that's risky
What's risky? What OP did, or what I said?
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somechick
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Re: FIRST & LAST time shrooms, 5+ grams out of body experience AND went blind [Re: Hanz]
#22466638 - 11/02/15 01:16 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes i understand you aren't angry, everything you said I agree with. I agree with almost everything "Nature boy" had to say as well. But I was actually trying to respond to 'Nature boy' in regards to his angry appeal. But thank you anyways
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Edited by somechick (11/02/15 01:22 PM)
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Re: FIRST & LAST time shrooms, 5+ grams out of body experience AND went blind [Re: somechick]
#22471252 - 11/03/15 02:02 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Great story. Grabbed my attention, love the ones where people end up in hospital or jail. It sucks you ate too much and got freaked. Mushrooms can be recreational once you become familiar with it. You'll always have uncomfortable thoughts but you have to listen and learn what the mushrooms are telling you.
When I'm peaking I can't do anything but lay down with music and float off into another space. Once I was hearing my self think out loud and it was distorting like an alien. You have to be somewhat fearless of dieing or going insane, you'll be fine just remember that. Even my scariest trips the peak fades away and you have the most blissful feeling imaginable with smooth bright visuals and its always been worth it.
Good luck with future endeavors
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Re: FIRST & LAST time doing shrooms, 5+ grams out of body experience, another dimension &went blind [Re: somechick]
#22518420 - 11/13/15 02:53 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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No way in hell thats more than 5 gs
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