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The devil is like those companies that have a great sales pitch but are actually complete scams * 1
    #22223942 - 09/11/15 07:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The devil is a sweet talker, you know, the sort who could sell a screen door to a submarine.

But when your screen door malfunctions on the first day and you call up customer service to ask about the 2 year warranty or the 30 day money back guarantee and you get no answer, you realize you've been scammed. They are only nice to you until they have your money. Then their demeanor changes.

That's just how the devil is, only he is after your soul rather than your wallet.


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Re: The devil is like those companies that have a great sales pitch but are actually complete scams [Re: Peyote Road]
    #22223954 - 09/11/15 08:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

who is the devil? :smile:


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Re: The devil is like those companies that have a great sales pitch but are actually complete scams [Re: deff]
    #22223980 - 09/11/15 08:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

There's no real answer to that as far as I'm concerned, I mean you can consult 10 different theologeans and get 10 different answers. All good in their own ways of course, but I don't like giving strict definitions to spiritual principles. You must figure out who the devil, or evil force is for you.

But if you want an answer, for now I will say he is the guy who inspires those scam companies that just want to take from you and don't care at all about you or making a product that is worthwhile to own. He inspires that sort of behavior among men.


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Re: The devil is like those companies that have a great sales pitch but are actually complete scams [Re: Peyote Road]
    #22223990 - 09/11/15 08:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

would you hold the view that the devil is also a part of ourselves? like the view that the devil is another term for negative egoic tendencies? that's the way that Yogananda described it if i remember correctly :smile:


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Re: The devil is like those companies that have a great sales pitch but are actually complete scams [Re: deff]
    #22224070 - 09/11/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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would you hold the view that the devil is also a part of ourselves? like the view that the devil is another term for negative egoic tendencies? that's the way that Yogananda described it if i remember correctly :smile:



That sounds about right to me man. Nothing I can say could substantiate this but based on what I've learned and experienced thus far it sounds pretty spot on. I mean if 'god' is in all of us, then why not the 'devil' too?


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Re: The devil is like those companies that have a great sales pitch but are actually complete scams [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #22224086 - 09/11/15 08:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

here's an interesting talk I just came across now about Satan from a disciple of Yogananda's:



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would you hold the view that the devil is also a part of ourselves? like the view that the devil is another term for negative egoic tendencies? that's the way that Yogananda described it if i remember correctly :smile:



That sounds about right to me man. Nothing I can say could substantiate this but based on what I've learned and experienced thus far it sounds pretty spot on. I mean if 'god' is in all of us, then why not the 'devil' too?



yeah I would agree with this too. if the goal is non-duality and seeing through an illusion of separation, then clearly any fundamental separation of God and Satan, of God and Self, and Self and Satan would be seen through I think. you can't have wholeness and oneness by pushing away from a piece of the one whole :smile:


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Re: The devil is like those companies that have a great sales pitch but are actually complete scams [Re: deff]
    #22248092 - 09/16/15 08:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The devil is the trickster...the thief...


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Re: The devil is like those companies that have a great sales pitch but are actually complete scams [Re: deff]
    #22248460 - 09/16/15 09:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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would you hold the view that the devil is also a part of ourselves? like the view that the devil is another term for negative egoic tendencies? that's the way that Yogananda described it if i remember correctly :smile:




Yes, I would agree with that.


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Re: The devil is like those companies that have a great sales pitch but are actually complete scams [Re: Peyote Road]
    #22249598 - 09/17/15 05:30 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)



The Devil leashes us with fear and doubt.
He leads us astray with false promises and threats.
Respect the Devil but don't follow his ways.


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Re: The devil is like those companies that have a great sales pitch but are actually complete scams [Re: Peyote Road] * 1
    #22250143 - 09/17/15 09:43 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

There is no Devil. That's just God when she's drunk.


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Re: The devil is like those companies that have a great sales pitch but are actually complete scams [Re: Middleman]
    #22250381 - 09/17/15 10:13 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

There is nothing but God, but the Devil is one of its guises, definitely.


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Re: The devil is like those companies that have a great sales pitch but are actually complete scams [Re: Asante]
    #22252962 - 09/17/15 07:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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The Devil leashes us with fear and doubt.
He leads us astray with false promises and threats.
Respect the Devil but don't follow his ways.





Wow, that picture looks exactly like how the devil looked when I saw him on mescaline.


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Re: The devil is like those companies that have a great sales pitch but are actually complete scams [Re: Peyote Road]
    #22259649 - 09/19/15 10:44 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Peyote Road said:
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The Devil leashes us with fear and doubt.
He leads us astray with false promises and threats.
Respect the Devil but don't follow his ways.





Wow, that picture looks exactly like how the devil looked when I saw him on mescaline.





Its the Devil card of the Rider Waite Tarot Deck.


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Re: The devil is like those companies that have a great sales pitch but are actually complete scams [Re: Asante]
    #22259692 - 09/19/15 11:04 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The devil doesn't go around killing entire cities planets full of people.

God kills.


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Re: The devil is like those companies that have a great sales pitch but are actually complete scams [Re: Arctic W. Fox]
    #22260175 - 09/19/15 01:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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The devil doesn't go around killing entire cities planets full of people.

God kills.



Good point. Wonderfully made.


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Re: The devil is like those companies that have a great sales pitch but are actually complete scams [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #22266493 - 09/20/15 07:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I think The Devil is a misunderstood figure in our History..and of Religions on Earth or space or whatever..But i think most of the stuff he does is for the entertainment value..I as Adam..am Also the Devil..but i share my identity with many different people..the idea behind his benefactions is that to give in to our senses of pleasure..is always going to be a positive experience!


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Re: The devil is like those companies that have a great sales pitch but are actually complete scams [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #22266524 - 09/20/15 07:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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BrendanFlock said:most of the stuff he does is for the entertainment value



:grin: I agree!


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Re: The devil is like those companies that have a great sales pitch but are actually complete scams [Re: muckamuck]
    #22266552 - 09/20/15 07:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I don't know... the thought of a god turning my [ex]wife into a pillar of salt sounds amazingly entertaining to me.

I'd post that shit on YouTube.


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Re: The devil is like those companies that have a great sales pitch but are actually complete scams [Re: Arctic W. Fox] * 1
    #22266572 - 09/20/15 07:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I don't know... the thought of a god turning my [ex]wife into a pillar of salt sounds amazingly entertaining to me.

I'd post that shit on YouTube.



Amazing. Gave me a good cackle of a lol that did.


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Re: The devil is like those companies that have a great sales pitch but are actually complete scams [Re: Peyote Road]
    #22277104 - 09/23/15 12:06 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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The devil is a sweet talker, you know, the sort who could sell a screen door to a submarine.






You don't like the devil? And just who do you think the devil is?


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