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oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it
#22223921 - 09/11/15 07:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I hope this trip goes ok. I was planning to trip cactus this weekend and really looking forward to it, but I only slept 4 hour last night. Since I like to trip cactus overnight it is imperative I sleep beforehand. I spend the entire day today trying to sleep, no success, finally I just got frustrated and took the mescaline. Now I just feel tired and want to go back to bed.
Anyone ever have a really good trip in a situation like this?
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: Peyote Road]
#22223960 - 09/11/15 08:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I typically take psychedelics at night so when I trip I have already been up the entire day. By the time I am finished tripping I have been awake a full 24 hours or so. Don't worry man, everything will turn out good. Happy trails my friend!
Edited by Bigfeely123 (09/11/15 08:08 PM)
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: Bigfeely123]
#22224039 - 09/11/15 08:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Youll be fine, mescaline is probably the friendliest out of all the psychedelics. Don't even think about, just enjoy the ride!
How much did you dose?
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: xThunder]
#22224513 - 09/11/15 09:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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way, way, way too much man.
I got some new cactus and assumed it would be the same potency as the last one. boy I was ever wrong. This is like 1000 microgram LSD trip.
I have just woken up from ego death and am trying to figure out what the hell is happening. and there are a lot of demons flying around me now but my faith is shining a light in the darkness.
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: Peyote Road]
#22224529 - 09/11/15 09:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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this is going to be the most intense trip of my life and theres nothing I can do. i took like 35 inches or something.
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: Peyote Road]
#22224550 - 09/11/15 10:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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oh god, I need to go back to ego death because I cant handle this. this is absolutely cosmic.
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: Peyote Road]
#22224557 - 09/11/15 10:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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how is this even possible? What the hell happened?
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: Peyote Road]
#22224583 - 09/11/15 10:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: Sheekle]
#22224718 - 09/11/15 10:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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oh that was wonderful give me more
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: Peyote Road]
#22224743 - 09/11/15 10:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Click that, that should keep you entertained for a few hours
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: Peyote Road] 1
#22224748 - 09/11/15 10:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Calm your mind, listen to the message. Become the message..
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: Sheekle]
#22224790 - 09/11/15 10:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Also, change the option to 720p via the cog icon on the bottom right of the video on the bar for best audio quality, as long as it doesn't skip or anything.
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: Sheekle] 2
#22224835 - 09/11/15 10:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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everytime I dose mescaline I quickly regret it.
then it shows me how dumb I was to doubt its magic. never have I dosed mescaline and regretted it AFTER it was over.
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#22224865 - 09/11/15 10:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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"I used to be a famous shaman.... at burning man."
lol.
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: Peyote Road] 1
#22225179 - 09/12/15 12:02 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Your spelling and punctuation is fantastic for being spun out.
Not doubting you, just impressed.
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: Peyote Road]
#22225397 - 09/12/15 01:08 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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mescaline so clear headed that is why i can type and spell this trip has been like 1000 microgram lsd trip and of course its nowhere near over. But i mean straight up 1960s psychedelia, you open your mouth and your jaw drops onto the floor type visuals.
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: Peyote Road]
#22225442 - 09/12/15 01:26 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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oh man, i am ready to be done tripping now and this is still going insane with colors everywhere. what am i gonna do? I am not even half way done am I? oh well, i'll be ok.
I am just wondering do you guys think weed would help or not? I am already totally insane on this dose and I cant even imagine what smoking will do. Maybe I should save that for the end.
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: Peyote Road]
#22225535 - 09/12/15 02:25 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I wouldnt smoke, listen to this hang on
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: LuckeyMA] 1
#22225540 - 09/12/15 02:27 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Watch "Phish - MagnaBall - 08-22-2015" on YouTube -
Here you go watch and listen, one of the best times of my life
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: LuckeyMA]
#22225624 - 09/12/15 03:04 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I want to do mescaline right now, daaaaaamit!!!!
OP try drawing while listening to some cool tunes! Mescaline is an artists drug!
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: hayabuser]
#22225634 - 09/12/15 03:07 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I didn't know higher video quality meant better audio as well
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: Atreyu]
#22225683 - 09/12/15 03:30 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yep I also wondered why for some time, but well... I moved on with ma life..
By far the best quality is spotify though.
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: Peyote Road]
#22225760 - 09/12/15 04:28 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Peyote Road said: oh man, i am ready to be done tripping now and this is still going insane with colors everywhere. what am i gonna do? I am not even half way done am I? oh well, i'll be ok.
I am just wondering do you guys think weed would help or not? I am already totally insane on this dose and I cant even imagine what smoking will do. Maybe I should save that for the end.
smoke the weed for the mescajuana experience. It will change your life.
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#22225894 - 09/12/15 06:36 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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this was truly a cosmic cactus hit, had to leave behind my ego at the door on this one folks
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Edited by Peyote Road (09/12/15 06:38 AM)
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: Peyote Road]
#22225926 - 09/12/15 06:55 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sounds like a good one. I've only had one cactus trip where I felt much apprehension like that.
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: Bigfeely123]
#22226078 - 09/12/15 08:10 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bigfeely123 said: "I used to be a famous shaman.... at burning man."
lol.
thats funny huh
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#22228388 - 09/12/15 06:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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i still dont fully understand how at least 3 types of mescaline cactus are legal. thats like saying cubensis mushrooms are illegal, but pan. cinctulus is just fine because its not as potent. lol i really need to try this i still havent tripped on cactus at all. sounds like op had a good time
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: XXfuzyxgamingXX]
#22230186 - 09/13/15 07:19 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'd like to try it but keep hearing a lot of batches are hit or miss... and considering how expensive cacti is compared to lsd or mushrooms I don't really want to buy cacti... Maybe some day.
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: XXfuzyxgamingXX] 1
#22230650 - 09/13/15 09:33 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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XXfuzyxgamingXX said: i still dont fully understand how at least 3 types of mescaline cactus are legal. thats like saying cubensis mushrooms are illegal, but pan. cinctulus is just fine because its not as potent. lol i really need to try this i still havent tripped on cactus at all. sounds like op had a good time
Peyote grows naturally in the continental US and thus was easily accessible in the SW when people became interested in psychedelics. There wasn't the interest, knowledge or ubiquity of trichocereus plants in the US at that time, so they managed to avoid the attention of the authorities.
Given enough time, they may crack down on all those auction sites selling cuttings of bridge, pach etc. and another loophole will be closed. Just about the time that Vice publishes an article about how awesome it is that you can buy cactus online and trip, that will be the sign that the crackdown is coming. Everything is fine until it goes mainstream.
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
#22230738 - 09/13/15 09:55 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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For some reason even today trichocereus remain obscure. Even when I tell friends about them who are all like "damn I'd give my left nut to try peyote", they just kinda gloss over and don't seem interested when you tell them about san pedro. I don't really get it, but it's probably a good thing in the long run. Plus here in California, it would be extremely difficult to eradicate them all. It would be unfair too because they are important parts of many landscapes of people who don't even have any idea what they are.
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: nicechrisman]
#22230870 - 09/13/15 10:18 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Can one go to a local nursery & buy these types of cacti instead of abroad?
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: Bigfeely123]
#22234811 - 09/13/15 10:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bigfeely123 said: Can one go to a local nursery & buy these types of cacti instead of abroad?
Yeah, just look for "san pedro" aka trichocereus pachanoi, they straight up sell them at nearly every decent nursery in the US. Some places they sell out quickly, and they can be expensive and small in places with cold climates when, especially for the weak ass predominant cultivar that you're getting.
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: P.Zappatecorum] 1
#22234825 - 09/13/15 10:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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XXfuzyxgamingXX said: i still dont fully understand how at least 3 types of mescaline cactus are legal. thats like saying cubensis mushrooms are illegal, but pan. cinctulus is just fine because its not as potent. lol i really need to try this i still havent tripped on cactus at all. sounds like op had a good time
Peyote grows naturally in the continental US and thus was easily accessible in the SW when people became interested in psychedelics. There wasn't the interest, knowledge or ubiquity of trichocereus plants in the US at that time, so they managed to avoid the attention of the authorities.
Given enough time, they may crack down on all those auction sites selling cuttings of bridge, pach etc. and another loophole will be closed. Just about the time that Vice publishes an article about how awesome it is that you can buy cactus online and trip, that will be the sign that the crackdown is coming. Everything is fine until it goes mainstream.

Call me crazy, but I think theres a ittle conspiracy to as why cactus is still legal.
I believe that the "elites" or whoever is in charge, knows that mescaline is just so "non-recreational" and "healing" that they would feel immoral to make it illegal. I believe they think along the lines of "i know were assholes and take away all your drugs...but this mescaline..this stuff right here...fucking have it. its too awesome. just take it..use it because god knows you cant abuse it.."
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#22234841 - 09/13/15 10:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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nicechrisman said: For some reason even today trichocereus remain obscure. Even when I tell friends about them who are all like "damn I'd give my left nut to try peyote", they just kinda gloss over and don't seem interested when you tell them about san pedro. I don't really get it, but it's probably a good thing in the long run. Plus here in California, it would be extremely difficult to eradicate them all. It would be unfair too because they are important parts of many landscapes of people who don't even have any idea what they are.
I don't see them cracking down on people who have old PC pedros in landscaping, but I could see them cracking down on those selling cuttings online if there was some stupid ass hipster media expose on how easy it is to buy cuttings and brew em up that went viral and there was a sudden mescaline fad. Just look what happened with all the MHRB and ACRB vendors, and you know it's only a matter of time before some states start outlawing kratom.  Quote:
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Call me crazy, but I think theres a little conspiracy to as why cactus is still legal.
I believe that the "elites" or whoever is in charge, knows that mescaline is just so "non-recreational" and "healing" that they would feel immoral to make it illegal. I believe they think along the lines of "i know were assholes and take away all your drugs...but this mescaline..this stuff right here...fucking have it. its too awesome. just take it..use it because god knows you cant abuse it.."
I think it's more the puritanical strain of Christianity that fears all native, shamanic plants as some kind of devilry/black magic that leads to the outlawing of entheogenic plants. Just more of the same old oppression of native religion.
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
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^^ so how did mescaline slide under the radar? dumb luck?
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#22234863 - 09/13/15 11:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Maybe one of the "higher ups" tried Mescaline and decided to spare it because of that.
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Aldous fuckin Huxley
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: Sagescruffy]
#22234934 - 09/13/15 11:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sagescruffy said: Maybe one of the "higher ups" tried Mescaline and decided to spare it because of that.
that's what Im saying.
I think mescaline is kind of the thing "they taunt us with. The love sleeping at night knowing "the secret" is totally legal and hardly anybody knows it. They love to think they are hiding the secret in plain sight from us. That's what they live for.
^^ that, plus them just knowing that mesc is so awesome and un-abusable that they feel the need to keep it legal, like I said in the other post.
now of course I could be totally wrong completely...its just a little theory of mine.
seriously though, I bet mescaline just flew under the radar and "they" left it alone because its not a threat.
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#22234982 - 09/13/15 11:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've never even consumed cactus, but one day. Anyway, just read the Aldous Huxley wiki and I enjoyed it. As for the OP, you got shit on homie. I still want to have a cactus experience though
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: Bill_Oreilly] 3
#22235004 - 09/13/15 11:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bill_Oreilly said: ^^ so how did mescaline slide under the radar? dumb luck?
How often do you see mescaline on the street? Mescaline cacti are slow growing and it takes a shit-ton of material to make a single dose, even with peyote, you're talking 10-30 plants that took at least 3-5 years to grow. There's no money in that.
During the 60's and 70's when there was mescaline on the street, all those fucking bastards were going out and raping the deserts, taking plants from nature and selling them or extracting them; the boomers ate up all the grandfather peyote and then when it was gone they just switched to LSD and the synthetic phenethalymines and mescaline became a whimsical memory of the glory days past for most people.
Nowadays there isn't any big operation making tons of mescaline because nobody ever grew their own when it was produced commercially. With the time, land and resources invested to make a thousand dollars worth of mescaline you could probably grow 10 thousand dollars worth of weed or make 100 thousand dollars worth of meth. It's simple economics. Mescaline is a high cost, low demand product so nobody bothers producing it on a large enough scale for the government to see it as a threat.
Sure, you can pay a pretty penny for some HCL on the darknet and NAC members and small time hobbyists are growing peyote or trichocereus for personal use, but that it such a small percentage of the drug market that it is the least of the government's concern as far as drug policy goes, some states even make that legal. I happen to live in one that has religious exemption on the books.
There's no great conspiracy as to why they don't crack down on mesc, it's because nobody is making a bunch of money off mesc. As of now it the use of it is just too rare and low profile. If it gets too popular and starts getting the wrong kind of press, you can guarantee a crackdown though. If people do start making some money off it, making huge pedro farms etc. then watch how quickly it all gets shut down.
That's in conservative states of course, I could easily see there being a wave of religious exemption laws like the medical marijuana thing for psychedelics, they're already in a gray area in Oregon, Arizona and a couple other states where you theoretically are allowed to have peyote for religious purposes. Whether or not that will stop the cops from busting down your door is entirely a different story, but it's a step in the right direction.
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: P.Zappatecorum] 1
#22235011 - 09/13/15 11:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Very solid post
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: Sagescruffy] 1
#22235452 - 09/14/15 05:51 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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^^ i agree
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
#22235470 - 09/14/15 06:03 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bill_Oreilly said: ^^ so how did mescaline slide under the radar? dumb luck?
How often do you see mescaline on the street? Mescaline cacti are slow growing and it takes a shit-ton of material to make a single dose, even with peyote, you're talking 10-30 plants that took at least 3-5 years to grow. There's no money in that.
During the 60's and 70's when there was mescaline on the street, all those fucking bastards were going out and raping the deserts, taking plants from nature and selling them or extracting them; the boomers ate up all the grandfather peyote and then when it was gone they just switched to LSD and the synthetic phenethalymines and mescaline became a whimsical memory of the glory days past for most people.
Nowadays there isn't any big operation making tons of mescaline because nobody ever grew their own when it was produced commercially. With the time, land and resources invested to make a thousand dollars worth of mescaline you could probably grow 10 thousand dollars worth of weed or make 100 thousand dollars worth of meth. It's simple economics. Mescaline is a high cost, low demand product so nobody bothers producing it on a large enough scale for the government to see it as a threat.
Sure, you can pay a pretty penny for some HCL on the darknet and NAC members and small time hobbyists are growing peyote or trichocereus for personal use, but that it such a small percentage of the drug market that it is the least of the government's concern as far as drug policy goes, some states even make that legal. I happen to live in one that has religious exemption on the books.
There's no great conspiracy as to why they don't crack down on mesc, it's because nobody is making a bunch of money off mesc. As of now it the use of it is just too rare and low profile. If it gets too popular and starts getting the wrong kind of press, you can guarantee a crackdown though. If people do start making some money off it, making huge pedro farms etc. then watch how quickly it all gets shut down.
That's in conservative states of course, I could easily see there being a wave of religious exemption laws like the medical marijuana thing for psychedelics, they're already in a gray area in Oregon, Arizona and a couple other states where you theoretically are allowed to have peyote for religious purposes. Whether or not that will stop the cops from busting down your door is entirely a different story, but it's a step in the right direction. 
So then why are drugs like dmt and 5-meo-dmt illegal? In terms of popularity and no profit those drugs are like mescaline.
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#22235509 - 09/14/15 06:40 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I guess the secret to every trip is knowing that it'll be over, and when it finally is over you'll think "why didn't I just commit to it...". Have fun with it the next time!
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
#22235520 - 09/14/15 06:48 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I always assumed most of the street mescaline available back in the day was synthesized rather than extracted from cacti.
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#22235850 - 09/14/15 10:01 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bill_Oreilly said:
So then why are drugs like dmt and 5-meo-dmt illegal? In terms of popularity and no profit those drugs are like mescaline.
Mescaline is illegal. DMT was made illegal by the same law that made mescaline illegal in 1970. Root bark became illegal recently because people were importing huge quantities of it in a fad that became widespread and made it into the public zeitgeist, just a few years back you could legally get root bark and it was no big deal. Then smoking DMT became huge, tons of online shops popped up selling bark for easy extraction and the authorities became conscious of the problem and cracked down. People may not be making much money off DMT but it's more widespread than mescaline, and there was a whole lot of root bark being sold so there was money in that. All the obscure RCs that are illegal because of the analogue act only get scrutinized when they start getting popular. Look at the n-bomes, bath salt cathinones etc. As soon as something gets to be a fad and cops start finding it alongside other drugs when they bust people, they'll start cracking down on it.
The reason why non-peyote mescaline producing cacti aren't outright banned is mainly one of enforcement, as was said earlier in the thread, San Pedro is an ubiquitous staple of southwestern landscaping, it would be nearly impossible to tear it all out and make a bunch of law-abiding people with ornamental cacti criminals just to stop a non-existent drug problem. Same reason morphine is illegal but you can go to your nursery and buy seeds and even starter plants of opium producing poppies.
The plants are left legal or in a legal grey-zone because they were widespread before the drug laws and the majority of the people that own them are not using them to manufacture large quantities of drugs, most of them are completely ignorant of the fact that the plants contain drugs at all, in fact. That a few people are making a bit of pod tea or brewing up a couple feet of pedro now and then doesn't concern the authorities.
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
#22236628 - 09/14/15 01:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think a major concern to drug prohibition is the accessibility and reward of getting high per drug. Most people that are buying drugs, want an easy route of administering and want rewarding effects over less. Hence why many ethnobotanical drugs are still legal. They require a process to prepare and often come with side effects. Root bark only became illegal, because people were buying huge quantities to make pure DMT to then sell to people who want to be able to just smoke it and not extract it. You can still buy many other plants for making ayahuasca. you can still buy cactus, Morning glory seeds, datura, bufo toads and many other ethnobotnicals. Most people who want to get high, want to do it easily. It is only the dedicated psychonaut that will spend hours brewing a cactus tea, to then force down the most vile tasting thing man has ever tasted. And do it repeatedly for desired effects. Your average high school stoner is not interested in such endeavors.If mushrooms were not as potent and required a process to ingest them they would probably still be legal as well. As well as anything extracted from its natural form will be made illegal.
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: reptilian]
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: Peyote Road]
#22239253 - 09/14/15 11:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've made that mistake not with peyote, but too often. Most of my bad trips come from either being tired or hungry. so basic
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Re: oh man I just dosed mescaline and now regret it [Re: Peyote Road]
#22239735 - 09/15/15 04:28 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have done very similar things, like dosing mescaline after partying the night before, i think i got a little sleep though.
I have dosed acid after already being awake for 24+ hours many many many times. its fun. the visuals are much better!
just know you will be very sensitive to things, dont be around assholes.
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