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Help me take control of my marijuana habit
    #22223798 - 09/11/15 07:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Hey Ya'll - I'm reaching out cause I'm really having a problem and it's inhibiting any further growth in my life spiritually or physically.  I'm a long time smoker ~12 years and I'm 30 now, been an everyday smoker for years, at a point I was up to an ounce a week for a while.  I got control of it last year and didn't smoke for like 8 months, but I just moved for a new job to a new state and I've started up again hard.  Worse yet, I now live in CO and have access to all the hash I can smoke. 

I have a long list of things I want to accomplish, but it all is words at this point, because my actions currently are to keep buying green.  I know I am using it to block out something, but don't really know what the underlying issue is and part of me is afraid to find out.  I do sincerly want to get control of this, I don't think marijuana will ever be out of my life.  I just wish I could just smoke a bowl, set it down and walk away.  The thing I say about how I smoke, is that I smoke until I wake up the next morning.  Any advice would be appreciated!!


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Re: Help me take control of my marijuana habit [Re: TENGOp]
    #22223935 - 09/11/15 07:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Only buy one session at a time. I know it's inconvenient but that's the point.

Next time you walk in to the store only buy like three grams. Smoke it that night. Slowly work down to like one gram sessions. It takes some self control but if you don't have access to ounces at a time, you probably will smoke less. It's worth a shot.


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Re: Help me take control of my marijuana habit [Re: goldcaphunter]
    #22233618 - 09/13/15 07:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

get rid of all weed in house. have a reputable vendor sell you safe kratom online. I recommend red vein thai or red vein bali. Dose as needed whenever you have urge to smoke. Do this for 1-2 weeks and you should feel a lot better without weed. Went through the same exact experience bro


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Re: Help me take control of my marijuana habit [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22234709 - 09/13/15 10:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So your solution is to replace a drug with a drug?  :facepalm:

You have to quit 100% and cold turkey man or else you'll just have a new drug habit stealing your time and money.

You're clearly able to be honest with yourself and that plays a big part.  You just have to be willing to stop.  You have to be stronger than the voice in your head that tries to convince you it's okay to smoke just a little bit. 

I get the same way bro, I would smoke an 1/8-1/4 a day easily.  Shit stole so much time and money from me, definitely not worth it.  Don't get me wrong, I miss the high and love almost everything about it, but I can't use it responsibly so I don't use it at all.


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Re: Help me take control of my marijuana habit [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22235477 - 09/14/15 06:09 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I am not saying to replace weed with kratom permanently. For example, those who quit nicotine may have edgy withdrawal symptoms and both physical and psychological issues. Using kratom those first few roughest days will make the withdrawals seem a lot easier. For weed, its mostly to ease the psychological withdrawal since it still gives you a form of dopamine release, anti-anxiety and antidepressant effects. But you are right, the point is to only use it that very first week or 2 when the cannabis psychological withdrawals are the worse. You wont get hooked on kratom that easily. And as long as you have the mindset to only use it temporarily, you will have no issues. MAde quitting weed a breeze for me and I smoked at least 2-3 times a day for 6 years. Then when I was more emotionally stable after quitting cold turkey, I jumped off the kratom with no issues whatsoever. Just a suggestion man and that is exactly what helped me out. Cheers


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Re: Help me take control of my marijuana habit [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22235512 - 09/14/15 06:42 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Unless you sell and it's just part of the job, why the fuck are you smoking so much? If you live in CO, Why are you buying weed at all?


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Re: Help me take control of my marijuana habit [Re: Matt87]
    #22237952 - 09/14/15 06:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Thank you all for your replies, very helpful.  I've tried quitting before and used cigarettes for the oral fixation, and I just ended up smoking for a few months.  So I totally understand the drug for a drug issue when not going cold turkey.  I've never tried Kratom, so I'm not sure how I would respond to it but I'm open to trying.

I was also thinking about micro-dosing shrooms as well?  I have a bunch capsuled up at ~.35 mg already and have experiene at this dosage - I usually have a more up-beat disposition on the days i dose.  I saw that studies are using psilocybin for smoking cessation, so maybe?  I know they also provide therapy sessions, so it's not the same. 
   
to Matt87- I don't know why I smoke this much, I would like to know.  I think it stems mostly from a general unease with just being here, like on earth.  I have social anxieties and such.  It's also not a burden on me financially, but I know i could have bought a nice car with the money i smoked up.  And I don't grow because I don't have the space or permission in my apartment right now. 

Either way, this is Day 1 - I'm thinking I might keep this thread updated on the progress if there is interest.


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Re: Help me take control of my marijuana habit [Re: TENGOp]
    #22238394 - 09/14/15 08:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I hope quitting helps you in some big way like you think it might.


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Re: Help me take control of my marijuana habit [Re: Matt87]
    #22238627 - 09/14/15 08:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The main things quitting helped for me is more money in my pocket, I can breathe better, I don't get anxious waiting for the next time I can chief, I don't get irritated if I run out, I don't end up getting introspective in social situations like sometimes happens when getting high.

But I definitely miss the feeling in my face, the increase in sense perception, laughing at nothing, and the taste/smell of good ganja.


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Re: Help me take control of my marijuana habit [Re: TENGOp]
    #22239051 - 09/14/15 10:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I don't agree with quiting cold turkey. I was up to about half a gram of BHO a day on some days, or an eighth of flower a day and it was when I couldn't keep up with my intake (work would interfere) that I'd start losing sleep, missing meals, and just being straight manic. I don't know if it was masking these issues and that is why I picked weed up, or if the issues manifested because of my addictive personality and abuse of this drug.

It doesn't matter, because when I made the conscious choice to reduce, I was able to do so. I started by focusing on my goals (I'm thinking I might go to culinary school) and trying to find non-drug related ways to cope with my stress, hunger, and insomnia. Sometimes it would get so bad, I had to smoke, but it's OK, because I still reduced my intake considerably one day after the other. That's all that mattered. I now smoke maybe a bowl a week and my appetite issues are gone completely. My stress can get out of control, but I don't need to smoke to bring it down. I use mindfulness (therapeutic, not religious) more than anything, but you'll find what works for you. My insomnia still sucks, but I'm not really working too hard on that (big dummy).

If you want to talk about some of the daily struggles, or if you DO in fact think there's something underlying that may surface from quitting (not usually the case), feel free to post more, or PM me. Surround yourself with people who support your decisions and aren't influencing you in the wrong direction. Good luck, brother!


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Re: Help me take control of my marijuana habit [Re: Giftofdeprivation]
    #22239734 - 09/15/15 04:27 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Find something to replace. A hobby, activity, exercise, healthy diets and herbs. I got really into reishi tea, exercise and kratom helped majorly the first few days with mood, appetite, sleep, and motovstion


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Re: Help me take control of my marijuana habit [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22239995 - 09/15/15 07:39 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Man I hope you crush it, any addiction can seem like an Everest to get over I suppose if its the only kind you know.

I have been smoking for the last 8 years now & I get the same feeling you get, dont know why you cant put it down is it maybe something deeper who knows? The only times I have ever had breaks were a few days of it being dry & hard to find or when one time I stopped for maybe just under 2 months for a well needed break.
So I know it can fucking suck hard.

Right now I am trying to curb Mary back again, I want to be able to go a few days without smoking weed but its fucking hard.
I know I cave in easy but its all apart of the road to cutting down I suppose like Giftofdeprivation mentioned when he would slip & smoke some but its okay because your general intake it severely cut back, baby steps like with anything man!
I've gotten down to 2-3 bongs a day now & I am really proud of that soon I hope to work in a day breaker, don't beat yourself up we have the power!
Good-luck man! Look forward to reading on your progress, I'll update on how I am going tapering my weed down as-well so we're not alone!
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Re: Help me take control of my marijuana habit [Re: SludgeCity]
    #22240409 - 09/15/15 09:27 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I've noticed the big issue with quitting cannabis is that I needed a reason to quit. I had to be ready. If it was just for a job drug test or I went on vacation etc, I did horribly. Just can't stop thinking about getting back into it. Once I had a big change in my life that put things in different perspectives, quitting weed was a joke and I never had any cravings. My reason was that I got an OVI for being high and still in the middle of court sessions to see what the final say will be. But i pissed clean for my lawyer and haven't looked back. I'll smoke one or twice on the weekends, but the daily toking was negatively effecting my life in quite a few ways so I'm somewhat grateful I got in trouble but not too much trouble. Again, kratom was a godsend considering the weed cravings. You'll get there bro


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Re: Help me take control of my marijuana habit [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22243154 - 09/15/15 08:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

For sure a reason to quit is all you really need if you want to beat it for good, but a part of me doesn't want to stop & I know it so I am just tapering it down hard & see where I stand from then.

Since the start of the week I have been only having 1-3 bongs a day, yesterday I only had 1 before dinner & I was worried about going to bed that night & not sleeping but it was a breeze
But I know I can cope with 1 bong a day, its introducing the day breaker in I know will be a struggle for me.


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Re: Help me take control of my marijuana habit [Re: SludgeCity]
    #22243297 - 09/15/15 08:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I really appreciate everyone's insights into this process - it's always good to know I'm not alone.  I was thinking about buying today but then thought about having to tell everyone here that I failed on day 2 would feel.  So I didn't

Day 1 wasn't great, it definitely is a must to have ALL the weed out of the house first.  I was scrounging and found some shake left in my weed box and even scraped out a grinder.  It was enough for a bowl and only got me a little buzzed, and it tasted bad and old.  A set-back, but there are bumps in the road I'm on. 

Other than that.. I've had a slight tension headache all day, i can tell my appetite is going away, i was getting aggressive on the commute home, last night had slight night sweats but I'm sure tonight and tomorrow will be worse.  It goes away after a few days of not smoking. 

The biggest thing is wtf do I do with my time now?? When I was at work today, I thought about going home and it gave me a slight panic attack.  But tonight I just kept my nose in a book and it seemed to help.  I'm also mentally beating myself up too now, thinking about all the productive stuff I could/shoulda been doing the last couple months.  I have to work on that. 

I looked into Kratom, I'm not sure it's for me - esp cause you can't smoke it (or you need to smoke ALOT of it).  But there is a shop called Rocky Mountain Kratom nearby so I might go there and check it out. 

Lastly,  again - thank you everyone for posting.  It really means alot to me that you're all very supportive.


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Re: Help me take control of my marijuana habit [Re: TENGOp]
    #22243349 - 09/15/15 08:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

No one but yourself can help you take control of your habits. I was in a similar situation a few years ago, going through an ounce a week, wasting all my money, and killing my tolerence. You have already made the realization you need to stop, or at least slow down. But it is your foot on the gas.

My advice would be to limit yourself on how much you smoke, that's how I did it. I only smoke a couple grams a week now, maybe an eighth depending on the weekend. Stay off the hash and just smoke the flowers, 2 or 3 bowls a day.

Keep on track man, its not too hard. Just stay focused and motivated to do the other things you want to do with your life.


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Re: Help me take control of my marijuana habit [Re: maddad]
    #22250299 - 09/17/15 09:59 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Do the kratom man. Kwikkratom.Com.  try red vein thai 2-3 doses a day for the first week off weed. It will keep your dopamine levels up. Also if you don't like cold turkey smoking, perhaps switch to once or twice a week smoking. Only at night like a Friday night after work. Make a huge ritual about it, order a bunch of food and just splurge. But then take your kratom next morning to keep urges to fall back into daily use at bay. Trust me. I've tried to quit a bunch. This works the best way, but do not switch to krstom everyday completely. Worse addiction. But it's good for a week or two for your anxiety and depression and energy, appetite and sleep.

After I quit smoking, I now use kratom socially instead of alcohol mainly maybe once of twice a week. I trip on shrooms, sometimes acid, high dose once or twice a month and you bet your ass I have weed for those nights lol. Also some kratom and valium for tripping but low dose to keep my trips positive


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Re: Help me take control of my marijuana habit [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22254411 - 09/18/15 03:11 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Just thought I would post in on how I am doing.
Starting from the start of the week I was...
Monday-3bongs
Tuesday-1bong
Wednesday-2bongs
Thursday-1bong
& today being Friday I haven't had any yet & its 6:30PM. Hoping to go the whole day without any, don't know how I will go when I try to sleep tonight.
Worst shit so far is having a dead-ass appetite & a feeling of general "un-easyness".
Staying strong though.


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Re: Help me take control of my marijuana habit [Re: SludgeCity]
    #22264962 - 09/20/15 01:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Send it over here... I'll help take care of it for ya :jah:


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Re: Help me take control of my marijuana habit [Re: TENGOp] * 1
    #22274824 - 09/22/15 04:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

well I started smoking cigs when I was 10, and then was turned onto cannabis when I was 15. Know who by? Ever see the old 60s english series The Avengers? Well the stunt man for 'Steed' is the guy that turned me onto hashish lol. It became my RELIGION. I toked for decades. the habit combined with sex addiction and was really not good, so about 6 years back I just quit all smoking. But by that time I had already quit cigs, but still had used tobacco to build joints

Now I feel VERY glad I did. Not only do I feel so much healthier, body and mind, the money I have saved!!
When I quit I started getting a little tickly cough. I googled it and found to my delight that, when you smoke you destroy the little fine hairs on your vocal pipes, but the body, being the amazing organism it is soon recuperates and they grow back, and your pipes become pink again, and this image really also encouraged me. I love that sense of healthy rejuvenation

I have my ideas about why people get lost in habits. Remember Alan Watts? He was a major influence on my life. When I had early psychedelic experience (LSD) when 15, which went onto 16 + I then went through these years searching to find some integration, and the only author that spoke to me was he. But later I was shocked to find out he destroyed himself through a serious alcohol habit!! And I ofen explore possible reasons he did that, because he would write and talk about accepting the mysterious 'what is'

I think that even he was fearful of his 'ordinary' self. He is quoted as saying 'I don't like myself sober'. So ask yourself what is it about yourself you find uncomfortable when your not stoned?



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Re: Help me take control of my marijuana habit [Re: zzripz]
    #22280511 - 09/23/15 08:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I haven't updated in a while, but sad to report that I fell back into some daily smoking after a short, 3 day respite - but more enlightened to my situation, I think.

For me, the first day is the hardest - but it's totally mental... and the more I focus on my 'potential' withdraw symptoms, the worse it's going to be.  But I also learned (and conveniently, always forget) how good I am at rationalizing things to myself.  It's really about occupying the time i think.

And tell me if i'm wrong on this, or I'm just placating myself to smoke more.  So I looked at stopping smoking like a black and white thing.  That I have to stop and can't touch it again.  And I don't think I can work like that, it's too binary for my life.  Like when I think of alcoholics - I think 12 step, while it has helped a ton of people, is not for everyone.  I want to learn to be responsible in the world I live in, and I think that includes knowing when and how much marijuana is appropriate to smoke.  That's not to stay that I shouldn't clean out for a week or 2 before reintroducing any smoking again - when quitting. 

Other than that, I think establishing a mediation practice again will help.  Commute stress and work stress is killer when trying to quit.  But that's kind of where I'd at.  A bit stuck.  But sorta randomly, I just signed up for personal training at the gym I go to.  I start that next week, hopefully that really helps too.


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Re: Help me take control of my marijuana habit [Re: TENGOp]
    #22282510 - 09/24/15 08:10 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

we are all unique. And we all decide when we decide. When I toked it was, like I say religious. IE I could not envisage ever EVER giving it up. it was unthinkable.
Even when I was to get back together with an old friend who I found out had been near death, because of some disease, so had given up tokin (but she did weird shit like this. When we chilled out she would roll ordinary baccy like you do spliff!)I would try to get her toking again, and was pissed off when she refused.
What got me to really stop was worry about my health. I was never a really heavy toker, although i had  to have a toke everyday, but unlike others who put LOADS of draw/ganja/blow/weed in their spliffs I was known as being errm tight lol. This was because I was always paranoid running out of it.
But I combined toking with a sexual obsession, and it was possessing me and causing me psychosomatic problems so one day I just knew I HAD to quit and never looked back. I know you may find this weird, but we are talking years ago, and the shlf I kept my stash in a bag that I myself had painted the fabric and my mate made it--is STILL there. For some reason I wont touch it. The weed is still in there!!! it is not there as a kind oc ' maybe I will return to toking'--I cannot explain it. it is weird

IF you do not want to wholly quit, then yeah, reduce it if it is/if you are aware ift is not doing you good. toward the end I had reduced toking to ONE day. I always remember bragging about this in this volunteer job i was doing at a needle exchange, to a Jamaican woman. And she pulled a face and said 'why do it even ONE day', and I was real angry at that response lol. But now I can kinda understand it, from a non-smoker's perspective. But yet, do it your way. But know that if and when you ever choose to give it up entirely it is not the end of the world as you may imagine it


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Re: Help me take control of my marijuana habit [Re: zzripz]
    #22405728 - 10/19/15 09:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

zzripz, I really appreciate those words and your story - I like the 'we decide, when we decide'.  I wanted to 'bump' this thread and update my progress.

After my initial posting, I fell back into a heavy routine again.  Last Monday, seemed to be the time i 'decided'.  I was working out after work and I had been smoking all day and started a first rep of this heavy lift and instantly I got this sharp painful headache that started from the back of my neck to my eyes.  I had to stop and leave the gym because of this.  I think what happened is that, I already have high blood pressure, and smoking all day make it even higher, and some blood vessel or muscle just said 'no more'.  The headache lasted the next 3 days. 

And that seemed to be the trigger for me.  I just can't keep doing this - I'm hurting myself.  My last smoke was Wednesday and have been clean now for 5 days now, the longest streak in a while now and I'm not looking back.

I've had night sweats every night, painful stomach issues, insomnia, headaches, lethargy, and sometimes a ragey attitude - but I don't care.  I want out. 

I can feel myself coming back again, I'm reading now, I'm starting to think clearly again - and not feeling like my head is full of cotton anymore.  I've come to the realization that i've plateaued in any further material or spiritual growth if I continue to smoke.  If I can do this, everyone can.  I'm a very strong headed person and it's time I got strong headed about quitting! :sun:


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Re: Help me take control of my marijuana habit [Re: TENGOp] * 1
    #22406851 - 10/20/15 12:22 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I smoked for 30 years and don't anymore. I can totally relate to what you are saying and dealing with. I think the most important thing to try to keep in mind is the motivation to smoke.

Why do people smoke weed and drink and get loaded in dozens of other ways? It's because we have a hard time being with ourselves and our feelings. We are terrified of ourselves and struggle to just sit in a room alone in silence. 

Although it sucks to quit, after 10 days sobrer, I felt so much better. Weed caused me a huge amount of depression and anxiety over three decades for me. I still want to smoke, especially when I have emotions that I want to numb. My mind offers up a continual list of excuses for smoking. It helps to give the voice in your head that encouages you to get high a name, like "Toker" or "Smokey" so when he pops in to your mind, you realize it's him and not you.

I wish you peace and ease during this difficult time and important transistion.


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Re: Help me take control of my marijuana habit [Re: TENGOp]
    #22415375 - 10/21/15 07:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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TENGOp said:
Hey Ya'll - I'm reaching out cause I'm really having a problem and it's inhibiting any further growth in my life spiritually or physically.  I'm a long time smoker ~12 years and I'm 30 now, been an everyday smoker for years, at a point I was up to an ounce a week for a while.  I got control of it last year and didn't smoke for like 8 months, but I just moved for a new job to a new state and I've started up again hard.  Worse yet, I now live in CO and have access to all the hash I can smoke. 

I have a long list of things I want to accomplish, but it all is words at this point, because my actions currently are to keep buying green.  I know I am using it to block out something, but don't really know what the underlying issue is and part of me is afraid to find out.  I do sincerly want to get control of this, I don't think marijuana will ever be out of my life.  I just wish I could just smoke a bowl, set it down and walk away.  The thing I say about how I smoke, is that I smoke until I wake up the next morning.  Any advice would be appreciated!!



Stop being a pussy and quit smoking. It really isn't that hard.


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Re: Help me take control of my marijuana habit [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #22415711 - 10/21/15 09:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks RJ! I really like the idea of naming the voice :cool:


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Re: Help me take control of my marijuana habit [Re: TENGOp]
    #22430934 - 10/25/15 08:43 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I have smoked daily for a decade. It left me depressed, socially retarted with anxiety issues, been even hopsitalized in a mental institution after the so many failed suicide attempt.
After quitting (it was hard at first) I became a completely different person. Almost happy in life. Now almost a decade later I'm still picking up the pieces, but I'm no longer the crazy paranoid drug addict I once was. I still live in a crappy house but things are still changing for the better. I almost have zero social anxiety and have a job wich pays above the avarage in my country (I'm actually a very intelligent person).

My advice is to just take the plunge and quit. The trick for me was the realisation that all my problems were caused by my drug abuse and bad parents. Aftet that I didn't even liked it when I was high/stoned, It made me feel crazy. Not to smoke made me feel normal. And not the other way around.

Ask yourself the following questions:
Do you still like it how you feel when you have smoked?
Do you have decent job/education and housing conditions?
Can you manage all the things in life?
Are you afraid of going into a store or talking to strangers?
How's you relation with family, friends and neighbours?


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Re: Help me take control of my marijuana habit [Re: cvh] * 1
    #22431000 - 10/25/15 09:03 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

cvh said:
I have smoked daily for a decade. It left me depressed, socially retarted with anxiety issues, been even hopsitalized in a mental institution after the so many failed suicide attempt.
After quitting (it was hard at first) I became a completely different person. Almost happy in life. Now almost a decade later I'm still picking up the pieces, but I'm no longer the crazy paranoid drug addict I once was. I still live in a crappy house but things are still changing for the better. I almost have zero social anxiety and have a job wich pays above the avarage in my country (I'm actually a very intelligent person).

My advice is to just take the plunge and quit. The trick for me was the realisation that all my problems were caused by my drug abuse and bad parents. Aftet that I didn't even liked it when I was high/stoned, It made me feel crazy. Not to smoke made me feel normal. And not the other way around.

Ask yourself the following questions:
Do you still like it how you feel when you have smoked?
Do you have decent job/education and housing conditions?
Can you manage all the things in life?
Are you afraid of going into a store or talking to strangers?
How's you relation with family, friends and neighbours?



Sounds like you could just be a loser. You were depressed, anxious, and hospitalized from weed? I don't think so man.


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Re: Help me take control of my marijuana habit [Re: Matt87]
    #22435092 - 10/26/15 08:53 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Depressed, anxious, and hospitalized from weed is all completely reasonable.


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Re: Help me take control of my marijuana habit [Re: Matt87]
    #22450417 - 10/29/15 06:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Matt87 said:
Sounds like you could just be a loser. You were depressed, anxious, and hospitalized from weed? I don't think so man.




I can totally relate to cvh.    Yeah, that trivial thing we call "weed" AKA "compassionate medicine" can have significant negative consequences.

I smoked for over 30 years and had no idea weed greatly contributed to my anxiety and depression. My brain had various ways to convince me to ignore that fact . . .


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Re: Help me take control of my marijuana habit [Re: Matt87]
    #22450448 - 10/29/15 06:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Matt87 said:
Quote:

cvh said:
I have smoked daily for a decade. It left me depressed, socially retarted with anxiety issues, been even hopsitalized in a mental institution after the so many failed suicide attempt.
After quitting (it was hard at first) I became a completely different person. Almost happy in life. Now almost a decade later I'm still picking up the pieces, but I'm no longer the crazy paranoid drug addict I once was. I still live in a crappy house but things are still changing for the better. I almost have zero social anxiety and have a job wich pays above the avarage in my country (I'm actually a very intelligent person).

My advice is to just take the plunge and quit. The trick for me was the realisation that all my problems were caused by my drug abuse and bad parents. Aftet that I didn't even liked it when I was high/stoned, It made me feel crazy. Not to smoke made me feel normal. And not the other way around.

Ask yourself the following questions:
Do you still like it how you feel when you have smoked?
Do you have decent job/education and housing conditions?
Can you manage all the things in life?
Are you afraid of going into a store or talking to strangers?
How's you relation with family, friends and neighbours?



Sounds like you could just be a loser. You were depressed, anxious, and hospitalized from weed? I don't think so man.



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Seriously.


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Re: Help me take control of my marijuana habit [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy] * 1
    #22463980 - 11/01/15 07:43 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Malcolm_Xtasy said:

Seriously.






Psychoactive drugs change brain chemistry. When someone reacts negatively to a psychoactive drug, that doesn't make them a loser. A loser is someone who mocks people for their decisions, for example, to improve their life. Many people have told me they stopped smoking weed because it made them so depressed and anxious.

But it's sacrilegious to acknowledge any negative effects of pot because cannabis is now viewed as a type of holy medicine and a gift from God. I wish I had known about the negative impacts of pot on mental health 25 years ago. Pot has a huge effect on how my mind functions.


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Re: Help me take control of my marijuana habit [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #22463988 - 11/01/15 07:45 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I cut down on my weed usage for those exact reasons. But cmon.. suicide attempts and mental hospitals all over quitting bud? Gimme a fuckin breaak :lol:


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Re: Help me take control of my marijuana habit [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #22468889 - 11/02/15 10:29 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

clearly he's got some other problems, but I think the point is the weed wasn't helping, which I could totally see.


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