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Kratom on Dr. Phil
    #22222622 - 09/11/15 03:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Just saw the beginning of a Dr. Phil show and this lady does kava and kratom.  Then there's a news clip that says "it produces a high like cocaine and is addictive just like heroin"

Wonderful :rolleyes:  this is all kratom needs.  A bunch of lies about the drug and a crazy women that uses it that makes it look worse then it is.

After watching more they are really slamming it.  And so far the lady doesn't seem that bad.

Now they just said she uses adderall like oh that's fine, but the kratom will FUCKING KILL YOU!

I don't really want to watch dr. Phil but I might have to finish the episode.


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: DTCharlieB]
    #22222630 - 09/11/15 03:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:wtfsonic:


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: DTCharlieB]
    #22222636 - 09/11/15 03:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:canthelpbutlaugh:

It was only a matter of time. I read an article about etizolam the other day calling it the new "date rape drug"


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #22222654 - 09/11/15 03:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I'd say krat is more like coffee mixed with a light dose of hydrocodone or morphine. I'd wager more people are hooked on coffee than krat and have a worse time dropping the habit. One time a younger guy handed me a coffee at Tim's and I said "Thanks for the drugs man!" Then he was like, "No problem!"


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: DTCharlieB]
    #22222662 - 09/11/15 03:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Someone just posted this in chat

They are corporate shills, influenced by the pharmaceutical company's

Fuckers


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #22222663 - 09/11/15 03:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I hate how they just make up shit and demonize a drug to sell what there putting out there.  I mean benadryl could be a date rape drug.  All pharmaceuticals are ok though.  If you got money you can control anything, media, government, whatever.


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #22222670 - 09/11/15 03:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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DTCharlieB said:
Just saw the beginning of a Dr. Phil show and this lady does kava and kratom.  Then there's a news clip that says "it produces a high like cocaine and is addictive just like heroin"

Wonderful :rolleyes:  this is all kratom needs.  A bunch of lies about the drug and a crazy women that uses it that makes it look worse then it is.

After watching more they are really slamming it.  And so far the lady doesn't seem that bad.

Now they just said she uses adderall like oh that's fine, but the kratom will FUCKING KILL YOU!

I don't really want to watch dr. Phil but I might have to finish the episode.



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:canthelpbutlaugh:

It was only a matter of time. I read an article about etizolam the other day calling it the new "date rape drug"



Why are people so stupid? Its scary


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: topdog82]
    #22222673 - 09/11/15 03:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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DTCharlieB said:
Just saw the beginning of a Dr. Phil show and this lady does kava and kratom.  Then there's a news clip that says "it produces a high like cocaine and is addictive just like heroin"

Wonderful :rolleyes:  this is all kratom needs.  A bunch of lies about the drug and a crazy women that uses it that makes it look worse then it is.

After watching more they are really slamming it.  And so far the lady doesn't seem that bad.

Now they just said she uses adderall like oh that's fine, but the kratom will FUCKING KILL YOU!

I don't really want to watch dr. Phil but I might have to finish the episode.



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:canthelpbutlaugh:

It was only a matter of time. I read an article about etizolam the other day calling it the new "date rape drug"



Why are people so stupid? Its scary




Cuzz people r st00pid


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: SunnyD]
    #22222690 - 09/11/15 03:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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topdog82 said:
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DTCharlieB said:
Just saw the beginning of a Dr. Phil show and this lady does kava and kratom.  Then there's a news clip that says "it produces a high like cocaine and is addictive just like heroin"

Wonderful :rolleyes:  this is all kratom needs.  A bunch of lies about the drug and a crazy women that uses it that makes it look worse then it is.

After watching more they are really slamming it.  And so far the lady doesn't seem that bad.

Now they just said she uses adderall like oh that's fine, but the kratom will FUCKING KILL YOU!

I don't really want to watch dr. Phil but I might have to finish the episode.



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Malcolm_Xtasy said:
:canthelpbutlaugh:

It was only a matter of time. I read an article about etizolam the other day calling it the new "date rape drug"



Why are people so stupid? Its scary




Cuzz people r st00pid



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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: topdog82]
    #22222726 - 09/11/15 03:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Well I'm about half way through the show and the lady who does the kratom and alcohol looks and sounds alot better then her husband who looks like a complete jackass.

Maybe spoke too late there's another person trashing her about being a bum.  But she has held her own.

Goooooooo Krat heads!


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Salomon]
    #22222729 - 09/11/15 03:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Hyperbole and hysteria---both have been cornerstone of drug policy and public discussion of such since day one. "Let's impart enough fear in people that only the truly stupid will dare to use drugs".

Clearly this logic is flawed due to the flagrant misinformation that has been fed to the public. These campaigns, based on fear, seem to be loosing significant credibility as the public takes the time to educate themselves. That said--there will always be people that believe what they are spoon fed. Shame on Dr Phil for contributing further to these practices.


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: pslyke]
    #22222814 - 09/11/15 04:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I wonder if the "dr" in his title comes from a doctorate in swaying public opinion AKA a bullshitter degree :mad2:

I hope people don't take this crap seriously but I am sure many do :lol: pretty sure my ex watched DR phil, I wonder if shes glad I never got her to try krat now :tongue2: Its really ironic becouse she had anxiety problems and other things kratom definitely could have helped with. Meanwhile she is smoking cigarettes daily and down to drink alcohol or do coke :rolleyes:

Some peoples logic is mind blowing to me :rofl2:


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: musiclover420]
    #22222837 - 09/11/15 04:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Even tho I'm not a avid user of kratom I'm going to stock up so if its ever made illegal.


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: musiclover420]
    #22222870 - 09/11/15 04:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Dr phil is a sellout


Anyone with a rational brain would not let shit like this on there show


Hes a corporate shrew


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Dr.Wongburger] * 1
    #22222881 - 09/11/15 04:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Get a cutting or three as well mayhaps, they can be pretty pricey though on many sites :shrug:

I definitely want to get some kilo's buried for when they finally try to drop the ban hammer.

Thankfully with the info available on the internet it may never happen though (fingers crossed) its harder for them to misinform people than with say the cannabis prohibition.

If everyone had been able to go online and read all the facts back when they were pushing scare tactics down everyone's throats it would have not gone down the same.

At least I hope not.


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: musiclover420]
    #22222926 - 09/11/15 04:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I don't do much kratom these days but I was thinking about making a decent sized purchase. My only concern would be keeping it fresh.  Does anyone know the best way to store krat?  I got some in a Tupper wear container in my freezer now and it's like a frozen block.  I don't know if it will be any good when it thaws.


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: DTCharlieB]
    #22222953 - 09/11/15 04:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I just leave mine in the bag and usually leave it out or in a cupboard somewhere :shrug:

I imagine vacuum sealing it somewhere dark and cool would be plenty safe it not overkill potentially.

I don't really know though, I have never noticed much of a potency loss in the stuff I have after weeks to months of sitting around.


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: musiclover420]
    #22223159 - 09/11/15 05:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Dr. Phil's show is just for entertainment and ratings he gives zero fucks about the people on the show. It's television for pete sakes he will do whatever gets him money and viewers.


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: DTCharlieB]
    #22223186 - 09/11/15 05:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:shrug:
I don't think many people watch Dr. Phil anymore.
His ship sailed.

Also Kratom is decent, but to me addiction is addiction. When I do Kratom I have a strong urge to do it every day, like oxy but cheaper and a shittier high. So I personally don't care for it anymore.

That said it definitely needs to stay legal. They should be using it for WD's instead of subs.


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: DTCharlieB]
    #22223196 - 09/11/15 05:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Dr. Phil show




Dr Phil still has a show?




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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22223209 - 09/11/15 05:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Kratom is addictive the reason I stopped using it is cause I get addicted each time I order it.


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22223345 - 09/11/15 06:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Ya kratom should most definitely be used to ween off opiates instead of subs. Subs are bad new and they just create another bad addiction with possibly worse withdrawals.  And they hand those things out like candy.  People are prescribed 3 8 mg pills a day. That's a crazy amount and even the even the biggest habits don't need 24 mg of sub a day to feel good.


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: ModestMouse]
    #22223428 - 09/11/15 06:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I don't think many people watch Dr. Phil anymore.
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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Salomon]
    #22223707 - 09/11/15 07:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I'm watching the episode. Dr. Phil is making this chick look dumb as hell.

She is the dumbest kratom user ever. :lol:


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22224083 - 09/11/15 08:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Even tho I'm not a avid user of kratom I'm going to stock up so if its ever made illegal.





You should be fine for at least a while longer, these things usually don't happen overnight...do they?


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Lucis]
    #22224104 - 09/11/15 08:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Kratom will be illegal eventually.

Guaranteed there are too many retards to handle most drugs.


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22224131 - 09/11/15 08:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

people will forget about that Dr. Phil episode in no time  :puddingpop:


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: lillFish]
    #22224153 - 09/11/15 08:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

They had the FDA dude on the episode who certainly was pissed off about the kratom situation.

The government is not gonna let this shit slide lol


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: lillFish]
    #22224200 - 09/11/15 08:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Watch them make it illegal and then all of a sudden kratom becomes a black market "drug" and the price skyrockets...


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22224205 - 09/11/15 08:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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The government is not gonna let this shit slide lol





hmmm, I remember hearing that back in 2007, still nothing has changed.


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: musiclover420]
    #22224223 - 09/11/15 08:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Watch them make it illegal and then all of a sudden kratom becomes a black market "drug" and the price skyrockets...





Awww fawk tht!!

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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Lucis]
    #22224227 - 09/11/15 08:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Fennario said:
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The government is not gonna let this shit slide lol





hmmm, I remember hearing that back in 2007, still nothing has changed.




several states made it illegal bra.


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22224237 - 09/11/15 08:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

oh yeah, like 3 of them, glad i  got a kratom tree


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22224286 - 09/11/15 09:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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The government is not gonna let this shit slide lol




The government genuinely does not have concerns over kratom. The pharmaceutical industries that lobby the government, however, is a different story.


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Detached]
    #22224328 - 09/11/15 09:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Kratom is not competing with legit opiates that is propoganda.

The kratom user demographic is a very small niche and the pharm compagnies could give two fucks about it.


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22224342 - 09/11/15 09:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So what interests do you believe the government has in making kratom illegal? For the moral superiority of it's population?

No... it has nothing to do with that and everything else to do with the almighty dollar.


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Detached]
    #22224359 - 09/11/15 09:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I think the government sees it in the same light as bath salts and I don't blame them. I think most of the RC's are dangerous and probably are best to not be accessible to any 16 year old with a credit card on the internet.

Same goes for kratom I don't think anyone with a prepaid credit card of any age should be able to order large amounts from the net. They could make regulations around it like alcohol but overall it is just another unknown like bath salts were and it is easier to make it illegal.


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Detached]
    #22224362 - 09/11/15 09:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Kratom is pretty benign. Everytime I've done it it has felt like a strong shot of caffeine but without the jitters. I did enjoy its ability to enhance mood though. In my opinion anyone who gets addicted to Kratom would have most likely gotten addicted to something worse had Kratom not existed.


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Magicman69]
    #22224375 - 09/11/15 09:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Kratom is pretty benign. Everytime I've done it it has felt like a strong shot of caffeine but without the jitters. I did enjoy its ability to enhance mood though. In my opinion anyone who gets addicted to Kratom would have most likely gotten addicted to something worse had Kratom not existed.




When I order a bulk amount of kratom off the net I always end up with a physical addiction and a habit and have to go through withdrawals at the end of the three month period or so.

I do think there are some concerns with it. I don't want it to be illegal but if someone informed like me has problems not doing it every day when I have it I can't imagine what your average retard does when they use it.


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22224390 - 09/11/15 09:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I am pretty certain there is quite a bit of scientific data that does not correlate kratom with destructive and dangerous behavior like bath salts do. I have certainly never seen the headline that a dose of kratom made someone try to fuck a tree or kill & eat their partner.

Hell, these same kids can go and buy spore syringes with their prepaid CC's... maybe we should make spore syringes illegal... like 3 other shitty states did YEARS ago with no effect.

Maybe the real solution to this "epidemic" is to not allow minors to purchase prepaid credit cards or hold the parents responsible to their child's actions.


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Detached]
    #22224411 - 09/11/15 09:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The gov doesn't see it that way. They lump kratom together with designer drugs and I don't blame them think of how many RC's they have had to ban. Kratom is just another one to them and I don't blame them for seeing it that way even though that line of thinking is incorrect.

I do have an issue with your average 16 year old being able to go on their laptops and order any designer drug they want to their home unregulated. Most of those RC's are shit and dangerous anyways. I mean one of our members lost their toes from RC's.

The gov is just trying to protect their people man they don't want any kid to be able to buy these mimic drugs within seconds. Most parents would agree with this notion as well.


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Bitter Cactus] * 1
    #22224481 - 09/11/15 09:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: DTCharlieB]
    #22224555 - 09/11/15 10:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I liked how one of the negative side effects listed for kratom is "insomnia". My room mate can attest thats not true, try to get me through two netflix episodes after my night time kratom ration. :lol:


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: danielx]
    #22224560 - 09/11/15 10:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

One of the worst effects I get from it is insomnia with every day use.

You start to get withdrawals at night and the morning when you are hooked on it and it makes for shitty sleep.


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22224576 - 09/11/15 10:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Well yeah, if you're dumb enough to get addicted to it. Thats not a side effect of the kratom, thats a side effect of kratom withdrawals :lol:


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: danielx]
    #22224593 - 09/11/15 10:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

How is that not a side effect of Kratos?  It happens with regular use :tard:


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #22224625 - 09/11/15 10:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

When I have a stash I use around ten grams a day and have inter dose withdrawals and wake up in withdrawal.

Kratom is not just peaches and roses brotha.


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22224694 - 09/11/15 10:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I know its not, I'm an everyday user. Everything in moderation. Sugar will make you obese, give you diabetes, and kill you. But it can be used responsibly. Side effect of kratom is drowsiness, side effect of kratom abuse/addiction is insomnia when you're a dumbass. Theres a distinction between the two folks.

The more important part is kratom can save lives of those addicted to much stronger opiates, and drastically improve lives to those who need pain medicine daily just to function in life.

I also like how respiratory depression was stated as a side effect. Heres the real facts:

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When asked whether kratom was dangerous, leading medical toxicologist Edward Boyer replied:

People are afraid of opioid analgesics because they can lead to respiratory depression [difficulty breathing]. When you overdose on these drugs, your respiratory rate drops to zero. In animal studies where rats were given mitragynine, those rats had no respiratory depression. This opens the possibility of someday developing a pain medication as effective as morphine but without the risk of accidentally overdosing and dying. **** Edward Boyer Professor of emergency medicine and director of medical toxicology at the University of Massachusetts Medical School




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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22224877 - 09/11/15 10:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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When I have a stash I use around ten grams a day and have inter dose withdrawals and wake up in withdrawal.

Kratom is not just peaches and roses brotha.




Try eating like a 5th of that and see if it is as bad :lol:


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    #22225256 - 09/12/15 12:22 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Atrocity.

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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Moonshoe] * 1
    #22252048 - 09/17/15 04:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Dude I just watched the entire episode. This is the dumbest thing I have ever seen in my life. This is retarded


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: topdog82]
    #22252084 - 09/17/15 04:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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When I have a stash I use around ten grams a day and have inter dose withdrawals and wake up in withdrawal.

Kratom is not just peaches and roses brotha.




Kratom withdrawals are benign as fuck. Barely noticeable. You're a pussy dude.


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Dude I just watched the entire episode. This is the dumbest thing I have ever seen in my life. This is retarded




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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #22252100 - 09/17/15 04:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

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When I have a stash I use around ten grams a day and have inter dose withdrawals and wake up in withdrawal.

Kratom is not just peaches and roses brotha.




Kratom withdrawals are benign as fuck. Barely noticeable. You're a pussy dude.


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Dude I just watched the entire episode. This is the dumbest thing I have ever seen in my life. This is retarded




link?





Its a little glitchy and blurry at times. But fuck it. So bad


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: sh4d0ws] * 1
    #22252102 - 09/17/15 04:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Bitter Cactus is soft as fuck when it comes to substance.  He gets "interdose withdrawals" from kratom, permanent psychological damage from one use of psychedelics, he got traumatized by a bit of meth.  Kid is just a weakling.

Anyway, I watched this episode of Dr. Phil.  It was hilarious.


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    #22252109 - 09/17/15 04:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Bitter Cactus is soft as fuck when it comes to substance.  He gets "interdose withdrawals" from kratom, permanent psychological damage from one use of psychedelics, he got traumatized by a bit of meth.  Kid is just a weakling.

Anyway, I watched this episode of Dr. Phil.  It was hilarious.



lmaoooooooo I lost it at your post

But dude I lost brain cells from watching it. So stupid


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #22252209 - 09/17/15 05:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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When I have a stash I use around ten grams a day and have inter dose withdrawals and wake up in withdrawal.

Kratom is not just peaches and roses brotha.




Kratom withdrawals are benign as fuck. Barely noticeable. You're a pussy dude.




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    #22252235 - 09/17/15 05:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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It was only a matter of time. I read an article about etizolam the other day calling it the new "date rape drug"




thing is.... etiz could be used very well as a date rape drug.


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: sanchothestoner]
    #22252339 - 09/17/15 05:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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:canthelpbutlaugh:

It was only a matter of time. I read an article about etizolam the other day calling it the new "date rape drug"




thing is.... etiz could be used very well as a date rape drug.



true. So could xanax? Any benzo really


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: topdog82]
    #22255863 - 09/18/15 11:44 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

A big turkey dinner and a couple glasses of wine could be a date rape drug.  Get the girl all sleepy and passed out then play with her toys.


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    #22256038 - 09/18/15 12:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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A big turkey dinner and a couple glasses of wine could be a date rape drug.  Get the girl all sleepy and passed out then play with her toys.



alcohol is the biggest date rape drug in history. I have heard frat boys "Lets get her hella drug and fuck her" or things of this nature all too many times

Alcohol is also the best date rape drug because you can keep drinking and convince her to drink more. And its so innocuous because it is legal


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: SunnyD]
    #22256131 - 09/18/15 01:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
    #22256717 - 09/18/15 03:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I watched the episode. What a joke! That physician from Stanford should be ashamed of him self--effectively being bought and paid for to say certain things. He was claiming that the mixture of kava, kratom and adderal could likely or inevitably lead to multiple organ dysfunction (MODS).... C'mon! A little common sense is called for here. That's like saying mixing coffee, tea, and acetaminophen of going to cause MODS. I'm not saying kava, kratom and adderal are health food, but from a toxicity standpoint, used within moderation, they don't seem to be that dangerous for an otherwise healthy individual.

Oh... and the best part of it was when the wife (the kratom user) outted the husband for using cocaine and he said 'ya so, I do so recreationally--I'm not an addict'

WOW!


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: pslyke]
    #22256878 - 09/18/15 04:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:facepalm:

Coke is probably worse for the body than kratom + adderal + kava combined :lol:

What :kingtard:ery

I hate adderall too and would never take it personally but I would bet money coke is way worse even when used "recreationally" or not by an addict.


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: musiclover420]
    #22256882 - 09/18/15 04:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I would bet money coke is way worse even when used "recreationally" or not by an addict.




^^this


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: pslyke]
    #22257026 - 09/18/15 04:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Its crazy how hypocritical people are, always looking for a reason to look down on others just to elevate oneself :nonono:


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Achillita]
    #22260739 - 09/19/15 03:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Whelp folks, it was fun while it lasted!


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: SoupSandwich]
    #22260762 - 09/19/15 03:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Now try telling them schizophrenia isn't alcoholism lol


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Konyap]
    #22260965 - 09/19/15 04:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I went on a tiz binge and stopped like 2 weeks ago and I had some shitty fucking withdrawals lol. I could barely sleep and was having hot and cold spells mixed with random body parts going numb. Even my lips. I could barely get out of bed too. so if anything they should focus on etizolam rather than kratom because I'd rather have kratom withdrawal over etizolam anyday. Such an uncomfortable feeling.


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Gorlax]
    #22260983 - 09/19/15 04:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I don't think kratom is going to be made illegal.


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Achillita]
    #22261325 - 09/19/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Dr.Phil only made it in TV because of oprah - he took a huge ride on her coat tails and got his own show because Dr. Phils legal team helped oprah out in the 90s and she gave him a boost by having him on her show and then eventually him getting his own show.

i hate Dr.Phil so much - i havent seen the episode but im sure it puts kratom and kava in a terrile light.

its funny because my cousin who graduated from MIT told me a lot of his friends at MIT were into the legal, herbal highs and kava and kratom seemed to be at the top of the list aside from weed


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    #22261581 - 09/19/15 07:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

someone in my family is married to dr phils daughter or son idk. lmao. not even joking. parents got invited to the wedding.


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    #22261706 - 09/19/15 07:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:lol: you should play nice and get on his will


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: trippinballs420]
    #22261713 - 09/19/15 07:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

dr. phil is a fun show to watch sometimes. The people on that show are ridiculous. :lol:


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22263052 - 09/20/15 12:44 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Dr Phil (o shit) should be dragged down the street by his balls and kicked to death.


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