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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Detached]
#22224411 - 09/11/15 09:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The gov doesn't see it that way. They lump kratom together with designer drugs and I don't blame them think of how many RC's they have had to ban. Kratom is just another one to them and I don't blame them for seeing it that way even though that line of thinking is incorrect.
I do have an issue with your average 16 year old being able to go on their laptops and order any designer drug they want to their home unregulated. Most of those RC's are shit and dangerous anyways. I mean one of our members lost their toes from RC's.
The gov is just trying to protect their people man they don't want any kid to be able to buy these mimic drugs within seconds. Most parents would agree with this notion as well.
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I liked how one of the negative side effects listed for kratom is "insomnia". My room mate can attest thats not true, try to get me through two netflix episodes after my night time kratom ration.
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Bitter Cactus
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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: danielx]
#22224560 - 09/11/15 10:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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One of the worst effects I get from it is insomnia with every day use.
You start to get withdrawals at night and the morning when you are hooked on it and it makes for shitty sleep.
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Well yeah, if you're dumb enough to get addicted to it. Thats not a side effect of the kratom, thats a side effect of kratom withdrawals
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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: danielx]
#22224593 - 09/11/15 10:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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How is that not a side effect of Kratos? It happens with regular use
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Bitter Cactus
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When I have a stash I use around ten grams a day and have inter dose withdrawals and wake up in withdrawal.
Kratom is not just peaches and roses brotha.
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I know its not, I'm an everyday user. Everything in moderation. Sugar will make you obese, give you diabetes, and kill you. But it can be used responsibly. Side effect of kratom is drowsiness, side effect of kratom abuse/addiction is insomnia when you're a dumbass. Theres a distinction between the two folks.
The more important part is kratom can save lives of those addicted to much stronger opiates, and drastically improve lives to those who need pain medicine daily just to function in life.
I also like how respiratory depression was stated as a side effect. Heres the real facts:
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When asked whether kratom was dangerous, leading medical toxicologist Edward Boyer replied:
People are afraid of opioid analgesics because they can lead to respiratory depression [difficulty breathing]. When you overdose on these drugs, your respiratory rate drops to zero. In animal studies where rats were given mitragynine, those rats had no respiratory depression. This opens the possibility of someday developing a pain medication as effective as morphine but without the risk of accidentally overdosing and dying. **** Edward Boyer Professor of emergency medicine and director of medical toxicology at the University of Massachusetts Medical School
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Bitter Cactus said: When I have a stash I use around ten grams a day and have inter dose withdrawals and wake up in withdrawal.
Kratom is not just peaches and roses brotha.
Try eating like a 5th of that and see if it is as bad
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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: DTCharlieB] 1
#22225256 - 09/12/15 12:22 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Atrocity.
Kill him.
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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Moonshoe] 1
#22252048 - 09/17/15 04:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dude I just watched the entire episode. This is the dumbest thing I have ever seen in my life. This is retarded
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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: topdog82]
#22252084 - 09/17/15 04:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bitter Cactus said: When I have a stash I use around ten grams a day and have inter dose withdrawals and wake up in withdrawal.
Kratom is not just peaches and roses brotha.
Kratom withdrawals are benign as fuck. Barely noticeable. You're a pussy dude.
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topdog82 said: Dude I just watched the entire episode. This is the dumbest thing I have ever seen in my life. This is retarded
link?
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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: sh4d0ws]
#22252100 - 09/17/15 04:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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sh4d0ws said:
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Bitter Cactus said: When I have a stash I use around ten grams a day and have inter dose withdrawals and wake up in withdrawal.
Kratom is not just peaches and roses brotha.
Kratom withdrawals are benign as fuck. Barely noticeable. You're a pussy dude.
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topdog82 said: Dude I just watched the entire episode. This is the dumbest thing I have ever seen in my life. This is retarded
link?
Its a little glitchy and blurry at times. But fuck it. So bad
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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: sh4d0ws] 1
#22252102 - 09/17/15 04:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bitter Cactus is soft as fuck when it comes to substance. He gets "interdose withdrawals" from kratom, permanent psychological damage from one use of psychedelics, he got traumatized by a bit of meth. Kid is just a weakling.
Anyway, I watched this episode of Dr. Phil. It was hilarious.
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Burke Dennings said: Bitter Cactus is soft as fuck when it comes to substance. He gets "interdose withdrawals" from kratom, permanent psychological damage from one use of psychedelics, he got traumatized by a bit of meth. Kid is just a weakling.
Anyway, I watched this episode of Dr. Phil. It was hilarious.
lmaoooooooo I lost it at your post
But dude I lost brain cells from watching it. So stupid
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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: sh4d0ws]
#22252209 - 09/17/15 05:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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sh4d0ws said:
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Bitter Cactus said: When I have a stash I use around ten grams a day and have inter dose withdrawals and wake up in withdrawal.
Kratom is not just peaches and roses brotha.
Kratom withdrawals are benign as fuck. Barely noticeable. You're a pussy dude.
LOL
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Malcolm_Xtasy said:
It was only a matter of time. I read an article about etizolam the other day calling it the new "date rape drug"
thing is.... etiz could be used very well as a date rape drug.
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sanchothestoner said:
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Malcolm_Xtasy said:
It was only a matter of time. I read an article about etizolam the other day calling it the new "date rape drug"
thing is.... etiz could be used very well as a date rape drug.
true. So could xanax? Any benzo really
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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: topdog82]
#22255863 - 09/18/15 11:44 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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A big turkey dinner and a couple glasses of wine could be a date rape drug. Get the girl all sleepy and passed out then play with her toys.
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DTCharlieB said: A big turkey dinner and a couple glasses of wine could be a date rape drug. Get the girl all sleepy and passed out then play with her toys.
alcohol is the biggest date rape drug in history. I have heard frat boys "Lets get her hella drug and fuck her" or things of this nature all too many times
Alcohol is also the best date rape drug because you can keep drinking and convince her to drink more. And its so innocuous because it is legal
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