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OfflineBitter Cactus
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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22223209 - 09/11/15 05:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Kratom is addictive the reason I stopped using it is cause I get addicted each time I order it.


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22223345 - 09/11/15 06:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Ya kratom should most definitely be used to ween off opiates instead of subs. Subs are bad new and they just create another bad addiction with possibly worse withdrawals.  And they hand those things out like candy.  People are prescribed 3 8 mg pills a day. That's a crazy amount and even the even the biggest habits don't need 24 mg of sub a day to feel good.


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: ModestMouse]
    #22223428 - 09/11/15 06:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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ModestMouse said:
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I don't think many people watch Dr. Phil anymore.
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the loud angry retards that try to ban stuff prolly do


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Salomon]
    #22223707 - 09/11/15 07:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I'm watching the episode. Dr. Phil is making this chick look dumb as hell.

She is the dumbest kratom user ever. :lol:


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22224083 - 09/11/15 08:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Even tho I'm not a avid user of kratom I'm going to stock up so if its ever made illegal.





You should be fine for at least a while longer, these things usually don't happen overnight...do they?


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Lucis]
    #22224104 - 09/11/15 08:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Kratom will be illegal eventually.

Guaranteed there are too many retards to handle most drugs.


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22224131 - 09/11/15 08:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

people will forget about that Dr. Phil episode in no time  :puddingpop:


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: lillFish]
    #22224153 - 09/11/15 08:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

They had the FDA dude on the episode who certainly was pissed off about the kratom situation.

The government is not gonna let this shit slide lol


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: lillFish]
    #22224200 - 09/11/15 08:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Watch them make it illegal and then all of a sudden kratom becomes a black market "drug" and the price skyrockets...


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22224205 - 09/11/15 08:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Bitter Cactus said:

The government is not gonna let this shit slide lol





hmmm, I remember hearing that back in 2007, still nothing has changed.


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: musiclover420]
    #22224223 - 09/11/15 08:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Watch them make it illegal and then all of a sudden kratom becomes a black market "drug" and the price skyrockets...





Awww fawk tht!!

Time to stock upp


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Lucis]
    #22224227 - 09/11/15 08:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Fennario said:
Quote:

Bitter Cactus said:

The government is not gonna let this shit slide lol





hmmm, I remember hearing that back in 2007, still nothing has changed.




several states made it illegal bra.


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22224237 - 09/11/15 08:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

oh yeah, like 3 of them, glad i  got a kratom tree


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22224286 - 09/11/15 09:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Bitter Cactus said:
The government is not gonna let this shit slide lol




The government genuinely does not have concerns over kratom. The pharmaceutical industries that lobby the government, however, is a different story.


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Detached]
    #22224328 - 09/11/15 09:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Kratom is not competing with legit opiates that is propoganda.

The kratom user demographic is a very small niche and the pharm compagnies could give two fucks about it.


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22224342 - 09/11/15 09:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So what interests do you believe the government has in making kratom illegal? For the moral superiority of it's population?

No... it has nothing to do with that and everything else to do with the almighty dollar.


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Detached]
    #22224359 - 09/11/15 09:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I think the government sees it in the same light as bath salts and I don't blame them. I think most of the RC's are dangerous and probably are best to not be accessible to any 16 year old with a credit card on the internet.

Same goes for kratom I don't think anyone with a prepaid credit card of any age should be able to order large amounts from the net. They could make regulations around it like alcohol but overall it is just another unknown like bath salts were and it is easier to make it illegal.


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Detached]
    #22224362 - 09/11/15 09:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Kratom is pretty benign. Everytime I've done it it has felt like a strong shot of caffeine but without the jitters. I did enjoy its ability to enhance mood though. In my opinion anyone who gets addicted to Kratom would have most likely gotten addicted to something worse had Kratom not existed.


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Magicman69]
    #22224375 - 09/11/15 09:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Kratom is pretty benign. Everytime I've done it it has felt like a strong shot of caffeine but without the jitters. I did enjoy its ability to enhance mood though. In my opinion anyone who gets addicted to Kratom would have most likely gotten addicted to something worse had Kratom not existed.




When I order a bulk amount of kratom off the net I always end up with a physical addiction and a habit and have to go through withdrawals at the end of the three month period or so.

I do think there are some concerns with it. I don't want it to be illegal but if someone informed like me has problems not doing it every day when I have it I can't imagine what your average retard does when they use it.


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Re: Kratom on Dr. Phil [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22224390 - 09/11/15 09:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I am pretty certain there is quite a bit of scientific data that does not correlate kratom with destructive and dangerous behavior like bath salts do. I have certainly never seen the headline that a dose of kratom made someone try to fuck a tree or kill & eat their partner.

Hell, these same kids can go and buy spore syringes with their prepaid CC's... maybe we should make spore syringes illegal... like 3 other shitty states did YEARS ago with no effect.

Maybe the real solution to this "epidemic" is to not allow minors to purchase prepaid credit cards or hold the parents responsible to their child's actions.


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