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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: psilynut]
    #22240581 - 09/15/15 10:07 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm talking about residential construction . I don't see how that's relavent .  Have  you ever bought a brand new house and had problems because of underpaid illegal workers?




I own a painting company, and psilynut is spot on w my experience. I've actually seen most shitty jobs come out of country white boys w no clue as to what they're doing tbh


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: airclay]
    #22240595 - 09/15/15 10:10 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I agree.  A lot of times, a white contractor will feel entitled to be paid no matter how shitty the job is, and almost always ask for money to come back and fix his fuckups.  Illegal day laborers will work their ass off to do it right most of the time.


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: psilynut]
    #22240647 - 09/15/15 10:22 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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No one gets away with doing a shitty job . Everything gets inspected . Everything that has to pass a building code gets inspected by a city inspector . then they write a report about it . Then there's this other thing called a warranty . Consumer doesn't have much to worry about .
  When I built public works stuff I had an inspector looking over my shoulder all day . Lowest bid doesn't always mean you will get the job . Sometimes people just give jobs to contractors they have a good relationship with. It's s trust thing .




sure, it gets inspected, if anyone even bothers to pull a permit.  Also, there is a major difference between a mechanical inspector, and a trade specific inspector.  Warranties are great, if the guy who did the work is licensed and can be found.  Public Works, and residential construction are very different, friend.  Even in residential, new contruction is very different from repair and remodel work.


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #22240661 - 09/15/15 10:27 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I agree.  A lot of times, a white contractor will feel entitled to be paid no matter how shitty the job is, and almost always ask for money to come back and fix his fuckups.  Illegal day laborers will work their ass off to do it right most of the time.




A lot of times, it's a good idea to add an extra 33% to your price if you have to do work for an attorney.  They almost always try to stiff you on the last check


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22240700 - 09/15/15 10:37 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Mr. Wilson]
    #22242075 - 09/15/15 04:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Glenn Beck vows to smuggle Syrian Christians into U.S.

http://www.wnd.com/2015/09/glenn-beck-vows-to-smuggle-syrian-christians-into-u-s/

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Radio host Glenn Beck says he will find a way to smuggle Christian Syrians into the U.S., even if his efforts land him in prison.

“Stop asking for permission! Stop thinking we need permission. … I asked if my audience could raise $10 million before Christmas to bring the Christians in from Syria. We will vet them ourselves. I have former CIA people that are going over, and they’re vetting everybody right now. We can save more people by Christmas than Oscar Schindler saved, OK?”




I think he should put some of them up in his pool house or build an addition for them on his property with the money he plans to raise. 







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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Enlil]
    #22243644 - 09/15/15 10:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Enlil said:
I agree.  A lot of times, a white contractor will feel entitled to be paid no matter how shitty the job is, and almost always ask for money to come back and fix his fuckups.  Illegal day laborers will work their ass off to do it right most of the time.




I see this exact thing on hotels, motels, condos, houses and apartment buildings.

The most recent problems were at an apartment complex - where the original problems with lack of attention starts with the one who designed the blueprints:

  • light switches behind doors
  • fire sprinklers placed in the way of AC filter doors
  • water shut-off valves made of plastic
  • a 30" space for a 30" fridge; fridge door digs into the wall
  • laundry doors so large they can't be opened all the way because of the tub location
  • dryers on the left side, washers on the right... dryer vent to the right of the washer
  • 240v outlet for dryers & stoves placed 2" from the floor


That's on the original blueprints.

Then there's the problem with the contractor not checking work being done:

  • lights positioned randomly
  • drains positioned randomly
  • water supply lines; positioned horizontally; top is hot
  • water supply lines; positioned horizontally; top is cold
  • water supply lines; positioned vertically; left is hot
  • water supply lines; positioned vertically; right is hot
  • water supply lines; positioned horizontally; both are hot, dishwasher supply is cold
  • Electric meter #1 goes to apartment #1; meter#2 to apt#4, meter#3 to apt#2, meter#4 to apt#2 and #5.
  • AC vents installed over holes in the wall that go nowhere
  • smoke detectors installed directly in front of AC vents
  • outlets that aren't connected to anything, no wires to them
  • electrical conduit used as water supply lines
  • water supply lines used as electrical conduit
  • the attic space of an entire building with no insulation at all


Contractor: licensed.
Tradesmen: licensed.
Lumpers: documented Americans.

The only people I would guess may be illegal immigrants are the landscapers, for no other reason than the grass is perfect, the flowers are blooming, the workers always show up to work on time, and their lunch times can be used to adjust atomic clocks.

No, I've no problems with "illegal workers".


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Arctic W. Fox]
    #22243732 - 09/15/15 10:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, illegal workers are great.  That's why when you go to the counties they come from, you can't flush your toilet paper or you'll clog up the gravel pit that they call a septic system.  That's why i spent the bulk of the last decade, going around fixing their fuckups, and having to listen to people ask me with a straight face why it was so much more expensive than when Jose did it the first time.  Its more expensive because i had to find his mistake and fix it which may or may not even be possible without starting over from scratch. I have to do all this extremely carefully, because the remodel was 1 1/2 years ago, and you don't want to tear the whole place up again. When Jose did it, there probably wasn't even walls or floors yet.  Jose was a hack, and i'm a surgeon.  thats why it cost more.

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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Arctic W. Fox]
    #22244052 - 09/16/15 12:05 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I've seen shit like that before where the print fuck ups are from a lazy cookie cutter design from the GC if it's not a custom home. When all the sub-work is compartmentalized nobody gives a shit what the design looks like or how fucked up it looks as long as they have done their job. In the end it boils down to fighting over change orders to get the final payments.


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Astral Pain]
    #22244092 - 09/16/15 12:18 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I was looking at the pictures of thousands of refugees streaming into Hungary the other day.  Wow!  Lots of young, healthy looking males.  i wonder how many sleeper radical terrorists ISIS is inserting into these European Countries?  :smirk:

Let the rape and be-headings begin!!!


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: starfire_xes]
    #22244153 - 09/16/15 12:40 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

There is going to be one hell of an increase in the already horrific rape epidemic going on in Europe from all these animals. Yet all you see on TV is little kids and old ladies crossing over. There's probably a surge in gun purchases where lawfully allowed.


Hungary declares emergency, seals border, detains migrants

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_EUROPE_MIGRANTS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-09-15-06-27-54


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Astral Pain]
    #22244315 - 09/16/15 02:48 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Lmao... Glen Beck :facepalm3:

What a twat.
The depths of his crazy never cease to amaze me. Now he's talking about his CIA contacts! Lmao


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22244476 - 09/16/15 06:07 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Lmao... Glen Beck :facepalm3:

What a twat.
The depths of his crazy never cease to amaze me. Now he's talking about his CIA contacts! Lmao





I know one of his radio hosts is an EX-CIA officer.  Also, can you show me someone who raised more money for say, those immigrants that came across the southern border last year, Haitias during that disaster, and now refugees from the middle east?

He does say some ridiculous stuff but he raises a hell of a lot o money for charitable causes, which he should be commended for.

and yes, he annoys me.


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22244780 - 09/16/15 08:18 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Lmao... Glen Beck :facepalm3:

What a twat.
The depths of his crazy never cease to amaze me. Now he's talking about his CIA contacts! Lmao




I mean, he did share a studio with Oliver North for a while lol :shrug:


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22244842 - 09/16/15 08:39 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Lmao... Glen Beck :facepalm3:

What a twat.
The depths of his crazy never cease to amaze me. Now he's talking about his CIA contacts! Lmao




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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Astral Pain]
    #22244893 - 09/16/15 08:54 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

This latest blunder by obumble reminds me of the mariel boat lift blunder by carter. No doubt there will be a crime explosion in areas hardest hit by the refugees as well as a huge spike in terrorist activity. Our enemies are laughing in disbelief, they knew obumble was a fool but weren't sure he was that big a fool. You can bet they will pack the first 10,000 with sleeper agents and however many more the idiot lets in after that.


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22244971 - 09/16/15 09:18 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Everyone can bitch about the refugee crisis, but maybe you'll think twice next time you start with the "we need to invade and kill all the animals in [country]" bullshit again.


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #22244994 - 09/16/15 09:23 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Everyone can bitch about the refugee crisis, but maybe you'll think twice next time you start with the "we need to invade and kill all the animals in [country]" bullshit again.




I don't think Stone is a pro-Iraq War supporter, so that generalization doesn't apply to him.

Believe it or not, one can be against the foreign wars and still be against illegal immigration/refugees entering the US.


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22245006 - 09/16/15 09:29 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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This latest blunder by obumble reminds me of the mariel boat lift blunder by carter. No doubt there will be a crime explosion in areas hardest hit by the refugees as well as a huge spike in terrorist activity. Our enemies are laughing in disbelief, they knew obumble was a fool but weren't sure he was that big a fool. You can bet they will pack the first 10,000 with sleeper agents and however many more the idiot lets in after that.



I am terribly sorry Stoney, but I do not think I can take anything you say seriously.
The problem is NOT "left or right", as you see it, I am assuming due to enviornmental and social conditioning.  The trouble is radicalism, which you are steeped in.
Keep hitting that rock hard, I promise it will not budge.  Your spewing is simply more insecure banter that our world is filled with, and frankly, nobody cares.


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: JimmyK] * 1
    #22245285 - 09/16/15 10:47 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Stonehenge said:
This latest blunder by obumble reminds me of the mariel boat lift blunder by carter. No doubt there will be a crime explosion in areas hardest hit by the refugees as well as a huge spike in terrorist activity. Our enemies are laughing in disbelief, they knew obumble was a fool but weren't sure he was that big a fool. You can bet they will pack the first 10,000 with sleeper agents and however many more the idiot lets in after that.



I am terribly sorry Stoney, but I do not think I can take anything you say seriously.
The problem is NOT "left or right", as you see it, I am assuming due to enviornmental and social conditioning.  The trouble is radicalism, which you are steeped in.
Keep hitting that rock hard, I promise it will not budge.  Your spewing is simply more insecure banter that our world is filled with, and frankly, nobody cares.




No no no. You've got it all wrong. Stonehenge is the moderate non-partison independent around here.


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