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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#22229403 - 09/12/15 10:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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W said: Reading is the basics for all learning.
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S said: He who warned, uh, the British that they weren't gonna be takin' away our arms, uh, by ringing those bells, and um, makin' sure as he's riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that we were going to be sure and we were going to be free, and we were going to be armed.
Damn lefties.
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Bigbadwooof said: Kind intellectual debate in the realm of politics is not particularly common.
Especially not here. LOL
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I've noticed regarding the debate style. Refreshing considering the assumptions that would be made by many regarding world government views on a site such as this. I've been "foruming" (my word) for a very long time, I love love love not getting ruffled by hotheads like our friend Stonehenge. Frustrated humans do not learn, informed citizens must use facts, logic and common sense to bring to light the truth and change the political environment to one of evolution, not anger. I'll love him till his angry head pops
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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Stonehenge]
#22229586 - 09/13/15 12:02 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've heard that 10,000 is just the beginning. Once the gate is opened everyone and their mother will be looking for a free ride. With a welfare state we can't just let people flood into this country without it breaking the system we have in place.
There have been protests throughout Europe regarding these refugees and I'll bet nobody here knows about our future residents. They could pull anything off here without making a peep during football season. I've heard the family of the kid washed up on the shore made the trip for his father looking for dental care to get his teeth fixed in Europe. The media had a field day with that picture and it's a damn shame.
Thousands flock to anti-migrant demos in E.Europe http://www.samaa.tv/international/2015/09/thousands-flock-to-anti-migrant-demos-in-e-europe/
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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Astral Pain]
#22229595 - 09/13/15 12:04 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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There's a "system" in place?
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No shit. Everyone thinks the laws are broken when they just aren't being followed.
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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Stonehenge]
#22229656 - 09/13/15 12:37 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: >Not what I'm saying at all. More like take in refugees while it is easy to do so and has almost no consequences for the country.
That is a big fat lie. Its not easy and it has loads of consequences just like the illegals.
Taking in 10,000 refugees would have a completely negligible effect on your daily life. There is a huge difference between 3.5 million uneducated workers and 10,000 workers, many of whom are educated.
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You have not given one single valid reason why we should do it. Let china take them in, they are closer and very rich. Let Saudi Arabia do it, for the same reasons.
I have an idea, lets throw out the illegals we already have or make it so they don't stay and meanwhile not let in any more bums. How about that? I can defend my plan a lot better than you can yours which you have not given any good reasons to do it. "we should do it" is not a reason, its an opinion.
I've been explicitly clear with my reasons. We should take them in because of the horrific conditions they are fleeing. No humans should ever have to go through that, and out of compassion, we should take them in and encourage more to flee from the war.
It baffles me that people all over the world can show so little compassion to the people going through this crisis. I know that if people were more aware of the brutal conditions that the Syrians are fleeing from, they'd be much more receptive.
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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: BoldAsLove]
#22229834 - 09/13/15 02:37 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Horrific conditions and fleeing from a crisis is not what is being reported, and hardly the case from the images presented in the media. They are for the most part well fed and dressed military aged men, and some even seen carrying an iphone of other electronic device.
http://www.independentsentinel.com/u-s-prepares-for-unknown-thousands-of-syrian-refugees/
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There is more going on here than refugees fleeing terrorism. Many refugees are well-dressed, are photographed using their iPhones and don’t need help.
There is also a major concern with security and whether this immigration will be used as an opportunity for terrorist groups to enter the country because we lack the database to vet these people.
BREAKING: Despite Terrorism Concerns, U.S. To Accept 10,000 Syrian Refugees
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2015/09/10/breaking-us-to-accept-10000-syrian-refugees-n2050558
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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Astral Pain]
#22230112 - 09/13/15 06:47 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Astral Pain said: http://www.independentsentinel.com/u-s-prepares-for-unknown-thousands-of-syrian-refugees/
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There is more going on here than refugees fleeing terrorism. Many refugees are well-dressed, are photographed using their iPhones and don’t need help.
Interesting. I didn't realize people with food and cell phones wee exempt from terrorist attacks.
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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#22230159 - 09/13/15 07:10 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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airclay said: Lol "western culture" and I'm glad we can agree on something. tell isreal to open its doors too
Well, the ironic aspect of all of this illegal immigration and refugees inflicting the US and Europe is that the biggest promoters of this policy are the Jews, yet Israel doesn't allow any of that for themselves, it's called hypocrisy with an agenda.
What's closer to Syria, Europe and the US or Israel? Talk about a fucking joke.
Israel isn't exactly a safe haven.
Either is Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit, New Orleans, Cleveland, Newark, ect.
What's your point?
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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: qman]
#22230264 - 09/13/15 07:50 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Israel keeps its own Arabs in an open air prison, let's not pretend they give a fuck about anyone but Jews.
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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: qman]
#22230440 - 09/13/15 08:36 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I love the way the leftists, many of whom deny being leftists though its plain to see, always make lots of insults then complain when they get some in return.
10k moochers is just the beginning, there are lots more where they came from. Europe does not want them why should we?
Fal, nice to see you back even though your responses are predictable.
>I didn't realize people with food and cell phones wee exempt from terrorist attacks
Its none of our business what happens over there, this is usa and our job is to take care of our own. We are neither the world cop nor the world savior. In case you haven't noticed, under the previous couple goofs we have been the worlds biggest terrorist.
The left cares nothing about our poor, our homeless, or our unemployed. They will make a few pious words if pressed on the subject but they pass them by in favor or bringing more welfare seekers in who will further depress the job market.
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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Stonehenge] 1
#22230472 - 09/13/15 08:43 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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When are you going to take care of your own education?
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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Stonehenge]
#22230488 - 09/13/15 08:48 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: I love the way the leftists, many of whom deny being leftists though its plain to see, always make lots of insults then complain when they get some in return.
10k moochers is just the beginning, there are lots more where they came from. Europe does not want them why should we?
Fal, nice to see you back even though your responses are predictable.
>I didn't realize people with food and cell phones wee exempt from terrorist attacks
Its none of our business what happens over there, this is usa and our job is to take care of our own. We are neither the world cop nor the world savior. In case you haven't noticed, under the previous couple goofs we have been the worlds biggest terrorist.
The left cares nothing about our poor, our homeless, or our unemployed. They will make a few pious words if pressed on the subject but they pass them by in favor or bringing more welfare seekers in who will further depress the job market.
"The left cares nothing about our poor, our homeless, or our unemployed"
They fall for the elites propaganda time after time and end up doing their dirty work for them.
Immigration (legal and illegal) into the US has ALWAYS been about money for the people at the top, then some idiot says, "it's what America is all about" . Yes, for the very rich!!
Why don't we just bring in the poorest 500 million people around the globe into the US today? Why not? What is the limit, turn the US into a third world nation.
The MSM never covers parts of the US, we already have 2nd world conditions right here in the US today? Drive around the country, anyone can see it for themselves.
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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: qman]
#22230621 - 09/13/15 09:23 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Who's at the top?
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Arctic W. Fox said: If anyone in the United States has a problem with taking in refuges, or migrants, for any reason, perhaps that anyone should move out of the country, because that's kinda what the entire country is about.
- China doesn't say, "Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!"
- Saudi Arabia doesn't say, "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free."
- Israel doesn't say, "Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
You know who says that? You. Americans. That's the position you opted for, and for those who do not support it and are strangled by xenophobia and greed - get the fuck out of the country. You're about as unpatriotic as Walmart. You're pathetic and make me sick.
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Waaah... they're gonna take our jobs! Waaah... they're gonna take out free services designed to help people! Waaah, waaah, waaah!
At the same time, your precious tax dollars are being squandered in order to bomb locations that you can't even find on a map - bomb locations completely off the map (Belgrade - we are all targets). And yet you pretend to be worried about the welfare of "your own people"? You're afraid it'll "ruin Western culture"?
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Let china take them in, they are closer and very rich. Let Saudi Arabia do it, for the same reasons.
Very rich? You're just jelly! Maybe you think they're rich because in the back of your mind you know that your constant consumerism is sending your money to those "rich" countries. They're rich because you, mister flag-waving-name-calling-anti-everyone-but-me-and-mine, keep sending all your money to them. You buy things made in... where? You fill your vehicle's fuel tank with petroleum acquired... where?
This, coming from someone named Stonehenge - a location no where near the United States. But, #MericaFirst, right?
Fuck those Rapeugees.
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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: joe666]
#22230680 - 09/13/15 09:38 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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joe666 said: Fuck those Rapeugees.
Aww... how cute - you came up with another derogatory name. You even capitalized the first letter just like a proper noun. Good boy!
Did you think of that yourself, or did you get help from someone else in your class (lower/no class)?
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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Stonehenge]
#22230855 - 09/13/15 10:15 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: The left cares nothing about our poor, our homeless, or our unemployed.
You're surprisingly clueless about the left. Perhaps you should just let the left tell you what they care about.
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joe666 said: Fuck those Rapeugees.
Aww... how cute - you came up with another derogatory name. You even capitalized the first letter just like a proper noun. Good boy!
Did you think of that yourself, or did you get help from someone else in your class (lower/no class)?
I read that as a joke at Trump's expense
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>Perhaps you should just let the left tell you what they care about.
I see them on this board, they want all the illegals to stay and suck up our resources and take jobs away from americans. They want more to come in which is the topic of this thread. Do you see any leftists saying keep them out? No, and since you are a leftist you must be in favor of more dirtbags coming over as well, no doubt.
Moderates like myself and all rational people want to help our own first. Then, if there is anything left over we might try to help others. But the bleeding heart moonbats kick our people to the curb and want to give support to those that Europe has wisely rejected. When you try to help everyone you help no one. Its like taking in too many people on a lifeboat. The boat sinks and all drown.
pbw >I read that as a joke at Trump's expense
What mental gymnastics did you use to come up with that?
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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Stonehenge]
#22230963 - 09/13/15 10:34 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: pbw >I read that as a joke at Trump's expense
What mental gymnastics did you use to come up with that? 
Trump's own words.
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Donald Trump said: "What can be simpler or more accurately stated? The Mexican Government is forcing their most unwanted people into the United States. They are, in many cases, criminals, drug dealers, rapists, etc."
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Stonehenge said: I see them on this board, they want all the illegals to stay and suck up our resources and take jobs away from americans. They want more to come in which is the topic of this thread.
When did legal refugees become illegal immigrants. Talk about mental gymnastics.
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