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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: BoldAsLove]
    #22228469 - 09/12/15 06:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

sounds to me like, take in the refugees till we drown in them...no thanks.


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: WAN] * 1
    #22228480 - 09/12/15 06:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Not what I'm saying at all. More like take in refugees while it is easy to do so and has almost no consequences for the country.


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: BoldAsLove]
    #22228580 - 09/12/15 07:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

>Not what I'm saying at all. More like take in refugees while it is easy to do so and has almost no consequences for the country.

That is a big fat lie. Its not easy and it has loads of consequences just like the illegals. You have not given one single valid reason why we should do it. Let china take them in, they are closer and very rich. Let Saudi Arabia do it, for the same reasons.

I have an idea, lets throw out the illegals we already have or make it so they don't stay and meanwhile not let in any more bums. How about that? I can defend my plan a lot better than you can yours which you have not given any good reasons to do it. "we should do it" is not a reason, its an opinion.


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Stonehenge] * 2
    #22228940 - 09/12/15 08:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

If anyone in the United States has a problem with taking in refuges, or migrants, for any reason, perhaps that anyone should move out of the country, because that's kinda what the entire country is about.

  • China doesn't say, "Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!"

  • Saudi Arabia doesn't say, "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free."

  • Israel doesn't say, "Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"


You know who says that? You. Americans. That's the position you opted for, and for those who do not support it and are strangled by xenophobia and greed - get the fuck out of the country. You're about as unpatriotic as Walmart. You're pathetic and make me sick.

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Waaah... they're gonna take our jobs! Waaah... they're gonna take out free services designed to help people! Waaah, waaah, waaah!




At the same time, your precious tax dollars are being squandered in order to bomb locations that you can't even find on a map - bomb locations completely off the map (Belgrade - we are all targets). And yet you pretend to be worried about the welfare of "your own people"? You're afraid it'll "ruin Western culture"?

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Let china take them in, they are closer and very rich. Let Saudi Arabia do it, for the same reasons.




Very rich? You're just jelly! Maybe you think they're rich because in the back of your mind you know that your constant consumerism is sending your money to those "rich" countries. They're rich because you, mister flag-waving-name-calling-anti-everyone-but-me-and-mine, keep sending all your money to them. You buy things made in... where? You fill your vehicle's fuel tank with petroleum acquired... where?

This, coming from someone named Stonehenge - a location no where near the United States. But, #MericaFirst, right?



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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Arctic W. Fox]
    #22228996 - 09/12/15 08:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I would say nice rant but it isn't. Its hackneyed and its been done too many times, ho hum.

Those quotes are not govt policy, don't they teach you anything in school? Its some poetic junk from over a century ago. Let the chinks, arabs, and other goofs take them in, not us. 

If you had a clue you would have known we bitch against the bombing all the time. Its our lying idiot president who insists on doing it, not the public. That's why we need someone who is not a member of the establishment who might actually tell the truth now and then.

So you want to come over and suck up some of the freebies too? Well piss off because soon as that bum gets kicked to the curb we will have a major turn around on illegals and no more open arms to any more.


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Stonehenge] * 2
    #22229109 - 09/12/15 09:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Those quotes are not govt policy, don't they teach you anything in school? Its some poetic junk from over a century ago. Let the chinks, arabs, and other goofs take them in, not us.




That's some true American thinking right there! You don't have a clue what government policy is. American schools don't teach American children/young adults anything at all. Budget cuts to education and budget increases to Homeland Security should show you that. Or, aren't you versed in the U.S.'s economic funneling and the "dumbing down" of the entire nation? There's your poetic junk.

And who are you calling a chink, yank? Next you'll be calling your own President "obumble". Name calling is for ignorant children; maybe your mommy can explain it to you.


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If you had a clue you would have known we bitch against the bombing all the time. Its our lying idiot president who insists on doing it, not the public. That's why we need someone who is not a member of the establishment who might actually tell the truth now and then.




When did you start "bitching" about bombing all the time? When did you first notice that the military was getting out of control? Within ten years? Eight? Four? Your lying idiot president has been in office for the past hundred years. Obama? No. Bush? No. Clinton? No. Bush? No. Reagan? No. Carter? No.... The persons controlling your country hides quite a bit deeper in the history books, which you are so unfamiliar with. If they taught you anything in school, you would know to recognize it.

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So you want to come over and suck up some of the freebies too? Well piss off because soon as that bum gets kicked to the curb we will have a major turn around on illegals and no more open arms to any more.




Strange: that sentence really sounds like something a foreigner would say. I can almost hear a non-American accent in your tone. Maroon mentions about shills on this site a lot... I'd be willing to put money down on betting your family is not even originally from the United States.

Interesting twist, there. lol


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Arctic W. Fox]
    #22229172 - 09/12/15 09:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

>When did you start "bitching" about bombing all the time?

Since always, people with a clue would know that. And btw, the quotes you lifted are simply something written on the statue of liberty which we got from the French. Not laws, and not govt official policy though you no doubt wish it was. Stay in your own little back yard, kid.

>Maroon mentions about shills on this site a lot

Is this a confession? We talk about stuff like what you seem to think is new, all the time on this forum. You are no doubt another left wing sheep who believes every word out of the msm.


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Arctic W. Fox] * 2
    #22229209 - 09/12/15 09:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Well said Arctic.
I am new here; I am truly enjoying the heartfelt debates other than a few individuals, whom, as always resort to petty name calling.
Also the insulting others' intellect card, very 1995.
Whilst biting my lip to remain polite, as a dual citizen American and raised in a VERY proud, well educated immigrant family....
I must say the likes of Stone are to be found world wide.
In my traveling I have found many global citizens, let me emphasize, MANY look up to Mr. Obama and his work.
It is very easy to place blame on our Leader, rather than intellectually discuss and solve problems.
Until we as a people stop looking at governing like an NFL match and realize that we are taking part in games created for us to play like children at preschool, we are doomed.
Like it or not.
Fact.


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: qman]
    #22229245 - 09/12/15 10:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Lol "western culture" and I'm glad we can agree on something. tell isreal to open its doors too




Well, the ironic aspect of all of this illegal immigration and refugees inflicting the US and Europe is that the biggest promoters of this policy are the Jews, yet Israel doesn't allow any of that for themselves, it's called hypocrisy with an agenda.

What's closer to Syria, Europe and the US or Israel?  Talk about a fucking joke.




Israel isn't exactly a safe haven.


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: JimmyK]
    #22229262 - 09/12/15 10:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Since always, people with a clue would know that. And btw, the quotes you lifted are simply something written on the statue of liberty which we got from the French. Not laws, and not govt official policy though you no doubt wish it was. Stay in your own little back yard, kid.




The French... I suppose they should stay in their own back yard, too, son. Who are they to describe their original feelings about the United States of America, poetically scribe those feeling in words written down on a statue bigger than anything any American has ever created, then flat-out give that symbol of greatness to the foreign country they respect and love.

Fuck those damn frenchies, amirite? And take your damn mustard with you!


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We talk about stuff like what you seem to think is new, all the time on this forum. You are no doubt another left wing sheep who believes every word out of the msm.




It's new to me, mainly because I had a life prior to being here. I'm kidding - I've been a member of around fifty other forums all around the world, taking in information and cultural experiences and friendships from people you are afraid of. I don't just sit here and talk conspiracies all day, every day - there are quite a few other topics I dip my pen into. Some require me to check Wikipedia, others I use Wikileaks. Most conversations aren't even in English (wow, I know!).

I don't know what a "left wing sheep" is, or what the "msn" means, but maybe I'll look those up sometime. Or maybe not; it does just sounds like more name calling towards people you're scared of, about topics you've no information on. That's okay, though. We all have our vices, oui copain?


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It is very easy to place blame on our Leader, rather than intellectually discuss and solve problems.




Best quote on here! I'd suggest people heed his words. :thumbup:


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: JimmyK]
    #22229283 - 09/12/15 10:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

JK, you can go back where you came from any time. No one will stand in your way. I see you are one of the far leftists, they show their stripes immediately. You said not a word about awf's insults but spoke about my replies to his insults and made a few right off the bat against me. Were you banned under another name and came back as this? You may not last long.

> MANY look up to Mr. Obama and his work.

Many fools perhaps. Even most of the left wingers in this forum don't like him and none of the moderates or right wingers do. But easily fooled foreigners may. He has started or continued many wars, murdered many innocent civilians, wasted our resources and so on. Obviously you think that is a good thing since you speak highly of the bum.

>It is very easy to place blame on our Leader

Our other politicians share some of the blame of course but he did much of it on his own. Perhaps you heard about him insisting on invading Syria to do more killing? Perhaps you heard about his drone policy? Kids with joysticks flying them around killing anyone who looks suspicious.

We have found someone with less of a clue than AWF

Speaking of which, I see he now realizes its not govt policy but something written. I guess there may be hope?


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22229305 - 09/12/15 10:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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S said:
Blah blah bla. Waaah waaah waaah. Me me me.





Yeah, I know!


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Arctic W. Fox]
    #22229325 - 09/12/15 10:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Arctic W. Fox said:
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S said:
Blah blah bla. Waaah waaah waaah. Me me me.





Yeah, I know!



misquoting your debate opponent...real mature


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: WAN]
    #22229334 - 09/12/15 10:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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W said:
Waaaahhh...




You msn left wings are all the same. Go back you your own country, this one is mines!


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Arctic W. Fox]
    #22229345 - 09/12/15 10:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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W said:
Waaaahhh...




You msn left wings are all the same. Go back you your own country, this one is mines!




if you cannot make an argument (I use this word very loosely here) without misquoting maybe you should have kept your mouth shut.  it's embarrassing to watch. 

also, are you 12?


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Stonehenge] * 1
    #22229349 - 09/12/15 10:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

No sir, not a far leftist.... at all.
Thank you for the warm welcome, I appreciate being advised that I may piss off to where I came from; also for reminding me to be less vague.
It appears assumptions are alive and well here
Per your writ:
>Many fools perhaps.
Assumption
>Even most of the left wingers in this forum don't like him and none of the moderates or right wingers do.
Source?
> But easily fooled foreigners may.
Easily fooled humans, there are many.  Agreed
>He has started or continued many wars, murdered many innocent civilians, wasted our resources and so on.
Source with number -vs- previous leaders
>Obviously you think that is a good thing since you speak highly of the bum.
Obviously you need a lesson in English, I simply stated "...many think highly.."
And again with the bum thing.
If you would like to debate factually Stonehenge please, do.


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Stonehenge] * 1
    #22229376 - 09/12/15 10:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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That's why we need someone who is not a member of the establishment who might actually tell the truth now and then.




If you think Trump will stop the bombings and frivolous waste of American dollars on warfare, you're apparently quick to forget his agenda. Trump intends to go back into Iraq. Apparently he thinks we haven't had enough of that.


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22229386 - 09/12/15 10:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Stonehenge said:
That's why we need someone who is not a member of the establishment who might actually tell the truth now and then.




If you think Trump will stop the bombings and frivolous waste of American dollars on warfare, you're apparently quick to forget his agenda. Trump intends to go back into Iraq. Apparently he thinks we haven't had enough of that.




I thought the same thing.
Stonehenge seems rather sure so I thought perhaps (s)he knew something I am not privy to.
It's why kind, intellectual debate is so needed.


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: JimmyK]
    #22229394 - 09/12/15 10:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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No sir, not a far leftist.... at all.
Thank you for the warm welcome, I appreciate being advised that I may piss off to where I came from; also for reminding me to be less vague.
It appears assumptions are alive and well here
Per your writ:
>Many fools perhaps.
Assumption
>Even most of the left wingers in this forum don't like him and none of the moderates or right wingers do.
Source?
> But easily fooled foreigners may.
Easily fooled humans, there are many.  Agreed
>He has started or continued many wars, murdered many innocent civilians, wasted our resources and so on.
Source with number -vs- previous leaders
>Obviously you think that is a good thing since you speak highly of the bum.
Obviously you need a lesson in English, I simply stated "...many think highly.."
And again with the bum thing.
If you would like to debate factually Stonehenge please, do.




You are perfectly welcome here, sir. Stoney is just an angry person, don't mind his insuting attitude.

Also, it is true, most of us 'leftists' are not a fan of Obama. He has governed like a conservative, and been Bush II on almost everything of importance.


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: JimmyK]
    #22229400 - 09/12/15 10:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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It's why kind, intellectual debate is so needed.




Kind intellectual debate in the realm of politics is not particularly common.


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