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Um, I'm not buying that book, maybe you can give me a synopsis
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hostileuniverse said: Um, I'm not buying that book, maybe you can give me a synopsis
Click the link. Read underneath where it says Description in big, bold letters.
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Here's the audio book. Get em while you can before p2p is made illegal.
https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/14350222/Guns_Germs_and_Steel
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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Astral Pain]
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that link already is illegal. KAT getting busted has lead to a great drought of content in the public trackers, I didn't realize how large a share of the torrents KAT had.
PS: me invites to private trackers
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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Crumist]
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Most popular books have audiobook versions on youtube. I'd be surprised if Guns, Germs, and Steel wasnt one of those.
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Guns, Germs and Steel - Audiobook
It can be downloaded in mp3 format using the ss method.
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the torrent is still illegal, as are the youtube vids
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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: The Ecstatic] 1
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Someone drank the Kool Aid in their anthropology class.
"1. The unrivaled extent of the Eurasian landmass allowed the proliferation of many different civilizations, between which information could be exchanged allowing far greater cross-fertilization of cultures.
Wrong! However unified the Eurasian land-mass may look to a cartographer, it is intractably divided by formidable topographical features. Europe is isolated from Central Asia by the Alps, the Urals, the Caucasus, the Russian Steppes, the Taiga and the Anatolian plateau. East Asia is divided from Central Asia by the Thar desert the Himalayas the Gobi desert and the Tian Shan mountains. No significant cultural exchanges took place between these regions until the 15th century, by which time sub-Saharan Africa and America lagged far behind Europe and China in terms of technology and higher cultural attainment. Sub-Saharan Africa lies as close to the Fertile Crescent, regarded as the cradle of civilization, as Western Europe and far closer than China.
2. A diverse abundance of potential food crops is necessary in order for settled agricultural communities to flourish.
Wrong! The Inca created a complex civilization based on the cultivation of two food crops, the potato and maize. Large agricultural communities, like Cahokia in North America, flourished on the exploitation of maize. Western European agriculture was overwhelmingly based on wheat production, China's on rice.
3.The European biome contained a greater variety of domesticable crops than Africa and America and these crops were more nutritious.
Wrong! America had indigenous food crops which were more nutritious than European staples. Beans, corn, squashes and peanuts are superior to wheat and, if grown in rotation, create a self-replenishing agricultural cycle. Far from having no viable indigenous staples, Africa had okra, rice, sorghum, millet, the bambara ground nut, black-eyed peas, watermelons and numerous gourds and tubers, as well as immensely useful plants such as the oil palm and the tamarisk. African slaves actually introduced rice cultivation to the United States. The standard reference on this subject is, "Lost Crops of Africa".
4. Eurasia had more domesticable large mammals than Sub-Saharan Africa or the Americas.
Wrong! Africa has indigenous breeds of sheep, goats and cattle which were spread from the Sudan to the Cape by 200AD. The South Americans domesticated the llama. The North Americans, like the Aboriginals of Australia, almost hunted their domesticable mammals to extinction. Why didn't Europeans hunt horses, cows and sheep to extinction?
5. Only urban civilizations can develop the levels of technological skill and social organization required for military conquest.
Wrong! The two greatest conquerors in history, Atilla the Hun and Ghengis Khan came from nomadic tribal civilizations. Rome was overthrown by nomads. The Indus valley civilization was destroyed by Indo-European barbarians.
6. The transmission of European diseases helped European nations conquer non-European nations.
Wrong! The European nations had achieved such technological superiority to non-European nations by the colonial epoch, that there could be no serious question of a non-European army successfully resisting an attack by a European army. Europeans conquered huge swathes of territory with tiny armies (Pizzaro). Epidemic disease only became a factor post-conquest. In Africa, India and South America native diseases like malaria were just as deadly to Europeans as European diseases were to the indigenous peoples.
7. China lacked the type of convoluted coastline necessary for dissidents to hide out in.
Bizarre! Is Jared Diamond trying to claim that dissidents can only hide on convoluted coastlines? This is about as strange as his assumption that only large bodies of water constitute an effective barrier to trade and travel. China abounds in intractable wastes and remote mountain ranges where bandits and outlaws fled the authority of central government, the most obvious region being the famous water margin.
8. Urban populations are less intelligent than non-urban populations.
Western European civilization sets a premium on education. Abstract reasoning skills are rewarded by better employment prospects, which in turn create enhanced relationship opportunities, meaning that intelligent people are encouraged to procreate with other intelligent people, unlike in Papua New Guinea, where the physical prowess is far more important than deductive logic.
Europe and China developed the worlds greatest civilizations in regions which were no bigger than the regions inhabited by any other cultures, which enjoyed no great advantages in terms of agricultural potential, which had no special abundance of handy food crops and which had particular disadvantages in terms of climate. Diamond's theory sounds so incontestable because he has edited out substantial volumes of contradictory information with the skill and shamelessness of a Stalin era Commissar."
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hostileuniverse said: Um, I'm not buying that book, maybe you can give me a synopsis
Synopsis: Just like most of academia nowadays, extreme bias cannot be avoided and apparently gaping holes in logic don't get the attention they deserve. I have written many papers using peer reviewed journals; it is easy to cherry pick information and form it in a way that fits your worldview.
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How convenient for you
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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: FryersQuest]
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FryersQuest said:
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hostileuniverse said: Um, I'm not buying that book, maybe you can give me a synopsis
Synopsis: Just like most of academia nowadays, extreme bias cannot be avoided and apparently gaping holes in logic don't get the attention they deserve. I have written many papers using peer reviewed journals; it is easy to cherry pick information and form it in a way that fits your worldview.
That's what I figured, I noticed he didn't even try to justify that garbage, maybe he's learning...
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My last anthropology course really took the cake. Cultural relativism is something that should be used as an anthropologist. However, what modern anthropology courses do is distort the original purpose of the concept. They now say that everybody should use cultural relativism all of the time. No matter what culture you come into contact with, we are all equal. That is what they will tell you. When I was 10 years old I could have argued against this nonsense. Science is being used as a political tool nowadays and the temptation to skew information is apparently too great to resist. If you want to read something that is truly disturbing, read this article about a scientist who couldn't follow through with his genetic research because the PC police came in and shut him down.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB115040765329081636
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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: FryersQuest]
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interesting. I read this article about it, because i don't pay for WSJ, and i am intrigued enough to try and find the actual paper now.
Edit: here it is
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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: ballsalsa]
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That is strange, I literally just looked at the article an hour ago. Now when I open it, WSJ wants me to subscribe or sign in.
I absolutely encourage you to find the article. If you can't, it essentially is just a very genuine but naive scientist who gets too close to the truth and it jeopardizes his career. The article ends with the revelation that some things may be better left unknown. When the fact is that many of us already know the truth; there are differences between human populations and we are not all equal.
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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: FryersQuest]
#23700917 - 10/02/16 04:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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check the edit. also, from my first link:
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The researchers emphasize that very little is known about the impact of these variants. They may not have anything to do with cognition or intelligence.
“Just because these genes are still evolving, doesn’t necessarily mean they make you any smarter,” Lahn said. “We’ve evolved genes for selfishness, violence, cruelty—all of which are in place because they may make survival easier. But in today’s society, they’re certainly not condoned.”
Lahn and his colleagues stress these studies only examine two genes, and that the genetic variations within a population often are almost as great as the differences between groups.
“If we look at multiple genes, the ethnic variations such as the ones we found are likely to be counterbalanced by other differences,” Lahn said. “It just happens that we looked at two genes for which the variants favored by selection have a higher frequency in some populations, such as Europeans. It might be that for the next two brain size genes we find, the variants favored by selection will have a higher frequency in Asians or Africans.”
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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: ballsalsa]
#23701314 - 10/02/16 07:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Fair enough. However, the fact still remains that he wasn't able to follow through with these studies because of the fear of the unknown.
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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: FryersQuest]
#23702286 - 10/03/16 01:38 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Science has been political since at least the aftermath of The Bell Curve in 1994.
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#23702589 - 10/03/16 06:51 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Science has been political since the Church put Galileo on house arrest.
Doesnt invalidate facts.
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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: FryersQuest]
#23720465 - 10/08/16 07:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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FryersQuest said: Fair enough. However, the fact still remains that he wasn't able to follow through with these studies because of the fear of the unknown.
I don't know what the WSJ has to say about it, because i don't give them money. I do know that his paper was published in a peer reviewed journal, so I guess that means he followed through enough to complete his study. I don't know what he's done in the interim, but in the author's words: Quote:
. It might be that for the next two brain size genes we find, the variants favored by selection will have a higher frequency in Asians or Africans.
which implies that further studies are planned.
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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: ballsalsa]
#23720696 - 10/08/16 09:14 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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The WSJ article explains how his research was effectively put to a halt.
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