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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Stonehenge] * 1
    #22262834 - 09/19/15 11:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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He made the rules, which she followed.




We had rules in place which idiot overturned with his usual disregard for logic.



That's an example of you whining when laws are rescinded.  You want the Government to tell certain people what they can and can't do, and I don't necessarily disagree with you here, but then you claim you're against the Government passing restrictive laws.

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So you agree revenue is good if it's spent properly?



Everyone is in favor of that. You tried to pass off Norway's success as being due to socialism when in fact most of it was because of the oil.



Why do you think oil is the reason for Norway's success?  Because Norway takes from the private industry and returns the wealth to its citizens.  As ballsalsa already pointed out, the US produces FAR more oil than Norway.
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Wait until the endless waves of broke dirtbags, a few good ones and a few very bad ones take their toll. But no, the usual suspects will blame it on shrub once again. Its shrubs fault, isn't it fal? Come on, you know you want to say it.



We've already had that as a result of the 2008 recession.  Things have gotten better.

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I want less control and I'm not a gop. Why do you want a nanny state to tell you what you can and can't do?



We DON'T.  It's primarily Christian conservatives that want to tell people what they can and can't do.  I'm in Amsterdam right now, where people sell drugs like marijuana and magic truffles in local shops.  Prostitution is legal.  This is the ultimate liberal utopia.  Republicans would never allow us that kind of freedom.

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No matter what the politicians promise, we get no hope or change.

That's why we need a really new broom, like... oh I dunno, maybe trump?



So to get the corporation out of politics, we should vote for a corporate guy?  Hmmmm, I'm not so sure that's a good idea.


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #22263691 - 09/20/15 07:39 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

You very selectively tell us which laws are restrictive like the ones against any and every dirtbag coming over here and taking jobs away from americans. Who is that restrictive against? Not people here legally, it might be restrictive towards dirtbags and that is a good thing, that is what we want. Wait till you lose your job to an illegal and see what you have to say.

Obviously I'm talking about laws against victimless crimes which illegal entry is demonstrably not. Laws against personal drug use and so on are victimless. Do you want the laws against assault, robbery, and carjacking thrown out too? Does that restrict some of your favorite people?

>Why do you think oil is the reason for Norway's success?  Because Norway takes from the private industry and returns the wealth to its citizens.

The oil fields off Norway were never owned by private industry so it was easy to grab a share for govt. Here, with payola being the way things are done, its different. If our govt wants to rent an oil field for a couple bucks an acre, say thank you to obumble and others who kept that in place.


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22263815 - 09/20/15 08:40 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Maybe there's a good reason why Norway shared its oil profits with their citizens, because Norwegians take care of other Norwegians!!!

We don't have that in this country, this melting pot of "cultural diversity" makes it every man for themselves, homogeneous countries can pull off the sharing game, that's never going to happen in the US for obvious reasons.


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: qman]
    #22263830 - 09/20/15 08:45 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Can you pick a scapegoat and stick to it? Jesus.


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #22263880 - 09/20/15 09:07 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Can you pick a scapegoat and stick to it? Jesus.




I'm giving you an insight into the nature of human behavior, tribalism is real and the US and Norway are very different because of that reality.


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: qman]
    #22263932 - 09/20/15 09:28 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The "melting pot" is a failed liberal policy that they cling to despite years of solid evidence that it doesn't work. To a "progressive" facts are inconvenient things to be ignored in favor of grand sounding theories. World history is full of examples of nations being pulled apart by ethnic divisions. But the fools want to bring in even more square pegs to jam into round holes. As long as someone else pays for it libs will keep pushing for crap like that.


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Stonehenge] * 1
    #22264000 - 09/20/15 09:56 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

An over saturated labor market drives wages down, liberals want to let in millions to compete for jobs, then say we should raise the minimum wage....

And who says liberalism ISN'T a mental disease....


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22264803 - 09/20/15 12:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22264817 - 09/20/15 01:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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An over saturated labor market drives wages down, liberals want to let in millions to compete for jobs, then say we should raise the minimum wage....

And who says liberalism ISN'T a mental disease....




Durr deyz Librawlz Stupud! You know Bernie is unsupportive of open boarders.

Stonehenge, how is it that you manage to turn every conversation on here into a fucking circle jerk of bullshit? You reiterate the same fucking shit that has already been refuted a hundred times, and you have the audacity to call someone else a troll.


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22264989 - 09/20/15 01:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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An over saturated labor market drives wages down, liberals want to let in millions to compete for jobs, then say we should raise the minimum wage....

And who says liberalism ISN'T a mental disease....




So did your old account get banned or what?


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #22265308 - 09/20/15 02:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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An over saturated labor market drives wages down, liberals want to let in millions to compete for jobs, then say we should raise the minimum wage....

And who says liberalism ISN'T a mental disease....




So did your old account get banned or what?




Lol, who do you think I am???

And if you could address the issue, that'd be great...


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22265371 - 09/20/15 02:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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An over saturated labor market drives wages down, liberals want to let in millions to compete for jobs, then say we should raise the minimum wage....

And who says liberalism ISN'T a mental disease....




So did your old account get banned or what?




Lol, who do you think I am???

And if you could address the issue, that'd be great...




You showed up in the political forum, out of the blue, having only like 15 posts and started yappin Libertarian horse shit. I think it's a reasonable question, unless you joined the shroomery juet to talk politics.

As for the issue, I have addressed it many times using the exact same verbage you're using. Between you and Stoney we can circle jerk all day.


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22265411 - 09/20/15 03:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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An over saturated labor market drives wages down, liberals want to let in millions to compete for jobs, then say we should raise the minimum wage....

And who says liberalism ISN'T a mental disease....




So did your old account get banned or what?




Lol, who do you think I am???

And if you could address the issue, that'd be great...




You showed up in the political forum, out of the blue, having only like 15 posts and started yappin Libertarian horse shit. I think it's a reasonable question, unless you joined the shroomery juet to talk politics.

As for the issue, I have addressed it many times using the exact same verbage you're using. Between you and Stoney we can circle jerk all day.




Actually I didn't join just for this subforum, but When I found it, I couldn't resist....

I actually am very concerned for MY country, it's taking a real beating, liberalism, like a disease, has infected every part of this once great nation....

For perfectly executed political commentary, you can also follow me on Twitter, @hostileuniverse:wink:


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22265414 - 09/20/15 03:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

We should raise the minimum wage or create a labor movement and demand wages be raised.  Out sourcing jobs to foreigners does create a labor surplus but even in areas of the market with a labor shortage we still find collusion on the part of business to keep labor costs low.

Google and a few other tech giants were recently found to be doing this with their engineers.  When it's cheaper to break the law and pay the fine people are going to break the law and pay the fine.


And I agree.  A disease is destroying the country and the world.  The disease of capital.


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22265475 - 09/20/15 03:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Fair enough. I don't do twitter. Its funny because on the youtubez you got Libertarians like Stefan Molyneux starting Libertarian cults, telling people to separate from their families, etc. Yet you say Liberalism is a disease.

I think corporatism is a disease, but as far as 'liberalism', there are many points which liberals and libertarians see eye to eye just fine. Extremism is the disease. Religion is a disease. I can even see an argument that 'neoliberalism' and 'neoconservativism' are a disease. In a classical sense, conservativism and liberalism are both much more reasonable.


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22265815 - 09/20/15 04:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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An over saturated labor market drives wages down, liberals want to let in millions to compete for jobs, then say we should raise the minimum wage....

And who says liberalism ISN'T a mental disease....




So did your old account get banned or what?




Lol, who do you think I am???

And if you could address the issue, that'd be great...




I don't have any clue, but you've basically confirmed your :puppet: status now.

Also, the issue is non-existent.


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Stonehenge] * 1
    #22265901 - 09/20/15 04:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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You very selectively tell us which laws are restrictive like the ones against any and every dirtbag coming over here and taking jobs away from americans. Who is that restrictive against? Not people here legally, it might be restrictive towards dirtbags and that is a good thing, that is what we want.



If immigrants are brought into the country legally, such as the proposed Syrians, they are not illegals.  I realize you wish they were, but they wouldn't be by definition.

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Obviously I'm talking about laws against victimless crimes which illegal entry is demonstrably not. Laws against personal drug use and so on are victimless. Do you want the laws against assault, robbery, and carjacking thrown out too? Does that restrict some of your favorite people?



No.  Those are clearly laws everyone agrees with.  The ones I want thrown out are the ones that roughly half the people are against, like drug laws, prostitution laws, etc.

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The "melting pot" is a failed liberal policy that they cling to despite years of solid evidence that it doesn't work. To a "progressive" facts are inconvenient things to be ignored in favor of grand sounding theories. World history is full of examples of nations being pulled apart by ethnic divisions. But the fools want to bring in even more square pegs to jam into round holes. As long as someone else pays for it libs will keep pushing for crap like that.



Conservatives are the ones causing division with minorities.  Maybe we should just kick conservatives out of the country to solve the problem?  I'm just kidding of course, but it would work.


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22265926 - 09/20/15 04:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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An over saturated labor market drives wages down, liberals want to let in millions to compete for jobs, then say we should raise the minimum wage....



If more people are working, then more people are spending money, and it all balances out.  If that's weren't true, then what number is "saturated"?  10 people?  1 million people?  100 million people?  At what number do wages start going down for everyone?  You're argument is flawed.
 
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And who says liberalism ISN'T a mental disease....



Educated people say it isn't.  Maybe science and education are a disease in the conservative mind?

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I actually am very concerned for MY country, it's taking a real beating, liberalism, like a disease, has infected every part of this once great nation....



By almost all measures, the middle class started going downhill around 1980.  Any idea why the middle class quit growing then?


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #22265972 - 09/20/15 05:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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An over saturated labor market drives wages down, liberals want to let in millions to compete for jobs, then say we should raise the minimum wage....



If more people are working, then more people are spending money, and it all balances out.  If that's weren't true, then what number is "saturated"?  10 people?  1 million people?  100 million people?  At what number do wages start going down for everyone?  You're argument is flawed.
 
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And who says liberalism ISN'T a mental disease....



Educated people say it isn't.  Maybe science and education are a disease in the conservative mind?

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I actually am very concerned for MY country, it's taking a real beating, liberalism, like a disease, has infected every part of this once great nation....



By almost all measures, the middle class started going pdownhill around 1980.  Any idea why the middle class quit growing then?




Ya see, there is no flaw in my argument, becaus I know when the economy is strong, wages go up, there are many states that have seen this, even with a minimum wage of 7.25, they see wages much higher, starting at 12-15, socialism doesn't make higher wages, economic prosperity does...

Since the 80's? Wages have stagnated under Obama, please explain that...


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #22266008 - 09/20/15 05:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

>If immigrants are brought into the country legally, such as the proposed Syrians, they are not illegals.

I said dirtbags not illegals. They are only llegal by virtue of the chief dirtbag making an unconstitutional end run.

>Conservatives are the ones causing division with minorities.

So you too call obumble a conservative?

>If more people are working, then more people are spending money, and it all balances out.

Most of the illegals send money back home, they spend little here but soak up lots of public services.


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