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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Enlil]
    #22261003 - 09/19/15 04:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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You've been banned before for calling him "fail".  Cut it out or you'll be banned again and longer.



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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #22261041 - 09/19/15 04:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

>I was simply making fun of conservatives for their incredible cowardice for letting a few Syrian refugees in

Many would call it good sense rather than cowardice. Its not a "few" its many, he said himself the first 10,000 were only the beginning and did not put a cap on it.

>I had fun joking with my Uber driver...

We can all point out some good ones. By your own admission she spoke English, had all her documentation and insurance. Uber requires that. She probably entered legally. We are talking about people most of whom speak no English or very badly, have no marketable skills, and worst of all will be concealing terrorists sleepers in their ranks. Our enemies can't believe what a huge fool obumble is and will eagerly take advantage of his naivete.

We have a procedure and a process to get in. All countries have that, the few in Europe who had a poorly thought out policy have had to reverse that in light of the flood of needy people pouring in. If they who know these people all too well don't want them, why should we?

As for Norway, they have tons of money pouring in from their nationalized oil fields. It makes a big difference.


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22261075 - 09/19/15 04:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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No, because some on your side of the fence would be hit hard by that.



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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Enlil]
    #22261089 - 09/19/15 05:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

>I don't have a side of the fence.

Actions speak louder than words.


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22261117 - 09/19/15 05:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Many would call it good sense rather than cowardice.



And many called the invasion of Iraq good sense rather than cowardice.  Though we never found WMDs, conservative cowardice was rampant.

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By your own admission she spoke English, had all her documentation and insurance. Uber requires that. She probably entered legally.



The Syrian refugees would be here legally.  Duh.

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As for Norway, they have tons of money pouring in from their nationalized oil fields. It makes a big difference.



It does?  You now agree collecting money is a good thing for a country???  Well then great!


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Stonehenge] * 1
    #22261121 - 09/19/15 05:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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>I don't have a side of the fence.

Actions speak louder than words.



You've seen nothing but words, though, so that aphorism is pretty much irrelevant here.


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Enlil]
    #22261154 - 09/19/15 05:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:lol:


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Enlil]
    #22261168 - 09/19/15 05:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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No, because some on your side of the fence would be hit hard by that.



I don't have a side of the fence.




When Trump becomes president we'll all have a side of the fence.


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22261200 - 09/19/15 05:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:rofl2:


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #22261222 - 09/19/15 05:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

>And many called the invasion of Iraq good sense rather than cowardice.  Though we never found WMDs, conservative cowardice was rampant.

How quickly and conveniently you forget. It would never have happened without dem acquiescence. Liberal cowardice made it happen.

>The Syrian refugees would be here legally

Only because idiot signed an order. Did you forget this part too?

>>she spoke English, had all her documentation and insurance. She is not sucking up our services and resources while giving nothing back.

>You now agree collecting money is a good thing for a country??? 

You conveniently left that part out (oil) when telling us how good they did and tried to give credit to socialism. Now we know the real reason they are doing well. Besides the fact they don't have an idiot like obumble.


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22261227 - 09/19/15 05:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

>When Trump becomes president we'll all have a side of the fence.

Ojala! meaning lets hope so.


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22261302 - 09/19/15 05:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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She probably entered legally. We are talking about people most of whom speak no English or very badly, have no marketable skills



The Syrian refugees would be here legally.  Duh.



Only because idiot signed an order. Did you forget this part too?



No, I pointed it out to you because you said you were ok with her entering legally, which she would under the new policy.

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she spoke English, had all her documentation and insurance. She is not sucking up our services and resources while giving nothing back.



That's my point exactly.

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As for Norway, they have tons of money pouring in from their nationalized oil fields. It makes a big difference.



It does?  You now agree collecting money is a good thing for a country???  Well then great!



You conveniently left that part out (oil) when telling us how good they did and tried to give credit to socialism. Now we know the real reason they are doing well.



You said they're doing great because they generate a lot of tax revenue.  I agree.


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #22261529 - 09/19/15 06:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

>I pointed it out to you because you said you were ok with her entering legally, which she would under the new policy.

I was ok with her following the rules to get in. Your hero obumble suspended the rules.

>You said they're doing great because they generate a lot of tax revenue.  I agree.

No, I did not say that. I said they had huge oil fields and no idiot like obumble. We could do great on our revenue but you guys voted in the idiot, twice.


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22261809 - 09/19/15 07:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I was ok with her following the rules to get in. Your hero obumble suspended the rules.



He made the rules, which she followed.

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You said they're doing great because they generate a lot of tax revenue.  I agree.



No, I did not say that. I said they had huge oil fields and no idiot like obumble. We could do great on our revenue but you guys voted in the idiot, twice.



So you agree revenue is good if it's spent properly?  So do I.


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #22261922 - 09/19/15 08:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

>He made the rules, which she followed.

We had rules in place which idiot overturned with his usual disregard for logic. He knew all the moonbats would love it and he didn't care about working people.

>So you agree revenue is good if it's spent properly?

Everyone is in favor of that. You tried to pass off Norway's success as being due to socialism when in fact most of it was because of the oil.

Wait until the endless waves of broke dirtbags, a few good ones and a few very bad ones take their toll. But no, the usual suspects will blame it on shrub once again. Its shrubs fault, isn't it fal? Come on, you know you want to say it.


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Stonehenge] * 1
    #22261962 - 09/19/15 08:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Republicans.

Want less governmental control.

Whine when overbearing government laws are rescinded.

Then call everyone else names and point fingers at everyone else.


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Arctic W. Fox]
    #22262116 - 09/19/15 09:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Unless you can name names and point out facts supporting each of those statements, it means nothing. You aren't supposed to be so obvious when you troll.

>Want less governmental control.

A lot of rational people do. I want less control and I'm not a gop. Why do you want a nanny state to tell you what you can and can't do?

>Whine when overbearing government laws are rescinded.

Who whined? No one here did, I'm always glad when stupid laws are repealed or reduced. Some laws are good, they protect us against actual dangers rather than protecting us against ourselves, and against harmless behavior.


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22262211 - 09/19/15 09:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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No, I did not say that. I said they had huge oil fields and no idiot like obumble. We could do great on our revenue but you guys voted in the idiot, twice.




We have huge oil fields, but we don't tax petroleum profits at 70% do we?
Norway's petroleum industry is not actually nationalized anymore. Oil and Gas exploration is done in partnership with private industry.
Which brings me to the other problem with how we treat mineral resources around here.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/06/16/oil-companies-are-drilling-on-public-land-for-the-price-of-a-cup-of-coffee-heres-why-that-should-change/
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While the $2 minimum bid for federally auctioned oil and gas leases is only the starting price, about 40 percent of existing leases were sold at that level. Further, annual rental fees for onshore oil and gas leases – $1.50 per acre during the first five years and $2 per acre each year thereafter – allow drilling companies to hold and explore mineral leases for the price of a cup of coffee.

These low rental rates also fail to account for many of the external costs associated with exploratory drilling and mining, including local air pollution, damage to ecosystems, and truck traffic. In some cases, former hiking and scenic areas are converted into production sites and access roads.  Since these effects must be disclosed in environmental impact statements before lease sales, the federal government can estimate the cost of the damage and raise rental rates to cover them.

Equally pressing, the U.S. government charges a lower royalty rate for onshore oil and gas leases – 12.5 percent – than many U.S. states and foreign countries. California, New Mexico and North Dakota charge between 16.67 and 18.75 percent. Texas rates are as high as 25 percent. The Interior Department’s Bureau of Ocean and Energy Management even increased offshore royalty rates in 2007, from 12.5 percent to 18.75 percent.

But the department’s Bureau of Land Management, which oversees onshore federal lands, has never increased the royalty rate. Further, the financial costs of local air pollution, damaged roads and wildlife habitat disruption were not factored into the royalty rate set in 1920.




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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22262330 - 09/19/15 09:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Why do you think that never has been changed? We all know its because of payola in some form or another. No matter what the politicians promise, we get no hope or change.

That's why we need a really new broom, like... oh I dunno, maybe trump?


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Re: Idiot lets in more refugees [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22262770 - 09/19/15 11:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Why do you think that never has been changed? We all know its because of payola in some form or another.




Unless you can name names and point out facts supporting each of those statements, it means nothing.



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That's why we need a really new broom, like... oh I dunno, maybe trump?








Have you read any of the duck's books? He's not qualified to even run his own hotels and golf courses, and you want him to be, what, a Qwack President? You already had the two shrubberies and their Bush-isms. No need to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that #Merica is the dumbest third-world country on Earth.

It's that whole thing about keeping quiet and let them think america's filled to the gills with idiots - open your mouth and insert foot to remove all doubt.

You seem to be an american, so I don't think you can really understand what your country looks like to those outside of your insane borders, troll.


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