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larry.fisherman
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For a real disorder? How many people do you think self medicate that have depression? Do you really think most people need a doctor to tell them they are depressed? Do you think depression makes it easy to face these things? Not everyone wants SSRIs and shit fucking up their body.
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CHeifM4sterDiezL
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u cant jus say that quitting all drugs is better than taking a ton of drugs all the time its entirely existential
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zappaisgod
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Your faith in them is very strong. I've seen how they can fail. As far as chemicals go I don't think they have much of a clue. The mechanics know what they're doing but the shrinks? Nope.
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Matt87

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Bc, af, the wanderer, and all the other tards should have their own subforum. Other posters that get banned have to ride out their ban in the dickbag forum.
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Dr.Wongburger
Yes!!


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Almond Flour said: What do you say fellas? Why doesnt everyone drop all this illicit drug use? After all my years on the shroomery, and seeing my friends outside the internet take some serious left turns in life, it has become apparent that drug use simply isnt "working" for anyone.
Things get weird, people break their fucking brains, or start acting like dip shits. Whatever hole you are trying to fill with drug use literally leads nowhere. Head over to the physical and mental well being forum and you can get a nice glimpse of whats in store for many of you. 
So drop it! And yes that includes marijuana. Unless you are literally bed ridden or dying of cancer, there is no reason to be blazing all the time. Even my time spent with growers and serious marijuana users up in the PNW simply confirms what I am saying here.
NOTHING GOOD WILL COME FROM YOUR ILLICIT DRUG USE.
You might have a moment of insight that will help you in the long run, but it never ends there (not for the shroomery anyway). This is a population worlds away from the cancer patient who makes peace on LSD or a soldier who heals with MDMA from psychological trauma. No matter what you think you discover on drugs, at the end of the day it will never be enough for you people to help stop the confusion and pain we all experience here on planet earth. 
Give up the drug use! I beg you.
-You will not find some cool trippy meaning behind reality that quenches your thirst for the true source of the divine
-You will not finally be free and blissful all the time as if you are on a permanent afterglow
-You will not fix, solve, discover a fucking THING 
Hear my words, all you young, white, privileged children that make up the bulk of our population. Dont end up like the train-wrecks we love reading about here on the shroomery. I care about you all too much to enjoy reading about the nightmares you will create out of your lives! What you do here has PERMANENT consequences, and not even God will be able to help you once you back yourself into a corner....forced to deal with adulthood using a now physically weak or psychologically broken mind to walk out the rest of your days. 
STOP THIS DRUG USE. 
The only thing that actually caused me to have dislike towards you is the "white privilege". If you really believe in that shit, you must be foolish..
Don't you ever watch king of the hill?
Another thing, I have been getting high my entire adult hood almost (been sober for 3 or 4 months). Where I'm from people smoke marijuana like your average cigarette smoker would smoke cigarettes threw out the entire day. It's no big deal man.
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Bitter Cactus
reformed bad boy



Registered: 01/26/12
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XLCaps said: For a real disorder? How many people do you think self medicate that have depression? Do you really think most people need a doctor to tell them they are depressed? Do you think depression makes it easy to face these things? Not everyone wants SSRIs and shit fucking up their body.
If you have depression I suggest you discuss your treatment options with a medical professional instead of purchasing an impure product from a street thug for relief.
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larry.fisherman
shoulda died already



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Bitter Cactus said: But ya, if you are getting side effects from a medication you must contact your doctor and discuss your treatment options and what is working and not working. I do it with my doctors. Nobody knows how you will react to a certain medication, sometimes it is trial and error because we are all effected differently but it is done under proper medical supervision and done with caution.
You are rationalizing this failure because you are infatuated with your drug dealer. I mean doctor. You are also dodging the point. If they knew that much better then they wouldn't have prescribed him contradictory prescriptions in the first place, if a doctor knows so much about this then why didn't they anticipate the reaction?
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larry.fisherman
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Re: Quit Drugs....all of you [Re: zappaisgod]
#22222093 - 09/11/15 01:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Your faith in them is very strong. I've seen how they can fail. As far as chemicals go I don't think they have much of a clue. The mechanics know what they're doing but the shrinks? Nope.
My uncle that I mentioned earlier has ankylosing spondylitis. Basically his spine is fusing together. His doctor prescribed him a known contradiction to humira and he consequently had numerous strokes and almost died. He was a near vegetable for months and it was quite sad to see.
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topdog82
Death Spirit



Registered: 07/16/10
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Bitter Cactus said: It is sad to see so many drug addicts here self medicating though.
Self medicating is the ultimate rationalization I see here to get high and it is shocking. Please contact your doctors and seek immediate professional medical attention if you are using street drugs to medicate for a real disorder.
Thank you.
But ya, if you are getting side effects from a medication you must contact your doctor and discuss your treatment options and what is working and not working. I do it with my doctors. Nobody knows how you will react to a certain medication, sometimes it is trial and error because we are all effected differently but it is done under proper medical supervision and done with caution.
I dont think you read my posts. I told my doctor that adderall messed up my sleep and eating. He gave me xanax. I told him that xanax made me foggy in the mornings. He gave me more adderall. It ruined my sleep and my tolerance for both went up. He gave me more
It got to a point where I was LITERALLY high 24/7. I was high on something every minute of the day
I have quit both and stopped going to doctors and I feel great. Taking a doctors words as the word of god makes you about as smart as a peanut. Does this not seem stupid to you? taking drugs to cover up mental issues? Then taking more drugs to counteract the side effects of other drugs?
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topdog82
Death Spirit



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XLCaps said:
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Bitter Cactus said: But ya, if you are getting side effects from a medication you must contact your doctor and discuss your treatment options and what is working and not working. I do it with my doctors. Nobody knows how you will react to a certain medication, sometimes it is trial and error because we are all effected differently but it is done under proper medical supervision and done with caution.
You are rationalizing this failure because you are infatuated with your drug dealer. I mean doctor. You are also dodging the point. If they knew that much better then they wouldn't have prescribed him contradictory prescriptions in the first place, if a doctor knows so much about this then why didn't they anticipate the reaction?
seriously
How about instead of "Here bc, take some adderall" how about "what are you eating? How much do you sleep?"
Funny how doctors never even ask these basic questions these days
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Bitter Cactus
reformed bad boy



Registered: 01/26/12
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With my ADD meds we tried concerta first. It didn't work. I told him the side effects and we discussed our treatment options and I was switched to vyvanse. I had immediate relief and we are working closely together to improve my ADD condition and achieve the best outcome.
Doctors are not perfect. They are people too. They do not know how you will react to any medication because we are all different. One person might have amazing results with xanax and the next person does much better with clonazapam.
However, this is what is important.
You are not qualified to self diagnose and prescribe yourself medications.
These doctors have gone to school for years and years to be be qualified to diagnose and prescribe medications.
And to address topdog, if you do not have a good relationship with a doctor and are not achieving with your treament, drop the doctor and find a new one that works for you. Nobody said medical treatment for psychiatric conditions is an easy process. My sister had to try different medications for her depression and suffered for a long time but when she found the proper medication and doctor she did very well and is doing very well in life. It is not an easy process and there is no magic wand to make everything go away.
But please, you are not a doctor and you are not qualified to diagnose and seek out drugs illegally for relief.
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Bitter Cactus
reformed bad boy



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Anyways peace boys I am off to my finance course.
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topdog82
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336 said: lol you know what's funny?
Almond Flour Last seen: 4 hours, 45 minutes
OP started this shit and just dipped. hahaha left BC to take all the flak. XD
LMAO

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Bitter Cactus said: With my ADD meds we tried concerta first. It didn't work. I told him the side effects and we discussed our treatment options and I was switched to vyvanse. I had immediate relief and we are working closely together to improve my ADD condition and achieve the best outcome.
Doctors are not perfect. They are people too. They do not know how you will react to any medication because we are all different. One person might have amazing results with xanax and the next person does much better with clonazapam.
However, this is what is important.
You are not qualified to self diagnose and prescribe yourself medications.
These doctors have gone to school for years and years to be be qualified to diagnose and prescribe medications.
And to address topdog, if you do not have a good relationship with a doctor and are not achieving with your treament, drop the doctor and find a new one that works for you. Nobody said medical treatment for psychiatric conditions is an easy process. My sister had to try different medications for her depression and suffered for a long time but when she found the proper medication and doctor she did very well and is doing very well in life. It is not an easy process and there is no magic wand to make everything go away.
But please, you are not a doctor and you are not qualified to diagnose and seek out drugs illegally for relief.
Bc have you ever consistently for a period of months tried eating three square meals with no processsed food, extra green veggies, 8 hours of sleep, 3-4 days a week of excercise, AND neurofeedback/meditation sessions?
If not, you haven't truly tried to solve your ADHD properly
If I have a headache, I am sure morphine would solve it. and if you want to, go for it. Live your damn life. But to try and act like morphine is a smart long term solution for your headache is incredibly stupid
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larry.fisherman
shoulda died already



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Bitter Cactus said: With my ADD meds we tried concerta first. It didn't work. I told him the side effects and we discussed our treatment options and I was switched to vyvanse. I had immediate relief and we are working closely together to improve my ADD condition and achieve the best outcome.
Doctors are not perfect. They are people too. They do not know how you will react to any medication because we are all different. One person might have amazing results with xanax and the next person does much better with clonazapam.
However, this is what is important.
You are not qualified to self diagnose and prescribe yourself medications.
These doctors have gone to school for years and years to be be qualified to diagnose and prescribe medications.
And to address topdog, if you do not have a good relationship with a doctor and are not achieving with your treament, drop the doctor and find a new one that works for you. Nobody said medical treatment for psychiatric conditions is an easy process. My sister had to try different medications for her depression and suffered for a long time but when she found the proper medication and doctor she did very well and is doing very well in life. It is not an easy process and there is no magic wand to make everything go away.
But please, you are not a doctor and you are not qualified to diagnose and seek out drugs illegally for relief.
So they go to school for years and years to be so knowledgable but don't know what medications contradict eachother. So either you simply aren't paying attention or you acknowledge what I was saying about what little doctors learn about their prescriptions. Which means they don't fucking know. Studies do not equal public or professional knowledge. The government decides those things. They can go to school all they want but they don't learn about every prescription drug out there, and even if they did it's pretty uncommon for them not to be introduced to new medications because the ones they used to prescribe where taken off the market.
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topdog82
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Bitter Cactus said: Anyways peace boys I am off to my finance course.
BC: unless you have tried eating, sleeping, nootropics, neurfeedback, AND staying sober for a period of months, you have not put up ample attempts to solve your ADHD
As such, you are incredibly smart for taking vyvanse
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MinnesnowtaNice
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This thread has given me inspiration to try more drugs.
Seriously though, We should give up drugs guys come on.
We are starting right now. Nobody on the shroomery can do drugs for a year.
Then we will all report back to this thread to share with everyone how much more enjoyment we got out of life.
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Edited by MinnesnowtaNice (09/11/15 02:04 PM)
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topdog82
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MinnesnowtaNice said: This thread has given me inspiration to try more drugs.
Seriously though, We should give up drugs guys come on.
We are starting right now. Nobody on the shroomery can do drugs for a year.
Then we will all report back to this thread to share with everyone who much more enjoyment we got out of life.
drugs are bad
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Malcolm_Xtasy
Oh baby what Is you doin??



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Re: Quit Drugs....all of you [Re: topdog82]
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I can't believe yall are participating in this fuckery
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topdog82
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Malcolm_Xtasy said: I can't believe yall are participating in this fuckery 
"fuckery"
that word in combination with you avatar pic make me
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Malcolm_Xtasy
Oh baby what Is you doin??



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Re: Quit Drugs....all of you [Re: topdog82]
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AF is a decent troll but people fall for the same bait every damn time!
He writes out these fucking essay posts then dips out after like 3 replies and then the thread ends up going for like 10 pages
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topdog82 said:
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Malcolm_Xtasy said: I can't believe yall are participating in this fuckery 
"fuckery"
that word in combination with you avatar pic make me

lol people got annoyed with my riff raff avatar so I decided to change it
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