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OfflineLucisM
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Labels on my beliefs?
    #22220390 - 09/11/15 06:42 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I am a very spiritual person, I believe that there is something called god which is an energy that permeates everything.  Whenever I pray/meditate to god, I feel like there are a number of energies which try to get me to name the god I am praying too, like the energies which make up those main religions are prevalent throughout the world, and they're always looking for new adherents to their faiths so they try to get me to name a god. 

I feel like these energies/spirits are trying to deceive me, instead of me doing my own thing and being happy, they want me to join the group and not be illuminated.

I know this sounds crazy, but these feelings are realer than real.

Does anyone else feel like this at all?  Like there are energies which surround faiths and they try to get you on their side?  I wonder why it's so important for me to change my mind, why these energies try so hard to make me stray from my path.


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Re: Labels my beliefs? [Re: Lucis]
    #22222223 - 09/11/15 02:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Does anyone else feel like this at all?




I experience distinct competing entities operating and building networks of living energy that is a form of mind control.  They try to build up and climb up but there is something pushing them down, like another intelligence that keeps them out of whatever is above.

In my own personal experience the churches are inhabited by intelligences that feed off of human beings energy emissions.


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Re: Labels my beliefs? [Re: FishOilTheKid]
    #22224763 - 09/11/15 10:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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FishOilTheKid said:
intelligences that feed off of human beings energy emissions.




Yes, I agree with this.

Today I went for a run, around the five mile mark I started to give thanks to god for a beautiful day, for good health, etc.  I felt those negative spirits/energies say "which god are you referring too", it was strange.  Same thing I mentioned in my first post, it's like those energies want me to claim a god so badly it makes them hurt. 

I feel like I can achieve a state of happiness, which I desperately need at the current moment in my life, if I just keep on giving thanks to the god I know is everything.  I feel like I would spiritually die if I were to start believing in any faith.


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Re: Labels my beliefs? [Re: Lucis]
    #22225575 - 09/12/15 02:48 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Sorry to be blunt, there's no ill intentions here.
If god is energy that permeates everything, then it is also in you.
By the act of praying, you are creating a separation; making yourself and XY.
Yourself and god, yourself and spirits, yourself and energies.
Taking responsibility spiritually means you align with the truth and say I am all of these things.
If they are me, how do I work with them. This could be a lead to reorient in the more pleasant direction,
for all directions are right anyway.


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Re: Labels my beliefs? [Re: cbub]
    #22231710 - 09/13/15 01:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

No offense taken, I am always open regarding these matters.

I often feel as if I am in the same stream of consciousness as god, which is why many of my prayers come true.  I just don't feel comfortable saying that I am the same thing, maybe I am and am not at a place in my spiritual growth to accept that.

I believe I feel this way because I was raised in a religious home and was taught nothing was higher than god, I am in my early 30's and have not related to the faith I was raised in since I was 19, but I still think those seeds which were planted from my childhood have had an effect on the way I view spirituality.


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Re: Labels my beliefs? [Re: Lucis]
    #22235305 - 09/14/15 02:50 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

That's all good :-)
It's the last illusion to drop anyway, we all have our dance to dance while it all plays itself out.
Most we can do is realize we don't have to pick up the burdens and carry them along the way, for there
are no wrongs.
It does not help for the mind to know the truth, it's something else, the truer inner self has to know..
and it will, if the mind wants it or not.
Enjoy <3


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Re: Labels my beliefs? [Re: cbub]
    #22236679 - 09/14/15 01:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

There is good and evil, but it's relative. Who are you?

Labels are words (sounds) - words (sounds) are confines to describe nature (indescribable). Words, in which we communicate, are no different than a note that is plucked from a harp or guitar. For it is indeed our rational mind which translates the organisation, rhythm and inflection of these "words/sounds" into ideas.

Don't get caught in the fireworks show (of life AND meditation). Life is as it is. Self inquiry is important, but IME there usually comes a point of surrender.

The energies you feel can be "labelled" as a part of your karma. IMO you should treat these experiences as lessons and not as convictions. Would be happy to speak in a PM if you feel it. :peace:

After reading Be Here Now, listen to some of his lectures from the Naropa Institute.

EDIT: Feel the need to enter a personal story. l've also kept hearing his name in the past few years. It was this last summer that I decided to read one of his works (by the support of a shroomery member), and that work was Be Here Now. This was my first introduction into a polytheistic worldview.

*Note - Identify truth, as what you see as you. Certain lifetimes denote zen, tibetan study or even pursuits such as atheism = as "truth" - each lifetime has its own path.

After reading this work, I spent an intimate week with one of the characters from the book. My suggestion is to be open to foreign ideas (your "ideas" are "foreign" to that of foreigners [you see, relatively]). My understanding, as of now, is that deities in hinduism are aspects of the self. For example: Krishna is an aspect of self - who is associated with the heart centre. Krishna is exemplified in text as a young child who plays the flute. And what's been realised is that in essence, Krishna is the flute and you are the flute in which he plays - upon repeating the Hare Krishna mnatra. You see, Krishna (and the mantra) is/are an aspect of compassion just as the words "Om Mani Padme Hum" are in Buddhism. You just tune yourself to that specific frequency.


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