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Shiithead
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Is Jesus Lord?
#22220015 - 09/11/15 03:49 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well??
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jesus was jus a dewd like u or me
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I am the Lord of Many Names.
I have many names!
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fuckin rube goldberger!
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word! On my way to tha top, dawwwwg.
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What do you mean. If your talking about the trinity than yes. Father, son, holy spirit. But techincally there all the same entity.
Just in different incarnations.
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is thread troll?
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Re: Is Jesus Lord? [Re: Salomon]
#22220044 - 09/11/15 04:01 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well, one thing is for sure certain this is a shitpost.
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Apollyphelion said: word! On my way to tha top, dawwwwg.
man i've been watching your marbles for years and i've got to say i like your marbles and the things they do.
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Assuming you are talking about The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, Jesus is Lord.
Philippians 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
There are probably other verses. It's late/ early for me.. I have not slept.. not going to.
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Apollyphelion said: word! On my way to tha top, dawwwwg.
man i've been watching your marbles for years and i've got to say i like your marbles and the things they do.
Thank you very much, oh so very much!
I must ask you a question:
Have you seen other rube goldbergers? Where do I stand next to them?
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I've seen a couple rubies in my day, but you, my friend, are tops. I would never think to pack a bowl in so many steps.
You has many names.
I try to tell my friends and they don't believe, but give it a few centuries..
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It also takes faith on both sides to believe or not believe a magical invisible unicorn is flying around our heads all day everyday and we just don't know. No proof for or against. That is the worst argument because you can make up anything off the top of your head and say the same thing. It takes less faith not to believe then it does to believe those stories IMO
Most likely he wasn't, but I guess theres a possibility for everything , I'll never believe he was and never had or was given a reason to think so but who knows
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It might be a shocker to you but the original holy books do not exist. God allowed them to be destroyed during the first couple of centuries after Jesus.
So first thing to point out is that the printing press didn't exist for a long time after Jesus. The way these scrolls were written was by hand, by scribes, full of errors and very easy to change.
Second thing is Jesus (going off of the gospels) died around 30 CE. Well, Paul (who never actually met Jesus but "authored" half of the New Testament books) has some work that dates to the early 50s, just a couple of decades after Jesus died.
The gospels are even more problematic. They were written by Greek converts. They didn't know Jesus, he was long dead, and they didn't even speak Hebrew, they spoke and wrote in Greek. The earliest gospel comes from Mark - which dates to 70 CE. Luke and Mathew were written around 85-90 CE. And John (the most exaggerated version, as the gospels get written later and later the stories become more and more fake), was written around 95 CE.
So we are talking about 40 years (14,600 days) after Jesus died before anything was written to 65 years (23,700 days). Totally unreliable nonsense.
To make matters worse, NONE OF THESE ORIGINALS SURVIVED. The earliest complete New Testament manuscript, the Codex Sinaiticus dates to around 350 CE...A full 220 years after Jesus died.
Just take a look at the end of the gospel of Mark. In your bible there will be an asterisk that says "last 12 verses not found in the earliest manuscripts". CENTURIES later they added these verses because the ending was abrubt and dull.
This is one example of hundreds.
The New Testament is not accurate, not a good history of the life of Jesus, and only a complete ignorant fool would not recognize this.
Look at the beginning of Luke and the beginning of Mathew. They have 2 totally different made up stories about Jesus's upbringing.
What about John and Mark? They do not have birth narratives. Right in the beginning Jesus is 30 years old and about to begin his ministry.
Not to mention those who bought into what their parents brainwashed them to believe are believing that an Invisible Daddy in the Sky had sex with a woman 2000 years ago (odd time considering humans have been around for 200,000 years), in a random location in Palestine, so that he could birth himself, to commit suicide to show that he loves people born 1000s of years later. It makes zero sense. Oh, and he is going to torture you for eternity if you do not suspend your logical reasoning skills and question the legitimacy of the fairy tale.
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Re: Is Jesus Lord? [Re: Confucian] 1
#22220428 - 09/11/15 06:56 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Soul-Shine

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What's your definition of "Lord"?
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SirShroomsAlott
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SirShroomsAlott said: It also takes faith on both sides to believe or not believe a magical invisible unicorn is flying around our heads all day everyday and we just don't know. No proof for or against. That is the worst argument because you can make up anything off the top of your head and say the same thing. It takes less faith not to believe then it does to believe those stories IMO
Most likely he wasn't, but I guess theres a possibility for everything , I'll never believe he was and never had or was given a reason to think so but who knows
I disagree faith isn't a system of degrees IMO. Either you believe something or you don't. My argument is that the truly "scientific" and rational point of view would be absolute uncertainty. To admit your ignorance and acknowledge that in the end everything is a mystery. Hence the Native American term for reality "The Great Mystery"
I agree with that absolute uncertainty being the most rational point of view you could have. But I disagree with calling it faith to not believe in something depending on what that something is or saying there isn't a system of degrees to it.
The big bang was a bowl of cereal farting and the universe is nothing more than the molecules of gas that comprised that fart expanding outwards away from the cereal's anus, now is it faith to say you don't believe that solely because I say I do believe it? Just because an idea exist it takes faith not to believe in it?
The reason it takes faith to believe in the bible, is because modern science is disproving claims in it or because there has never been anything suggesting it is true, hence the word faith, so contrary to the evidence or lack there of you still have trust it is true. Where there is nothing suggesting it is true, so how is it the same level of faith to not believe as it is to believe??
I'm not trying to disprove the bible or jesus and am willing to openly admit they could be true, but how is it different to believe something solely because someone said it or because you want it to be, compared to not believing because there isn't and hasn't ever been a reason to. Seems like different degrees of belief to me but then again this is just my opinion
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336 said: Still you have no proof that Jesus was not the Messiah. Nor is there any proof that he was. Did you even read my post? It's as if you're trying to prove something to yourself instead of me. It's like right above yours. lol
lol, ever heard that the person that makes up the fairy tale is the one that has to prove it to be true? That is a fact that obviously flies way over your head.
Sebastian Bach was God. Prove he wasn't. Julius Ceasar was God. Prove he wasn't. Abraham Lincoln was God. Prove he wasn't.
You see, you have no proof that they were not the Messiah. Nor is there any proof they were. A true scientist must remain neutral to this query. lol
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336 said: My argument is that the truly "scientific" and rational point of view would be absolute uncertainty.
This is even more ignorant than Shitposters post.
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SirShroomsAlott
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That's a fair argument, thank you for elaborating
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Shiithead said: Well??
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Re: Is Jesus Lord? [Re: Shiithead] 1
#22221689 - 09/11/15 12:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I picture OP at church on Sunday mornings surfing the pub
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Re: Is Jesus Lord? [Re: Niffla]
#22221701 - 09/11/15 12:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Niffla said: I picture OP at church on Sunday mornings surfing the pub
You have no clue how hard I lost it to this
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Its jebus now, get it right. Jesus is old fashioned and racist so you all must say jebus from now on.
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I thought God was Lord?
Can Jesus = God?
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LogicaL Chaos said: I thought God was Lord?
Can Jesus = God?
The church realized that you cant have multiple gods so they combined mary, jesus and God into one. The holy trinity
Nope...nothing bias or strange here...
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Re: Is Jesus Lord? [Re: topdog82]
#22222280 - 09/11/15 02:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Jesus was a Jewish carpenter who was born from a woman that cheated on her man and got pregnant, so she lied and said she was having a virgin birth but God really knocked her up. It's quite a story to say the least.
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topdog82
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Re: Is Jesus Lord? [Re: qman]
#22222283 - 09/11/15 02:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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qman said: Jesus was a Jewish carpenter who was born from a woman that cheated on her man and got pregnant, so she lied and said she was having a virgin birth but God really knocked her up. It's quite a story to say the least.
That actually seems like likely possibility
Is there any historical evidence to this? Or is it simply speculation?
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Nah he's mostly dead at this point
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Re: Is Jesus Lord? [Re: topdog82]
#22222385 - 09/11/15 02:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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qman said: Jesus was a Jewish carpenter who was born from a woman that cheated on her man and got pregnant, so she lied and said she was having a virgin birth but God really knocked her up. It's quite a story to say the least.
That actually seems like likely possibility
Is there any historical evidence to this? Or is it simply speculation?
Have you ever heard of the story of Christianity? It's based on that, you either believe their story or the above.
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Re: Is Jesus Lord? [Re: qman]
#22222506 - 09/11/15 03:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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qman said:
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topdog82 said:
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qman said: Jesus was a Jewish carpenter who was born from a woman that cheated on her man and got pregnant, so she lied and said she was having a virgin birth but God really knocked her up. It's quite a story to say the least.
That actually seems like likely possibility
Is there any historical evidence to this? Or is it simply speculation?
Have you ever heard of the story of Christianity? It's based on that, you either believe their story or the above. 
Well I figured the guy didnt really exist in the first place. So ya. But who knows?
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Re: Is Jesus Lord? [Re: topdog82]
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