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Ghost0420
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What substrate should be used for growing weed?
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Re: What substrate should be used for growing weed? (moved) [Re: Ghost0420]
#22219390 - 09/10/15 11:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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This thread was moved from Other Drugs Discussion.
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Re: What substrate should be used for growing weed? (moved) [Re: DustBunny]
#22219481 - 09/10/15 11:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well I don't know what you're using but it looks fantastic.
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Re: What substrate should be used for growing weed? (moved) [Re: ferrel_human]
#22219618 - 09/11/15 12:40 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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What soil must be used for growing weed?
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Re: What substrate should be used for growing weed? (moved) [Re: Ghost0420]
#22220692 - 09/11/15 08:16 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you can't find decent bagged soil where you are at, I would recommend something like- 1/3 peat or coir, 1/3 compost or worm castings, and 1/3 perlite or lava rock. If you want to keep it simple for amendments, just get some organic tomato or flower fertilizer...otherwise things like kelp, crab, alfalfa, fish, feather, rock dusts, gypsum, guanos, and oyster shells...work well. I personally think organic weed tastes and smells a lot better, and gives a better high, but everyone is different I suppose...
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Re: What substrate should be used for growing weed? (moved) [Re: hummingbird]
#22222216 - 09/11/15 02:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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hummingbird said: If you can't find decent bagged soil where you are at, I would recommend something like- 1/3 peat or coir, 1/3 compost or worm castings, and 1/3 perlite or lava rock. If you want to keep it simple for amendments, just get some organic tomato or flower fertilizer...otherwise things like kelp, crab, alfalfa, fish, feather, rock dusts, gypsum, guanos, and oyster shells...work well. I personally think organic weed tastes and smells a lot better, and gives a better high, but everyone is different I suppose...
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Re: What substrate should be used for growing weed? (moved) [Re: El Torcho]
#22223605 - 09/11/15 06:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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depending on how many plants I recommend "living soil", you can buy it already to go, and then you do not need to add any chemicals during the grow, the microbes take care of everything, just add water. I took mine and mixed it with perlite, and coco coir, it has worked out well.
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Re: What substrate should be used for growing weed? (moved) [Re: mandrin13]
#22224445 - 09/11/15 09:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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^^^Yeah that's the general idea behind growing organically. You feed the soil, and the soil grows your plants. The "secret" to living soil is humus, which is well made compost/castings. The microbes breakdown the amendments over time to make elements available to the plants.
No offense to anyone, but from what I've seen...the Growery might not be the best place to go for grow advice.
OP, there are some good weed forums around...Icmag, and grasscity come to mind... There is lots of info on all different styles of growing. I wish you the best of luck with your new hobby.
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Re: What substrate should be used for growing weed? (moved) [Re: hummingbird]
#22225047 - 09/11/15 11:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's a very forgiving plant, and the advice given is solid. With the right light they'll grow just about anywhere.
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Re: What substrate should be used for growing weed? (moved) [Re: dil8]
#22225292 - 09/12/15 12:35 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Can bagged compost be used?
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Re: What substrate should be used for growing weed? (moved) [Re: Ghost0420]
#22225886 - 09/12/15 06:30 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Might be too hot.. Plants, especially young mj can react in a bad way if exposed to something a little to strong for its current taste. And to whoever mentioned growery is not a viable source for info..wrong, must just not know how to search properly, or hvent really tried. We've got some knowledgeable folks over there the forum is just slow. Anyway.. Back to op
If I were you I'd go two ways for a first time... An easy good soil like fox farm. Or CANNA coco coir. Nutes by CANNA-a&b For soil there is tonnes of choices to fertilize. Personally I use genhydro. But fox farm is good and as I said there are many similar ferts. Organic is great when you are outdoors and want the best ecosystem for your plants, but as far as I'm concerned anyone who makes a claim for them indoors is crazy, too much work/building of the diff exact needs of the plant given each diff amendment. Weed that ain't organic is just as good, NO POTHEAD can tell the difference if given the same stuff organic/not. Just needs to be flushed well prior to harvest. Come to growery for more.. Cheers
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Re: What substrate should be used for growing weed? (moved) [Re: ashfiken]
#22226016 - 09/12/15 07:39 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Will compost mixed with dirt from a vegetable garden do?
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Re: What substrate should be used for growing weed? (moved) [Re: Ghost0420]
#22227320 - 09/12/15 02:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Perfect might have a prob with some pests if you bring indoors, but should work fine.
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Re: What substrate should be used for growing weed? (moved) [Re: ashfiken]
#22227959 - 09/12/15 04:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Its sad how all these people think that cannabis is like some magical plant from outer space, that requires a great deal of esoteric knowledge to grow and feed. If you can grow tomatoes, you can grow weed...in the same kind of soil...there is a reason they call it weed. You can make it as simple or complicated as you want. Mixing soil once IMO is easier than measuring out different nutrients all the time. Its cheaper too, and you can reuse your soil many times...without salt build up or lock outs.
I must not be a pothead, because 8 or 9 times out of ten I bet I could tell the difference. Even if its well flushed, its not the same. IME, the terpene and terpenoid profile doesn't develop as well, and different strains end up smelling the same or very similar. I'm not saying you can't grow decent cannabis with synthetic nutrients, it just won't be as good as if its done right...inside or out.
I'm sure there are great growers on the growery. From what I've seen though, there are also a lot of dead threads and out dated info. As you will see, the OP has not got a response on there...but several on here.
OP- bagged compost varies greatly in quality, but if its made properly, it shouldn't burn your plants...I actually have plants sprout in my compost pile sometimes, and they always look really healthy. If you go the bagged route, worm castings is probably a better choice though overall...just my .02
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Re: What substrate should be used for growing weed? (moved) [Re: hummingbird]
#22228032 - 09/12/15 05:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: What substrate should be used for growing weed? (moved) [Re: hummingbird]
#22228075 - 09/12/15 05:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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hummingbird said: Its sad how all these people think that cannabis is like some magical plant from outer space, that requires a great deal of esoteric knowledge to grow and feed...
^^ this, 1 million times... That plant will grow almost everywhere, and can take a serious beating too... Just try it out. I'm figuring you're using bagseed or something anyway right? If you spent money on expensive seeds, you wouldn't be trying to use things that aren't directly recommended. Speaking of directly recommended - Foxfarm, which was mentioned above works great and has everything you need up through the first few weeks of flowering. Just plant, water, and give light.
If you're using cheap seeds why not germinate some and see how they grow in what you've got? It's surprisingly easy once you've started... I overthought everything my first time.
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Re: What substrate should be used for growing weed? (moved) [Re: dil8]
#22229089 - 09/12/15 09:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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When I was a little boy I remember getting in the car with my dad and seeing a plant growing in the floor board. He told me it was a weed. Years later I asked him about that car and he told me "yeah, I remember that car! it had weed growing everywhere in it". Apparently weed is called weed for a good reason.
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Re: What substrate should be used for growing weed? (moved) [Re: Oggy]
#22229161 - 09/12/15 09:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Will the same dirt that vegetables grow on work?
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Re: What substrate should be used for growing weed? (moved) [Re: Ghost0420]
#22229191 - 09/12/15 09:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Id go with fox farm ocean forest or happy frog. Black gold is a good one too. My soil in my back yard is what I use tho its perfect for my outdoor
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Re: What substrate should be used for growing weed? [Re: Ghost0420]
#22230581 - 09/13/15 09:13 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Its a weed so pretty much anything will work.
But if u want high performance, use an expensive mulched organic soil with lots of microbes.
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Re: What substrate should be used for growing weed? (moved) [Re: hummingbird]
#22233061 - 09/13/15 06:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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hummingbird said: OP- bagged compost varies greatly in quality, but if its made properly, it shouldn't burn your plants...I actually have plants sprout in my compost pile sometimes, and they always look really healthy. If you go the bagged route, worm castings is probably a better choice though overall...just my .02
Do you normally use bagged compost? Or do you ever make your own? I was just wondering if you did make your own, if you did anything special other than just throwing scraps in a pile and waiting...
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Re: What substrate should be used for growing weed? (moved) [Re: cowsRmeat]
#22233161 - 09/13/15 06:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just throw scraps in a pile and wait
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Re: What substrate should be used for growing weed? (moved) [Re: Ghost0420]
#22233855 - 09/13/15 08:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Any soil would work. The thing to look for in soil is pH levels, if they include any microbes, fertilizers, etc.
If you wanted to, you can dig up some dirt from your yard, throw it in the over at iirc 350F and bake it for an hour or so or until the center is the desired temperature to sterilize(and also, unfortunately, kill all microbes beneficial beneficial or not).
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Re: What substrate should be used for growing weed? (moved) [Re: cowsRmeat]
#22236139 - 09/14/15 11:20 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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cowsRmeat said: Do you normally use bagged compost? Or do you ever make your own? I was just wondering if you did make your own, if you did anything special other than just throwing scraps in a pile and waiting...
I have bought bagged stuff before, but I have a pretty good compost pile going. I have rabbits and chickens, so their poop goes into it as well as kitchen scraps and used mushroom subs. Its pretty much make a pile and wait...maybe some turning here and there. If your C/N ratio is good, it can be done in a month or two.
I do find myself buying worm castings though sometimes, because my vermiculture skills are not the best. There are worms in my compost pile, but my worm bin attempts haven't been the most successful.
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Re: What substrate should be used for growing weed? (moved) [Re: hummingbird]
#22237923 - 09/14/15 06:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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cowsRmeat said: Do you normally use bagged compost? Or do you ever make your own? I was just wondering if you did make your own, if you did anything special other than just throwing scraps in a pile and waiting...
I have bought bagged stuff before, but I have a pretty good compost pile going. I have rabbits and chickens, so their poop goes into it as well as kitchen scraps and used mushroom subs. Its pretty much make a pile and wait...maybe some turning here and there. If your C/N ratio is good, it can be done in a month or two.
I do find myself buying worm castings though sometimes, because my vermiculture skills are not the best. There are worms in my compost pile, but my worm bin attempts haven't been the most successful.
Maybe that's what my problem is with my pile - the C/N ratio. I'm pretty lazy with it, but I just wish it wouldn't take so dang long to finish.
I used to have rabbits and worms myself, and both their 'leavings' were useful to add to soils, (you can use fresh rabbit poo in soils without harming your plants, in case you didn't know). But I don't have the rabbits anymore, and my worm system suddenly collapsed this summer (the rain did em in).
I wish I had composting down well enough to be able to not ever have to buy any soils or anything....
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