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First attempt ever. Monotubs of various sizes with WBS-Coir Verm.* update-pics of success!
    #22218707 - 09/10/15 08:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Decided it was time to try my hand at this after thinking about it for 25 years....
I am following Franks 12 steps almost for everything. I acquired everything I need and inoculated my first batch on 9-1-15. I then tried a different tek for WBS for 6 more jars with different seed since my first batch had corn and got too sticky. I made a TiT because my space was too cold and I got the temp up to a steady 76.

As of today 3 of the jars were damn near 35% so I went ahead and shook them up. The other are well on their way. Getting excited at this point since I wasnt too confident using a PC for the first time and worried about contams during the inoculation process.

few pics of the jars:



I plan on not doing the bucket tek and using a oven bag and in a pot with a digital thermometer for the substrate next. Stoked! and hope to get some input along the way.


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
    #22218741 - 09/10/15 08:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: GoblinKing]
    #22218781 - 09/10/15 09:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yes! the Charlie and Emilio approval!:tongue2:


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
    #22224090 - 09/11/15 08:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Busted up 5 more jars tonight. The 3 from last night are recovering very rapidly.

Once colonized a 100% after 1 shake, what's a good time to wait before spawning? Ive seen folks recommend a week.


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
    #22224280 - 09/11/15 09:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

If you're spawning to bulk, i dont think a consolidation period is necessary. Usually PF cakes benefit from a consolidation period.
When you spawn to bulk though, after your sub gets 100% colonized, THEN you can consolidate.

Good luck to you brotha!


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: xachisonfire]
    #22224305 - 09/11/15 09:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Im not sure what you mean?

Its a bulk grow with a monotub using WBS. Im talking about the jars once they appear 100% after you shake them, do you wait about a week before you mix them with the substrate?


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
    #22224330 - 09/11/15 09:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Im not sure what you mean?

Its a bulk grow with a monotub using WBS. Im talking about the jars once they appear 100% after you shake them, do you wait about a week before you mix them with the substrate?




Consolidation is that week period after colonizing finishes so the mycelium can get a firm footing, and use up the last bit of nutrients before fruiting.

You don't need to wait a week when spawning to bulk, once jars are at 100% either spawn to bulk or g2g, you don't want the mycelium to being to consolidate, you want it to continue its growth as fast as possible. You also don't shake at 100% unless you're ready to use.


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: iSmkGrnBud]
    #22224427 - 09/11/15 09:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Why no bucket tek? It does a better job cooking the coir IMO.


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #22228470 - 09/12/15 06:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

dowtish said:
Im not sure what you mean?

Its a bulk grow with a monotub using WBS. Im talking about the jars once they appear 100% after you shake them, do you wait about a week before you mix them with the substrate?




Consolidation is that week period after colonizing finishes so the mycelium can get a firm footing, and use up the last bit of nutrients before fruiting.

You don't need to wait a week when spawning to bulk, once jars are at 100% either spawn to bulk or g2g, you don't want the mycelium to being to consolidate, you want it to continue its growth as fast as possible. You also don't shake at 100% unless you're ready to use.




Thanks for that. I definitely plan on doing G2G with 2 jars of 2 different strains of the ones that grew the fastest.

As soon as they all hit 100% ill break them up and soak them and then mix it with the substrate.

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Why no bucket tek? It does a better job cooking the coir IMO.




I only came to that thought process after seeing the lack of detail about the bucket tek and folks saying they got contaminations in the tub. I read Franks 12 steps and it just seems very basic, but then he has a tek showing jars and a bag. Seems like the bag is less messy and I'll know the exact temp of the coir/verm that way.


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
    #22228510 - 09/12/15 06:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I sterilize my coir.It breaks down the lignin so the cubes can get to the cellulose better. Coir is temperature safe. It has been well documented that temperature is not the vector for coir. Foreign media or contaminated spawn always prove to be the issue.

Frank even used the bucket for hia last couple of grows and they were killer :rockon:


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #22228558 - 09/12/15 07:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I sterilize my coir.It breaks down the lignin so the cubes can get to the cellulose better. Coir is temperature safe. It has been well documented that temperature is not the vector for coir. Foreign media or contaminated spawn always prove to be the issue.

Frank even used the bucket for hia last couple of grows and they were killer :rockon:




Frank said to not go above 170 or you start to sterilize the coir/verm and that it can cause issues.

Are you saying you sterilize just the coir some way before doing the bucket tek?

Also:
"Carefully pour the boiling water into the bucket. Put the lid on and let it sit for 1-3 hours."

That is a quote from Franks 12 step for the bucket tek section. 1-3 hours is not very specific. Does this time line matter as far as everything reaching a certain temp and staying there? I cant see 1 hour being enough. that is one of the reasons I switched to looking at the bag method.


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #22228560 - 09/12/15 07:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I don't really use straight coir substrates. Last time I used coir I didn't do anything to it but I still got a decent flush (first link in my sig).

That said, good on you OP for not messing with cakes and a SGFC and going straight to bulk.

I've pasteurized bulk substrates in bags with a water bath before and it works well. With my pasteurization method you never let the water exceed 170f. Just bring the water to that temp, turn the heat to low, put the substrate bag in, and then set a timer for 90 minutes once the core temp of the bag reaches 145.

However, if you're going to take the time to do proper pasteurization, I recommend trying straw and manure in your bulk substrate. Right now I'm running some tubs with 2:1 straw:horse manure. Talk about inexpensive. Coir is pretty much foolproof though so it's great for practicing your methods for when you decide to start using straw or poo.


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: NumeroEno]
    #22228733 - 09/12/15 07:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #22229087 - 09/12/15 09:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I don't really use straight coir substrates. Last time I used coir I didn't do anything to it but I still got a decent flush (first link in my sig).

That said, good on you OP for not messing with cakes and a SGFC and going straight to bulk.

I've pasteurized bulk substrates in bags with a water bath before and it works well. With my pasteurization method you never let the water exceed 170f. Just bring the water to that temp, turn the heat to low, put the substrate bag in, and then set a timer for 90 minutes once the core temp of the bag reaches 145.

However, if you're going to take the time to do proper pasteurization, I recommend trying straw and manure in your bulk substrate. Right now I'm running some tubs with 2:1 straw:horse manure. Talk about inexpensive. Coir is pretty much foolproof though so it's great for practicing your methods for when you decide to start using straw or poo.




Thanks man. It really only made sense to me after watching a couple PF Teks vids and then coming across tubs. My first thought was, why limit the footprint to jar shaped cakes? Give me an even substrate for more yield! If Im going to spend hours reading, researching and going through the process I might as well have a good harvest.

I'm going to stick to coir/verm at this point since that is what I have, but Im sure ill look into trying different things after I run out of my current inventory.

BTW, I come from the land of lizards as well. The helping friendly book brought me here. :grin:

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Read this thread.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19587865




Aaaannnd that about sums it up...

a. Bucket tek can work
b. Coir still works as a casing
c. Frank has some nice fruits :super:

Thanks for the link. tons of great info and options to work with. I really feel like this is like my other hobby of saltwater reef tanks. There are a million ways to get good results. Just comes down to the one that suits your surroundings and sometimes your wallet.


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
    #22229404 - 09/12/15 10:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Thanks man. It really only made sense to me after watching a couple PF Teks vids and then coming across tubs. My first thought was, why limit the footprint to jar shaped cakes? Give me an even substrate for more yield! If Im going to spend hours reading, researching and going through the process I might as well have a good harvest.

I'm going to stick to coir/verm at this point since that is what I have, but Im sure ill look into trying different things after I run out of my current inventory.

BTW, I come from the land of lizards as well. The helping friendly book brought me here. :grin:




Fuck yeah. You've got the right attitude. I hope you'll stick around :cheers:


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: NumeroEno]
    #22229565 - 09/12/15 11:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Looks like you have a good start to me! I also researched and considered jumping into this hobby for years before I did, gave me a nice head start and a better understanding for all I've learned now through years of experience. As previously stated, no consolidation is really necessary when spawning to bulk, and definitely g2g a few of those jars! Welcome to the most addictive hobby you will ever know lol.


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: magic myc]
    #22230214 - 09/13/15 07:37 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

dowtish said:

Thanks man. It really only made sense to me after watching a couple PF Teks vids and then coming across tubs. My first thought was, why limit the footprint to jar shaped cakes? Give me an even substrate for more yield! If Im going to spend hours reading, researching and going through the process I might as well have a good harvest.

I'm going to stick to coir/verm at this point since that is what I have, but Im sure ill look into trying different things after I run out of my current inventory.

BTW, I come from the land of lizards as well. The helping friendly book brought me here. :grin:




Fuck yeah. You've got the right attitude. I hope you'll stick around :cheers:




Thanks man.
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Looks like you have a good start to me! I also researched and considered jumping into this hobby for years before I did, gave me a nice head start and a better understanding for all I've learned now through years of experience. As previously stated, no consolidation is really necessary when spawning to bulk, and definitely g2g a few of those jars! Welcome to the most addictive hobby you will ever know lol.




I really dont need another hobby to get addicted to! Oh well.... hahhahaaha

I never actually did research on this prior, I just knew it was possible. I came on to the forums a few weeks back and here I am now with 20 jars knocked up. but I am definitely enjoying the process so far. I need to figure out a good method to do some agar after I do my G2G.


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
    #22230221 - 09/13/15 07:39 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I recommend the link in my sig for an easy method to do agar :wink:


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #22230252 - 09/13/15 07:47 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I recommend the link in my sig for an easy method to do agar :wink:




that was the first thread I came across when first looking into agar. Set me on the path to understanding it better for sure. Thanks for the detailed write up.

I have a friend that is on here but not as of late, that suggested a no pour method?


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
    #22230267 - 09/13/15 07:51 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Mine is a no pour method. There are a few others like the grocery store agar tek or proffessor pinheads writeup. Essentially no pours are the same all that is different are the containers used. Maybe a few differences in lid configurations.


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #22230353 - 09/13/15 08:10 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Mine is a no pour method. There are a few others like the grocery store agar tek or proffessor pinheads writeup. Essentially no pours are the same all that is different are the containers used. Maybe a few differences in lid configurations.




Gotcha. thanks.

So back to the question at hand. Do I follow Frank's bucket tek and just let it cool for 3 hours before mixing? I think so. It just seems so damn easy.


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
    #22230403 - 09/13/15 08:27 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yea, letting it cool for 3 hours is just to guarantee the coir isn't gonna cook the mycelium when its spawned. Since it's your first time, every hour or so just stick a thermometer in the expanded coir to check temperature. Id wait until its about 80-85f. Then you're safe to spawn.


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: iSmkGrnBud]
    #22230478 - 09/13/15 08:45 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Yea, letting it cool for 3 hours is just to guarantee the coir isn't gonna cook the mycelium when its spawned. Since it's your first time, every hour or so just stick a thermometer in the expanded coir to check temperature. Id wait until its about 80-85f. Then you're safe to spawn.




I figured it was more about the time sitting for 1-3 hours for the sterilization process. Because Frank then suggests letting it cool overnight or 12 hours after mixing before spawning. But I'm sure this is dependant on when you start. I like to do these things early and finish in the evening. Thanks


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
    #22230758 - 09/13/15 09:58 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Here's a really good detailed writeup on the bucket tek. I definitely suggest checking this out.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19907089


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: NumeroEno]
    #22231030 - 09/13/15 10:51 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Here's a really good detailed writeup on the bucket tek. I definitely suggest checking this out.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19907089




Yeah, I read that one. Seems spot on. I like the bucket in bucket method to maintain the temp.


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
    #22231075 - 09/13/15 10:59 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Mudas method is great for substrates that are not simple coir and verm :thumbup:


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #22233054 - 09/13/15 06:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

well that was fast. All but 4 jars of the original 12 are damn near 100%.

I am about to come up on a crazy work week and dont have time to prep more WBs right now. I have 6 more a week behind these that I can G2G off of later.

But Im realizing now that I have 2 quarts of Hawaiian that will need to be done with a mini-mono. CVG prep tomorrow evening!





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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #22233797 - 09/13/15 07:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Mudas method is great for substrates that are not simple coir and verm :thumbup:




I'd love to make something like that work with hpoo and straw, because pasteurizing in jars is a PITA. I might try muda's method again, but I was also thinking about steam pasteurization.

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    #22233902 - 09/13/15 08:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks. I feel like the dialing in of one large tub and one mini will keep me on my toes. Hopefully things will be okay while Im gone to work. The room where the closet is that im using is where I keep my 2 saltwater aquariums and it stays humid as hell. Like right now its 65%. Im sure once the tubs are going that will go up even more.


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
    #22238322 - 09/14/15 07:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Started my bucket tek tonight. Had to use a calculator to figure out the percentages to prepare one 66 qt and one 27 qt. Had to wing it a bit on the amount of water and I hope Im ok as far as field capacity. *crossing fingers*


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
    #22243410 - 09/15/15 09:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

2 tubs are spawned! Sitting pretty stacked in the closet.

1 27qt mini with Hawaiian and 1 66qt mono with B+. 15 days after MS inoculation.

Im still running my TiT but with a lid on it now. So not really a tub in a tub but just a tub with some heat. Without it seems like the temp is 72 but with it a steady 76. Im going to keep my eye on the humidity in there.

Is there any reason to be concerned with too much humidity? because its been at close to 60% already.


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
    #22243460 - 09/15/15 09:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

You don't want high humidity where you colonize jars, it can compromise the filter. 72 f is what I colonize my jars in.


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    #22243609 - 09/15/15 09:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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You don't want high humidity where you colonize jars, it can compromise the filter. 72 f is what I colonize my jars in.




What constitutes too high?


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    #22243615 - 09/15/15 09:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Hard to say. If its causing the filters to get damp its certainly a problem. For 4 degrees I wouldn't bother with a TIT.


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    #22243690 - 09/15/15 10:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Looking good there dowtish.


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    #22243775 - 09/15/15 10:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Hard to say. If its causing the filters to get damp its certainly a problem. For 4 degrees I wouldn't bother with a TIT.



Gotcha. Ill probably remove it tomorrow.

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Looking good there dowtish.




Much thanks for the suggestions early on.

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    #22252963 - 09/17/15 07:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Is it actually possible to use 2 aggressive quarts in a 27 qt mini mono and it be colonized in 3 days?

Im on 2 days and the entire top layer is white.


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    #22253193 - 09/17/15 08:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yes


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    #22253228 - 09/17/15 08:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I was kind of shocked to see it like that today. I guess I'll pit her into fruiting conditions tomorrow. Wait for a couple of pins and then case it.


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
    #22253798 - 09/17/15 10:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Damn dowtish...that's a super aggressive culture you have there brother, I use 4 quarts for my 27 quart monos and it takes around a week to colonize.
Be careful, sometimes if the spawn and substrate didn't get mixed well (I've made that mistake myself) the top will look colonized, but it won't be totally done.
If you have doubts, post a pic, and some members can let you know for sure.
It's your call, but I wouldn't wait for pins to case...normally you case at 100% colonization then put into Fruiting if it's CVG...if you are using Jiffy mix for casing...Case, let the casing layer colonize to about 30% then introduce into Fruiting conditions... I have an aggressive B+ culture that I put into Fruiting for a couple days then case with CVG...
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    #22255714 - 09/18/15 10:59 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Damn dowtish...that's a super aggressive culture you have there brother, I use 4 quarts for my 27 quart monos and it takes around a week to colonize.
Be careful, sometimes if the spawn and substrate didn't get mixed well (I've made that mistake myself) the top will look colonized, but it won't be totally done.
If you have doubts, post a pic, and some members can let you know for sure.
It's your call, but I wouldn't wait for pins to case...normally you case at 100% colonization then put into Fruiting if it's CVG...if you are using Jiffy mix for casing...Case, let the casing layer colonize to about 30% then introduce into Fruiting conditions... I have an aggressive B+ culture that I put into Fruiting for a couple days then case with CVG...
But do whatever works for you bro...YOU are the person that knows your culture the best. Either way
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Thanks man. I am a total noob so I really have no ide whats best. LOL

I thought about the fact that I may have not mixed it properly. But I also used a clearish painters plastic and can see the sides and its whit as well. I was scared to lift the lid for a pic because I didnt want to lose my GE and trick it into fruiting. IDK if thats even possible, but read it here somewhere.

I think once I get home tonight ill make my decision whether to wait or not. I honestly think its ready, but would hate to fruit it too early.

I'll probably case it at the same time I remove the tape and stuff the holes with polyfill.


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    #22256062 - 09/18/15 12:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Are you casing with leftover CVG (Coir,Vermiculite,Gypsum)...or using something different?


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    #22256364 - 09/18/15 02:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Are you casing with leftover CVG (Coir,Vermiculite,Gypsum)...or using something different?




Leftover CVG


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    #22258210 - 09/18/15 09:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

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Are you casing with leftover CVG (Coir,Vermiculite,Gypsum)...or using something different?




Leftover CVG



Then you can case it and introduce Fruiting Conditions (taking tape off, stuff with Polyfil, etc.)
If you haven't read this yet, check it out it...It helps with your next step. It's about dialing in your tub and stuffing with Polyfil.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17332777

Keep us posted...I'm interested to see how fast it fruits, ask if you are unsure of anything... And pictures are helpful... Easier to help you if we can see what's going on.
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    #22258456 - 09/18/15 10:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Darkhome said:
Quote:

dowtish said:
Quote:

Darkhome said:
Are you casing with leftover CVG (Coir,Vermiculite,Gypsum)...or using something different?




Leftover CVG



Then you can case it and introduce Fruiting Conditions (taking tape off, stuff with Polyfil, etc.)
If you haven't read this yet, check it out it...It helps with your next step. It's about dialing in your tub and stuffing with Polyfil.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17332777

Keep us posted...I'm interested to see how fast it fruits, ask if you are unsure of anything... And pictures are helpful... Easier to help you if we can see what's going on.
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Thanks man for assistance. I am almost certain Ive read all of Franks threads concerning monotubs at least twice. :super:

It occurred to me today that since I used the clear plastic for the liner I could just pick the tub and check out the amount of colonization from underneath. It is completely colonized on top but only about 40 percent on the bottom. I'd say at this rate I'll be putting it into fruiting conditions in 3 days.


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
    #22258569 - 09/18/15 11:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I use clear painter's plastic for a liner too, for the same reason. I like to know my sub is really fully colonized. How's your tub coming? It seems like you're ready to case from what I've read, but you don't necessarily have to case cubes. Depending on your room's RH you can just leave the tub taped up until you see knotting and then start the Fae, but I live Ina dry climate so I pretty much always case.

Coir/verm is an excellent casing material and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. If you choose to case, put your layer down super smooth, flat, and level, and wait until you see myc poking through on about 1/3 of the tub. Then initiate FAE, and refer to Franks thread on dialing in your tub.


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: NumeroEno]
    #22259256 - 09/19/15 07:48 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I use clear painter's plastic for a liner too, for the same reason. I like to know my sub is really fully colonized. How's your tub coming? It seems like you're ready to case from what I've read, but you don't necessarily have to case cubes. Depending on your room's RH you can just leave the tub taped up until you see knotting and then start the Fae, but I live Ina dry climate so I pretty much always case.

Coir/verm is an excellent casing material and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. If you choose to case, put your layer down super smooth, flat, and level, and wait until you see myc poking through on about 1/3 of the tub. Then initiate FAE, and refer to Franks thread on dialing in your tub.




Well, the small 27 qt tub will be at 100% in the next 2 days I think. The 66qt tub has 5 days or so.

I have read so many pros and cons for casing, but after everything it seems to provide a better pinset, so that's why Im doing it. But I definitely dont have issues with humidity in the room because I have 160 gallons of saltwater aquariums set up in the same room.

So you are suggesting that I put the casing layer down and not put it into fruiting immediately. So many options it crazy. I think with the smaller tub I'm going to case it and put it into fruiting at the same time, but the 66 qt I'm going to do what you are suggesting and wait for a 1/3 to poke through before fruiting.

I also really need to prep some more WBS as I have more jars ready and need to get them spawned. I guess I have to go buy more tubs. sheesh! what a problem!


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
    #22259887 - 09/19/15 11:54 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

More jars ready



27qt tub. sorry for the bad pic. best I can do with the lid on


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    #22268346 - 09/21/15 08:01 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So I went ahead and cased the smaller tub last night as it is colonized quickly. While I had the lid off I took a pic.


After discussing with a friend I believe I am going to go ahead and put it into fruiting conditions tonight.


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
    #22273444 - 09/22/15 10:38 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Got home yesterday evening and and went to pull the tape off the small tub and decided to check out the bottom of the 66qt tub. It was definitely a 100%. So it got a 1/2" casing layer of CVG and put into fruiting as well.

I mounted my light and did not stack the tubs. I hooked up a small fan on low on the top shelf of the closet and pointed it up. I will be monitoring for the next few days to dial everything in.

Im fairly confident with my polyfill on the large tub, but the mini mono will be interesting since I did a different size holes on the bottom and small hole pattern on top.

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    #22292216 - 09/26/15 08:32 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I am 5 days into fruiting conditions, but I also cased them, no pins yet.

I am slightly concerned with the smaller tub since I just drilled 5 small holes on the short sides up high with no poly. One side looks completely dry with no moisture. So I went ahead and taped up 3 out of 5 holes to see how it goes.

My other thought is fruiting in this small closet might not be the best for FAE, but the temp in there is perfect. I have my fan blowing up at the ceiling and its set up high on a shelf so I know its flowing well in there and is indirect. Im just wondering if I need more clearence on both long sides of the tubs for FAE to happen evenly.

Ive thought about pulling them out and just setting them on the kitchen table but am afraid one of my dogs will get to it, and I really have nowhere else for them to go.

I also know that since I cased it could easily be 10 days before I see pins, but I'm just wondering about my efforts on properly dialing in the tubs.


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    #22292264 - 09/26/15 08:52 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Depending on the airflow dynamics in a room 5 holes laid out in the pattern I designed will produce huge amounts of FAE. If you are running a fan shut it off, those designs are meant to be used without a fan. If you read my minimono writeup that.configuration is mean to be used with a casing. If you are not casing then taping 2-3 of the holes will be essential. Remove the tape only when the pinset is in.

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    #22292483 - 09/26/15 09:42 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Depending on the airflow dynamics in a room 5 holes laid out in the pattern I designed will produce huge amounts of FAE. If you are running a fan shut it off, those designs are meant to be used without a fan. If you read my minimono writeup that.configuration is mean to be used with a casing. If you are not casing then taping 2-3 of the holes will be essential. Remove the tape only when the pinset is in.

Edit, disregard my comments on casing. Since you did case this should work nice for you. Keep up misting as needed :thumbup:




Im going to leave the tape on for today and see how it looks tomorrow. I turned the fan back down to low.

I havent misted at all yet. Should I just mist the sides? or the casing as well? The myc is slowly creeping through in areas of the CVG casing now.


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
    #22292686 - 09/26/15 10:20 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yes mist when dry. Mist the substrate directly. Please ditch the fan, they are not needed with the hybrid holes and do more damage than good. Leave the closet open if your worried about FAE.


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #22295007 - 09/26/15 06:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Yes mist when dry. Mist the substrate directly. Please ditch the fan, they are not needed with the hybrid holes and do more damage than good. Leave the closet open if your worried about FAE.




Only the small tub has the hybrid small holes drilled, the 66qt is drilled with a 1 1/2" hole with polyfill. It has much more condensation built up.


I cut off the fan for now.



The 27qt




both tubs


I also made a super mini with a single qt jar of a single strain. We'll see what happens. I dont plan on casing it. Should be 100% by tomorrow. Also got 6 jars ready for another 66qt. I think I'll use one for G2G though.


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
    #22295042 - 09/26/15 06:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Definitely do G2G bro, once you get it down it's fast and a great way to increase your spawn...everytime I do a spawn run, I make 2 extra jars for G2G... Sometimes I drop a little leftover spawn onto some Agar for fun.
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    #22295046 - 09/26/15 06:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

That all looks pretty good. Keep trucking :thumbup:


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
    #22295051 - 09/26/15 06:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: newrook]
    #22295427 - 09/26/15 07:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks everyone. Going to prep some WBS on Monday for G2G.

Love the old school NES, but such a pain now to get it to run on my old school TV. When I start playing it, I quickly realize I just dont have the time or patience I once had to keep trying to beat games like when I was a kid. hahaaha


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    #22295440 - 09/26/15 07:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I consider Battletoads for the NES to be the most difficult game I ever wrapped (twice no cheats) :wink:


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
    #22295461 - 09/26/15 07:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I play an old school NES and Super NES emulator on my laptop, download any Roms you want...even other country's imports and rare games...there Are a ton of sites...I just beat Final Fantasy 2 uncut...Final Fantasy 5 in Japan I think. Long live the NES!!!
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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: Darkhome]
    #22296184 - 09/26/15 09:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I run that shit on my iPhone there's a free program called retroarch that runs every emulator up through PSX on android and jailbroken iOS.

I have to agree battletoads is probably the most difficult game of all time.

OP your tub is looking good. It can take weeks for pins to form after initiating FAE.


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: NumeroEno]
    #22297365 - 09/27/15 08:29 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I run that shit on my iPhone there's a free program called retroarch that runs every emulator up through PSX on android and jailbroken iOS.

I have to agree battletoads is probably the most difficult game of all time.

OP your tub is looking good. It can take weeks for pins to form after initiating FAE.




I am beginning to think that since I cased it and it appears that the myc is just colonizing the casing now, that maybe I fruited it too early. Although I could see the top and bottom of the sub was completely 100%.

Has anyone ever posted a typical timeline from for mono tubs? Given everything goes well.


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    #22297377 - 09/27/15 08:31 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Stop being so noid. Colonizing the casing is perfectly normal, and there's no right way to case man. You can case and fruit at any moment after that.


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    #22297385 - 09/27/15 08:34 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I only colonize the casing before introducing FAE with peat. It can take as long as a month for pins sometimes. Be patient and let them do. Long as the casing don't dry out, the less you look at them the better.


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    #22297443 - 09/27/15 08:56 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I swear im not being paranoid. Im just simply pointing out things im thinking since this is my first attempt. I really am confident that all is going well, just looking for feedback from those that are more experienced, which is basically everyone here. hahaha!

Ive just seen photos where it appears that the casing didnt colonize at all and the fruit came right up through it. Or maybe they just patched it? I guess its very possible this could colonize again before pinning.

I think the 27qt casing is a bit dryer than the 66qt. I'll mist it today.


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    #22297462 - 09/27/15 09:01 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)


Some genetics colonize a casing quite a bit


Some don't :P


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    #22297538 - 09/27/15 09:24 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Are those 2 different types pictured?

So youre saying that the genetics of the particular strain might cause the myc to act differently? Even if you were to provide them the exact same substrate and casing layer, temperature etc.?


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    #22297550 - 09/27/15 09:29 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yes 2 different trays with different genetics.

I'm saying that every genetic (when 2 spores meet to make a hyphae) is different. Even if it's the same "strain" (more proper term is variety, AKA genetic variance).

Both those trays were in the exact same environment, spawned, cased, and fruited af the same time. The 2nd one had fruits 1 day before the first one.


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    #22297560 - 09/27/15 09:31 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Gotcha. Thanks for the explanation.

So when it comes to MS inoculation timelines can vary from tub to tub.


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    #22297593 - 09/27/15 09:40 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Oh god ya! :lol: it'll never be the same. That's why I don't get how people can claim something works at making shit pin. I just believe in giving them what they need, which is a lot of fae and a great surface hydration.


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    #22297616 - 09/27/15 09:46 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

There are certain requirements/tropisms needed for pinning. But they are what's neccessary and providing them will not speed up pinning, it will simply allow for it. If you do not provide them and see no pins then provide them and pin come up all that did was allow for it too happen. Nothing was sped up.

They will pin when they do. If you don't see any in 6 weeks you can then chalk it up as a loss.


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    #22300500 - 09/27/15 08:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Well I just got home from a music festival and the 27qt tub has pins!:thumbup:
Im seeing only 4 right now, Ill be interested what it looks like in the morning.


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    #22302904 - 09/28/15 01:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

hmmmmm.....



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    #22313282 - 09/30/15 10:20 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

So the 27qt tub is letting me down. The first few pins to show up look great but nothing new has really popped up in the last couple of days. I'm hoping its just genetics and the rest of the tub will explode in a couple of days.

The 66qt tub is just starting to show pins as of this morning. we shall see how it does. will get some pics in a bit.


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
    #22313289 - 09/30/15 10:24 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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hmmmmm.....





You see how your coir is turning to that light brown color, that shit is drying out bro...


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    #22313345 - 09/30/15 10:45 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Youre going to state that based off of a grainy cell phone pic?

I really dont think its that dry. Maybe Im wrong? Any way to truly determine that? Other than the moisture on the walls of the tub?


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    #22313364 - 09/30/15 10:51 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Take a pic of the whole tub. We can't see anything important from that.


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    #22313589 - 09/30/15 11:43 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

this is the 27qt



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    #22313603 - 09/30/15 11:46 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

27qt



66qt



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    #22313617 - 09/30/15 11:50 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I think it looks good. Just give it more time


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    #22313618 - 09/30/15 11:50 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Bottom poly needs to be stuffed tighter but all things considered its not terrible.  If it wasn't cased you might have problems but stuff those bottom holes way tighter and be patient. This is ms right?  Don't expect a full canopy from ms, you have lots of genetics in there, some might be working together and lots won't. They will pin when ready.

There is plenty of primordia and thats good. Just stuff that bottom poly way tighter and it will be fine.


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    #22313711 - 09/30/15 12:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I think it looks good. Just give it more time




I think my problem is that Ive been working from home the last 3 days. Way too much time to be around it and think about it. hahahaha!
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Bottom poly needs to be stuffed tighter but all things considered its not terrible.  If it wasn't cased you might have problems but stuff those bottom holes way tighter and be patient. This is ms right?  Don't expect a full canopy from ms, you have lots of genetics in there, some might be working together and lots won't. They will pin when ready.

There is plenty of primordia and thats good. Just stuff that bottom poly way tighter and it will be fine.




Going to restuff the bottom holes super tight now.

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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
    #22314676 - 09/30/15 03:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Well FML!

I just noticed Ive got a shitload of side pins.

I guess my humidity levels on top were fucked.


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
    #22314899 - 09/30/15 03:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

You can fix your humidity by putting a blanket of peat moss and vermiculite on top. The humidity on the surface will be 100% and it will pin like crazy. You could also use the wax paper or the bubble wrap tek, but they're not so efficient.


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    #22315166 - 09/30/15 04:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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You can fix your humidity by putting a blanket of peat moss and vermiculite on top. The humidity on the surface will be 100% and it will pin like crazy. You could also use the wax paper or the bubble wrap tek, but they're not so efficient.




I already cased it with CVG, so Im not going to add another layer.

Im beginning to think that I need to add a humidifier to the closet.


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
    #22315334 - 09/30/15 05:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Humidifier in a monotub, that's not a wise move. If you already cased your substrate you just need to wait. You probably messed up the fruiting cycle, it might take a little longer to pin on the surface.


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: Aureus]
    #22315370 - 09/30/15 05:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Clearly, you are high. :crazy2:Where did you read I was going to put the humidifier in the mono tub?


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
    #22315393 - 09/30/15 05:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Don't automate your monotub with a humidifier dude. I don't think I need to draw it for you, so you can understand the message.


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: Aureus]
    #22315412 - 09/30/15 05:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Ok dude....

I would think that by raising the RH in the room it may help in the tub as well. Maybe not much but better than nothing.

Im also not convinced this digital hygrometer is worth a fuck.


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
    #22320188 - 10/01/15 05:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

27qt Today






66qt is getting a much better pinset. This is one corner, but there about 12 more of these clusters.


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
    #22325084 - 10/02/15 06:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Well I just got home to find the 27qt ready for a few to be harvested. It was 89 grams and there will be more ready in the morning. Not really happy with the side pins and the lack of pinset in this tub, but all in all, being my first time Im pretty stoked at the effort. 32 days from inoculation and I got fruit!



The 66qt is going to be much better.



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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
    #22325200 - 10/02/15 06:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

It looks dialed in well,  the sub looks good and its loaded with knots. I think ya just got one of the rare cases of bad genetics. I bet it blows up on the second flush.


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #22325296 - 10/02/15 07:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

My buddy told me the same thing. Said to pull the liner out tomorrow, get all the side pins out and get ready for a better second flush.


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
    #22327262 - 10/03/15 08:56 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Pull the substrate out this morning on the 27 and got all the side growth and a few from the top.



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    #22331936 - 10/04/15 09:46 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Pretty fucking stoked! I got over an ounce from the 27qt from the first flush once I got the last stragglers this morning. Side pins yes, but whatever.

I really mixed my sub and grains together but kind of loose. Im wondering if I pack it down a bit, not too much, but better than before that this will aleviate that and let the liner shrink to the sides better?

Also, this is the 66qt as of this morning. :mushroom2::eek::mushroom2::eek:


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
    #22331993 - 10/04/15 10:05 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Myc needs those air pockets in the soil but a light pat to make sure everything is level is just fine :super:,

Key is not to overdo it. Fuck everybody's tubs, idgaf if you got sidepins or not good fucking job brotha!

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    #22332047 - 10/04/15 10:17 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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Myc needs those air pockets in the soil but a light pat to make sure everything is level is just fine :super:,

Key is not to overdo it. Fuck everybody's tubs, idgaf if you got sidepins or not good fucking job brotha!

:justastonishing:




I will definitely focus on an even layout. I got to get some more sub done today, but might not be capable as Im debating trying out the fruits of my labor!

Thanks for the kind words brother! Definitely giving the props to the wealth of knowledge and experience here on the forum. Made it pretty easy to have success on my first go at it.


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
    #22332055 - 10/04/15 10:19 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:hippie:

Dude, eat them. I always eat > work. Fuck that man, enjoy the fruits of your labor.


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    #22332061 - 10/04/15 10:21 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I remember Tmethyl never used liners cause he thought side pins were awesome. The other thing to keep in mind is that top fruiting is a bit of an unnatural thing for cubes. They prefer to pin from the sides of the substrate in nature and sometimes you get genetics that will fight real hard to do just that.

At the end of the day what matters is ya got a nice pull :rockon:


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    #22332124 - 10/04/15 10:39 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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:hippie:

Dude, eat them. I always eat > work. Fuck that man, enjoy the fruits of your labor.




Right on man! I might. The house is a mess though. Got to clean a bit, always bothers me if I eat them and I see dust and things not organized. My brain suddenly lets me know those things are out of place, and notices every dog hair! LMAO

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I remember Tmethyl never used liners cause he thought side pins were awesome. The other thing to keep in mind is that top fruiting is a bit of an unnatural thing for cubes. They prefer to pin from the sides of the substrate in nature and sometimes you get genetics that will fight real hard to do just that.

At the end of the day what matters is ya got a nice pull :rockon:




Exactly! but damnit those pics I see of even canopies is so damn sexy! I know I couldnt accomplish that on a first time MS and not knowing how to dial in everything, but you guys have given me a goal to try for.

BTW, turning the fan off in the closet was the catalyst for keeping the moisture levels and humidity right.


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    #22332144 - 10/04/15 10:48 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah fans can be real sketchy and work for some but are disasters for other people. As soon as someone has issues with drying first thing I suggest is to kill the fan.


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    #22332156 - 10/04/15 10:50 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Nice :super:,

Everyone wants that full canopy :lol:, give it a few months or a year or two and you'll be doing that consistently. The most important thing to remember is take your time with your cultures and try everything at least once :rockon:


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: taGyo]
    #22334549 - 10/04/15 08:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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Yeah fans can be real sketchy and work for some but are disasters for other people. As soon as someone has issues with drying first thing I suggest is to kill the fan.



Being that its a fairly small closet it really didnt need the additional airflow. I thought it would because it was a closet and I had the door shut. Shows how much I know!

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Nice :super:,

Everyone wants that full canopy :lol:, give it a few months or a year or two and you'll be doing that consistently. The most important thing to remember is take your time with your cultures and try everything at least once :rockon:




Definitely interested in other cultures.


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
    #22334572 - 10/04/15 08:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

More Mush Porn!

given all the crazy mix of genetics, im harvesting twice a day. More in the morning!:tongue2:



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    #22334669 - 10/04/15 08:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:holyshitbubbles:  Lookin good!


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    #22336044 - 10/05/15 08:36 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Yeah Buddy!:super:


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    #22336062 - 10/05/15 08:39 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

More this morning. This tub got me busy!:grin:



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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
    #22338760 - 10/05/15 09:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Harvested 2 more times today on the 66qt. Got 3 1/2 ounces from it on this first flush.

My super tiny nano tub with the 1 qt jar mix is showing some pins. And I spawned another 66qt tonight of PE Hawaiians. :cool:


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    #22349619 - 10/08/15 10:57 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Well shit...I think my 27qt has gotten cobweb mold on it. Ill get some pics when I get home. I shouldve removed it from the closet but wasnt thinking straight this morning. Having it in there, can it cause issues for my other tubs?


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
    #22368587 - 10/12/15 02:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I guess I was mistaken on the cobweb mold. It was just myc recolonizing.

Im fairly certain the 27qt is done with its second flush. Was very sporadic over a few days, but decent.

The 66qt just started its second flush and produced this monster.


Got to enjoy the results this weekend. Gratifying is the least I can say.


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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
    #22589674 - 11/29/15 10:21 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I havent logged in for a bit, but wanted to follow up on my total yield for my first grow.

I dont remember the weight at this point but I filled 4 qt jars and one 1/2 gallon jar completely full of cracker dry. :mushroom2::cheers:


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    #22591759 - 11/29/15 06:32 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

:fuckinawesome:


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    #22634296 - 12/09/15 01:57 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Hahahahahaha! yep! Many good weekends have been had!


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