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dowtish
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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: Darkhome]
#22255714 - 09/18/15 10:59 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Darkhome said: Damn dowtish...that's a super aggressive culture you have there brother, I use 4 quarts for my 27 quart monos and it takes around a week to colonize. Be careful, sometimes if the spawn and substrate didn't get mixed well (I've made that mistake myself) the top will look colonized, but it won't be totally done. If you have doubts, post a pic, and some members can let you know for sure. It's your call, but I wouldn't wait for pins to case...normally you case at 100% colonization then put into Fruiting if it's CVG...if you are using Jiffy mix for casing...Case, let the casing layer colonize to about 30% then introduce into Fruiting conditions... I have an aggressive B+ culture that I put into Fruiting for a couple days then case with CVG... But do whatever works for you bro...YOU are the person that knows your culture the best. Either way Good Vibes! And
Thanks man. I am a total noob so I really have no ide whats best. LOL
I thought about the fact that I may have not mixed it properly. But I also used a clearish painters plastic and can see the sides and its whit as well. I was scared to lift the lid for a pic because I didnt want to lose my GE and trick it into fruiting. IDK if thats even possible, but read it here somewhere.
I think once I get home tonight ill make my decision whether to wait or not. I honestly think its ready, but would hate to fruit it too early.
I'll probably case it at the same time I remove the tape and stuff the holes with polyfill.
-------------------- So crucify the ego, before it's far too late To leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical, And you will come to find that we are all one mind Capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable. Just let the light touch you And let the words spill through And let them pass right through Bringing out our hope and reason ...

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Darkhome
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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
#22256062 - 09/18/15 12:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Are you casing with leftover CVG (Coir,Vermiculite,Gypsum)...or using something different?
-------------------- “The shaman is not merely a sick man, or a madman; he is a sick man who has healed himself.” ~Terence McKenna~ "NOTHING"...I post or say is "TRUE"...Any pictures are taken from the Web and any conversation is just research for a fictional character. That being said; He is constantly seeking knowledge and evolving.
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dowtish
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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: Darkhome]
#22256364 - 09/18/15 02:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Darkhome said: Are you casing with leftover CVG (Coir,Vermiculite,Gypsum)...or using something different?
Leftover CVG
-------------------- So crucify the ego, before it's far too late To leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical, And you will come to find that we are all one mind Capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable. Just let the light touch you And let the words spill through And let them pass right through Bringing out our hope and reason ...

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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
#22258210 - 09/18/15 09:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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dowtish said:
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Darkhome said: Are you casing with leftover CVG (Coir,Vermiculite,Gypsum)...or using something different?
Leftover CVG
Then you can case it and introduce Fruiting Conditions (taking tape off, stuff with Polyfil, etc.) If you haven't read this yet, check it out it...It helps with your next step. It's about dialing in your tub and stuffing with Polyfil.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17332777
Keep us posted...I'm interested to see how fast it fruits, ask if you are unsure of anything... And pictures are helpful... Easier to help you if we can see what's going on.

-------------------- “The shaman is not merely a sick man, or a madman; he is a sick man who has healed himself.” ~Terence McKenna~ "NOTHING"...I post or say is "TRUE"...Any pictures are taken from the Web and any conversation is just research for a fictional character. That being said; He is constantly seeking knowledge and evolving.
Edited by Darkhome (09/18/15 09:24 PM)
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dowtish
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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: Darkhome]
#22258456 - 09/18/15 10:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Darkhome said:
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dowtish said:
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Darkhome said: Are you casing with leftover CVG (Coir,Vermiculite,Gypsum)...or using something different?
Leftover CVG
Then you can case it and introduce Fruiting Conditions (taking tape off, stuff with Polyfil, etc.) If you haven't read this yet, check it out it...It helps with your next step. It's about dialing in your tub and stuffing with Polyfil.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17332777
Keep us posted...I'm interested to see how fast it fruits, ask if you are unsure of anything... And pictures are helpful... Easier to help you if we can see what's going on.


Thanks man for assistance. I am almost certain Ive read all of Franks threads concerning monotubs at least twice. 
It occurred to me today that since I used the clear plastic for the liner I could just pick the tub and check out the amount of colonization from underneath. It is completely colonized on top but only about 40 percent on the bottom. I'd say at this rate I'll be putting it into fruiting conditions in 3 days.
-------------------- So crucify the ego, before it's far too late To leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical, And you will come to find that we are all one mind Capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable. Just let the light touch you And let the words spill through And let them pass right through Bringing out our hope and reason ...

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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
#22258569 - 09/18/15 11:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I use clear painter's plastic for a liner too, for the same reason. I like to know my sub is really fully colonized. How's your tub coming? It seems like you're ready to case from what I've read, but you don't necessarily have to case cubes. Depending on your room's RH you can just leave the tub taped up until you see knotting and then start the Fae, but I live Ina dry climate so I pretty much always case.
Coir/verm is an excellent casing material and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. If you choose to case, put your layer down super smooth, flat, and level, and wait until you see myc poking through on about 1/3 of the tub. Then initiate FAE, and refer to Franks thread on dialing in your tub.
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dowtish
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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: NumeroEno]
#22259256 - 09/19/15 07:48 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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NumeroEno said: I use clear painter's plastic for a liner too, for the same reason. I like to know my sub is really fully colonized. How's your tub coming? It seems like you're ready to case from what I've read, but you don't necessarily have to case cubes. Depending on your room's RH you can just leave the tub taped up until you see knotting and then start the Fae, but I live Ina dry climate so I pretty much always case.
Coir/verm is an excellent casing material and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. If you choose to case, put your layer down super smooth, flat, and level, and wait until you see myc poking through on about 1/3 of the tub. Then initiate FAE, and refer to Franks thread on dialing in your tub.
Well, the small 27 qt tub will be at 100% in the next 2 days I think. The 66qt tub has 5 days or so.
I have read so many pros and cons for casing, but after everything it seems to provide a better pinset, so that's why Im doing it. But I definitely dont have issues with humidity in the room because I have 160 gallons of saltwater aquariums set up in the same room.
So you are suggesting that I put the casing layer down and not put it into fruiting immediately. So many options it crazy. I think with the smaller tub I'm going to case it and put it into fruiting at the same time, but the 66 qt I'm going to do what you are suggesting and wait for a 1/3 to poke through before fruiting.
I also really need to prep some more WBS as I have more jars ready and need to get them spawned. I guess I have to go buy more tubs. sheesh! what a problem!
-------------------- So crucify the ego, before it's far too late To leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical, And you will come to find that we are all one mind Capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable. Just let the light touch you And let the words spill through And let them pass right through Bringing out our hope and reason ...

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dowtish
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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
#22259887 - 09/19/15 11:54 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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More jars ready


27qt tub. sorry for the bad pic. best I can do with the lid on

66qt tub
-------------------- So crucify the ego, before it's far too late To leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical, And you will come to find that we are all one mind Capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable. Just let the light touch you And let the words spill through And let them pass right through Bringing out our hope and reason ...

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dowtish
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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
#22268346 - 09/21/15 08:01 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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So I went ahead and cased the smaller tub last night as it is colonized quickly. While I had the lid off I took a pic.

After discussing with a friend I believe I am going to go ahead and put it into fruiting conditions tonight.
-------------------- So crucify the ego, before it's far too late To leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical, And you will come to find that we are all one mind Capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable. Just let the light touch you And let the words spill through And let them pass right through Bringing out our hope and reason ...

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dowtish
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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
#22273444 - 09/22/15 10:38 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Got home yesterday evening and and went to pull the tape off the small tub and decided to check out the bottom of the 66qt tub. It was definitely a 100%. So it got a 1/2" casing layer of CVG and put into fruiting as well.
I mounted my light and did not stack the tubs. I hooked up a small fan on low on the top shelf of the closet and pointed it up. I will be monitoring for the next few days to dial everything in.
Im fairly confident with my polyfill on the large tub, but the mini mono will be interesting since I did a different size holes on the bottom and small hole pattern on top.
Shit's getting real now!
-------------------- So crucify the ego, before it's far too late To leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical, And you will come to find that we are all one mind Capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable. Just let the light touch you And let the words spill through And let them pass right through Bringing out our hope and reason ...

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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
#22292216 - 09/26/15 08:32 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I am 5 days into fruiting conditions, but I also cased them, no pins yet.
I am slightly concerned with the smaller tub since I just drilled 5 small holes on the short sides up high with no poly. One side looks completely dry with no moisture. So I went ahead and taped up 3 out of 5 holes to see how it goes.
My other thought is fruiting in this small closet might not be the best for FAE, but the temp in there is perfect. I have my fan blowing up at the ceiling and its set up high on a shelf so I know its flowing well in there and is indirect. Im just wondering if I need more clearence on both long sides of the tubs for FAE to happen evenly.
Ive thought about pulling them out and just setting them on the kitchen table but am afraid one of my dogs will get to it, and I really have nowhere else for them to go.
I also know that since I cased it could easily be 10 days before I see pins, but I'm just wondering about my efforts on properly dialing in the tubs.
-------------------- So crucify the ego, before it's far too late To leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical, And you will come to find that we are all one mind Capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable. Just let the light touch you And let the words spill through And let them pass right through Bringing out our hope and reason ...

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Pastywhyte
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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
#22292264 - 09/26/15 08:52 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Depending on the airflow dynamics in a room 5 holes laid out in the pattern I designed will produce huge amounts of FAE. If you are running a fan shut it off, those designs are meant to be used without a fan. If you read my minimono writeup that.configuration is mean to be used with a casing. If you are not casing then taping 2-3 of the holes will be essential. Remove the tape only when the pinset is in.
Edit, disregard my comments on casing. Since you did case this should work nice for you. Keep up misting as needed
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dowtish
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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22292483 - 09/26/15 09:42 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: Depending on the airflow dynamics in a room 5 holes laid out in the pattern I designed will produce huge amounts of FAE. If you are running a fan shut it off, those designs are meant to be used without a fan. If you read my minimono writeup that.configuration is mean to be used with a casing. If you are not casing then taping 2-3 of the holes will be essential. Remove the tape only when the pinset is in.
Edit, disregard my comments on casing. Since you did case this should work nice for you. Keep up misting as needed 
Im going to leave the tape on for today and see how it looks tomorrow. I turned the fan back down to low.
I havent misted at all yet. Should I just mist the sides? or the casing as well? The myc is slowly creeping through in areas of the CVG casing now.
-------------------- So crucify the ego, before it's far too late To leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical, And you will come to find that we are all one mind Capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable. Just let the light touch you And let the words spill through And let them pass right through Bringing out our hope and reason ...

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Pastywhyte
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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
#22292686 - 09/26/15 10:20 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes mist when dry. Mist the substrate directly. Please ditch the fan, they are not needed with the hybrid holes and do more damage than good. Leave the closet open if your worried about FAE.
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dowtish
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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22295007 - 09/26/15 06:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: Yes mist when dry. Mist the substrate directly. Please ditch the fan, they are not needed with the hybrid holes and do more damage than good. Leave the closet open if your worried about FAE.
Only the small tub has the hybrid small holes drilled, the 66qt is drilled with a 1 1/2" hole with polyfill. It has much more condensation built up.

I cut off the fan for now.
The 27qt


both tubs

I also made a super mini with a single qt jar of a single strain. We'll see what happens. I dont plan on casing it. Should be 100% by tomorrow. Also got 6 jars ready for another 66qt. I think I'll use one for G2G though.
-------------------- So crucify the ego, before it's far too late To leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical, And you will come to find that we are all one mind Capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable. Just let the light touch you And let the words spill through And let them pass right through Bringing out our hope and reason ...

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Darkhome
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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
#22295042 - 09/26/15 06:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Definitely do G2G bro, once you get it down it's fast and a great way to increase your spawn...everytime I do a spawn run, I make 2 extra jars for G2G... Sometimes I drop a little leftover spawn onto some Agar for fun. G2G for the win!!!
-------------------- “The shaman is not merely a sick man, or a madman; he is a sick man who has healed himself.” ~Terence McKenna~ "NOTHING"...I post or say is "TRUE"...Any pictures are taken from the Web and any conversation is just research for a fictional character. That being said; He is constantly seeking knowledge and evolving.
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Pastywhyte
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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
#22295046 - 09/26/15 06:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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That all looks pretty good. Keep trucking
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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
#22295051 - 09/26/15 06:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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props on the NES
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dowtish
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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: newrook]
#22295427 - 09/26/15 07:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks everyone. Going to prep some WBS on Monday for G2G.
Love the old school NES, but such a pain now to get it to run on my old school TV. When I start playing it, I quickly realize I just dont have the time or patience I once had to keep trying to beat games like when I was a kid. hahaaha
-------------------- So crucify the ego, before it's far too late To leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical, And you will come to find that we are all one mind Capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable. Just let the light touch you And let the words spill through And let them pass right through Bringing out our hope and reason ...

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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
#22295440 - 09/26/15 07:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I consider Battletoads for the NES to be the most difficult game I ever wrapped (twice no cheats)
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