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dowtish
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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22230353 - 09/13/15 08:10 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: Mine is a no pour method. There are a few others like the grocery store agar tek or proffessor pinheads writeup. Essentially no pours are the same all that is different are the containers used. Maybe a few differences in lid configurations.
Gotcha. thanks.
So back to the question at hand. Do I follow Frank's bucket tek and just let it cool for 3 hours before mixing? I think so. It just seems so damn easy.
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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
#22230403 - 09/13/15 08:27 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yea, letting it cool for 3 hours is just to guarantee the coir isn't gonna cook the mycelium when its spawned. Since it's your first time, every hour or so just stick a thermometer in the expanded coir to check temperature. Id wait until its about 80-85f. Then you're safe to spawn.
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dowtish
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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: iSmkGrnBud]
#22230478 - 09/13/15 08:45 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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iSmkGrnBud said: Yea, letting it cool for 3 hours is just to guarantee the coir isn't gonna cook the mycelium when its spawned. Since it's your first time, every hour or so just stick a thermometer in the expanded coir to check temperature. Id wait until its about 80-85f. Then you're safe to spawn.
I figured it was more about the time sitting for 1-3 hours for the sterilization process. Because Frank then suggests letting it cool overnight or 12 hours after mixing before spawning. But I'm sure this is dependant on when you start. I like to do these things early and finish in the evening. Thanks
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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
#22230758 - 09/13/15 09:58 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Here's a really good detailed writeup on the bucket tek. I definitely suggest checking this out.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19907089
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dowtish
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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: NumeroEno]
#22231030 - 09/13/15 10:51 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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NumeroEno said: Here's a really good detailed writeup on the bucket tek. I definitely suggest checking this out.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19907089
Yeah, I read that one. Seems spot on. I like the bucket in bucket method to maintain the temp.
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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
#22231075 - 09/13/15 10:59 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mudas method is great for substrates that are not simple coir and verm
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dowtish
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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22233054 - 09/13/15 06:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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well that was fast. All but 4 jars of the original 12 are damn near 100%.
I am about to come up on a crazy work week and dont have time to prep more WBs right now. I have 6 more a week behind these that I can G2G off of later.
But Im realizing now that I have 2 quarts of Hawaiian that will need to be done with a mini-mono. CVG prep tomorrow evening!

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Edited by dowtish (09/13/15 06:13 PM)
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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22233797 - 09/13/15 07:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: Mudas method is great for substrates that are not simple coir and verm 
I'd love to make something like that work with hpoo and straw, because pasteurizing in jars is a PITA. I might try muda's method again, but I was also thinking about steam pasteurization.
Anyway OP everything's looking good! You seem to be picking this up quick. Keep us updated!
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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: NumeroEno]
#22233902 - 09/13/15 08:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks. I feel like the dialing in of one large tub and one mini will keep me on my toes. Hopefully things will be okay while Im gone to work. The room where the closet is that im using is where I keep my 2 saltwater aquariums and it stays humid as hell. Like right now its 65%. Im sure once the tubs are going that will go up even more.
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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
#22238322 - 09/14/15 07:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Started my bucket tek tonight. Had to use a calculator to figure out the percentages to prepare one 66 qt and one 27 qt. Had to wing it a bit on the amount of water and I hope Im ok as far as field capacity. *crossing fingers*
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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
#22243410 - 09/15/15 09:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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2 tubs are spawned! Sitting pretty stacked in the closet.
1 27qt mini with Hawaiian and 1 66qt mono with B+. 15 days after MS inoculation.
Im still running my TiT but with a lid on it now. So not really a tub in a tub but just a tub with some heat. Without it seems like the temp is 72 but with it a steady 76. Im going to keep my eye on the humidity in there.
Is there any reason to be concerned with too much humidity? because its been at close to 60% already.
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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
#22243460 - 09/15/15 09:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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You don't want high humidity where you colonize jars, it can compromise the filter. 72 f is what I colonize my jars in.
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dowtish
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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22243609 - 09/15/15 09:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: You don't want high humidity where you colonize jars, it can compromise the filter. 72 f is what I colonize my jars in.
What constitutes too high?
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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
#22243615 - 09/15/15 09:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hard to say. If its causing the filters to get damp its certainly a problem. For 4 degrees I wouldn't bother with a TIT.
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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22243690 - 09/15/15 10:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Looking good there dowtish.
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dowtish
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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: LustyLocks]
#22243775 - 09/15/15 10:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: Hard to say. If its causing the filters to get damp its certainly a problem. For 4 degrees I wouldn't bother with a TIT.
Gotcha. Ill probably remove it tomorrow.
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LustyLocks said: Looking good there dowtish.
Much thanks for the suggestions early on.
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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
#22252963 - 09/17/15 07:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Is it actually possible to use 2 aggressive quarts in a 27 qt mini mono and it be colonized in 3 days?
Im on 2 days and the entire top layer is white.
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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
#22253193 - 09/17/15 08:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes
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dowtish
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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: Mad Season]
#22253228 - 09/17/15 08:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I was kind of shocked to see it like that today. I guess I'll pit her into fruiting conditions tomorrow. Wait for a couple of pins and then case it.
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Re: First attempt ever. - Monotub with WBS-Coir Verm. [Re: dowtish]
#22253798 - 09/17/15 10:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Damn dowtish...that's a super aggressive culture you have there brother, I use 4 quarts for my 27 quart monos and it takes around a week to colonize. Be careful, sometimes if the spawn and substrate didn't get mixed well (I've made that mistake myself) the top will look colonized, but it won't be totally done. If you have doubts, post a pic, and some members can let you know for sure. It's your call, but I wouldn't wait for pins to case...normally you case at 100% colonization then put into Fruiting if it's CVG...if you are using Jiffy mix for casing...Case, let the casing layer colonize to about 30% then introduce into Fruiting conditions... I have an aggressive B+ culture that I put into Fruiting for a couple days then case with CVG... But do whatever works for you bro...YOU are the person that knows your culture the best. Either way Good Vibes! And
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Edited by Darkhome (09/17/15 10:45 PM)
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