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Re: People cough at me everywhere I go - PATM [Re: ShroomyJay]
    #22219768 - 09/11/15 01:30 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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As for your problem I seriously think it might be that unconscious telepathy shit. I myself have experienced something similar although not with people coughing but just a general vibe between me and other people that kind of freaks them out because they can "feel" me "feeling" them which in turn makes me uncomfortable too. I'm still trying to figure a way out to try and "control" my telepathic vibes; it seems to be much easier to do when your 100% sober. Which leads me to my next question; When you experience this "PATM" are you usually under the influence of something? And if so what if I may ask?





I only smoke weed nowadays, but as I said, if I take a break from smoking, things get worse. People seem to get even more irritated by my presence than on days when I have a smoke in the morning.

There's one guy especially on the opposite side of the room I work in with really strong reactions. His back faces me when he's sitting at his desk, about 25 ft away from me in a big room with high ceilings. In addition to coughing all day long, he also twitches. It's this weird neck twitch that he does whenever I look in his direction. Mind you, his back is turned to me, so he can't tell when I'm looking at him. I can see him at all times while I'm working, but as soon as I turn my head to look at him directly, his head twitches like he's trying to get rid of a fly or something. This only happens if I go to work without having smoked that morning. If I smoke, he doesn't twitch at all, and instead of coughing, he just repeatedly clears his throat all day long.

I work in a large room with six other people, all of whom cough, clear their throats, and sneeze all day long like they need to go to the hospital. I spend all day listening to this stuff at work, and then go home to listen to my neighbors cough and sneeze through the walls. My neighbors have stopped bringing their children into the courtyard to play because they often get coughing fits, sometimes really bad ones. They think it's caused by my pot smoking, even if my windows are closed. Yes, it works through glass and walls! And yes, I know it sounds crazy, but it's a fact of life for me.


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Re: People cough at me everywhere I go - PATM [Re: ShroomyJay]
    #22219808 - 09/11/15 01:44 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

As someone who has experienced psychosis  during a manic episode, this thread worries me.
I'm not going to say much more, because people normally don't like hearing that what they're experiencing in almost definitely in their head, but I think that regardless of what  conclusions you draw, you need to take care of yourself and be open minded enough to consider that your brain is an incredible organ capable of a lot of things(that often aren't fully realized until you're hearing 7 symphony orchestras playing everywhere you go  that are obvious hallucinations)and that you need to see a doctor if you start to experience genuine distress over this.


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Re: People cough at me everywhere I go - PATM [Re: pirate-blues]
    #22219815 - 09/11/15 01:46 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

If it's a hallucination, it's a mass hallucination. As I said, neighbors, coworkers, all aware of this, not just me...


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Re: People cough at me everywhere I go - PATM [Re: ShroomyJay]
    #22219832 - 09/11/15 01:54 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Hallucination is not the proper term. Delusion is. And that involves a change in your perception, not necessarily reality itself.
The fact that you don't think it's a mass conspiracy or some weird gang stalking technique designed to drive you insane is probably a good sign though,if you want to see how sad it can get for some people all you have to do is google gangstalking and see the networks of very clearly ill people meticulously documenting the terrifying stuff that is going on in their head.

I'm just saying that it's important to be aware of what's going on or possibly going on in your brain, or at the very least, avoid letting it distress or worry you or whatever.


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Re: People cough at me everywhere I go - PATM [Re: pirate-blues]
    #22219842 - 09/11/15 01:57 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

pirate-blues, sorry, but you really don't know anything about what I'm describing. Trust me. Do a search on google, read up on this experience from thousands of other victims worldwide, then come back and tell me they're all suffering from the exact same delusion.


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Re: People cough at me everywhere I go - PATM [Re: ShroomyJay]
    #22219849 - 09/11/15 02:01 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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336 said:

Did all this start before or after you started experimenting with psychedelics?





Haven't done psychedelics since 2009. I've been aware of this happening for only a year or so.


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Re: People cough at me everywhere I go - PATM [Re: ShroomyJay]
    #22219851 - 09/11/15 02:02 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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ShroomyJay said:
pirate-blues, sorry, but you really don't know anything about what I'm describing. Trust me. Do a search on google, read up on this experience from thousands of other victims worldwide, then come back and tell me they're all suffering from the exact same delusion.






Yeah, that's the response I figured I'd get.
Good luck.


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Re: People cough at me everywhere I go - PATM [Re: pirate-blues]
    #22219853 - 09/11/15 02:03 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Dude, why don't you do what I suggested instead of making assumptions.


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Re: People cough at me everywhere I go - PATM [Re: ShroomyJay]
    #22219912 - 09/11/15 02:49 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

No. But I'm sure it was already happening for a while by the time I noticed it. If you read other people's accounts, you'll see this all started happening around 2006 worldwide.

For those interested here is the link to medhelp.org's page on PATM, with the very first post from 2007:

http://www.medhelp.org/posts/People-Allergic-to-Me-PATM/People-Are-Allergic-To-Me-PATM/show/4415?page=1


There are now 46 pages worth of replies from other victims, all of whom describe the exact same things I'm describing here, with posts going up almost daily. Information is knowledge, even if it doesn't make any fucking sense. The world is a much stranger place than most of you seem to care to realize.


Edited by ShroomyJay (09/11/15 02:50 AM)


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Re: People cough at me everywhere I go - PATM [Re: ShroomyJay]
    #22219920 - 09/11/15 02:51 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

There's something called Kundalini syndrome which could be involved, but I really don't know.


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Re: People cough at me everywhere I go - PATM [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #22219921 - 09/11/15 02:51 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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InfiniteToker said:
dude people are just messy, that's it.  you are reading too much into it brotha.




That's kinda what I think

I've never even heard of PATM (People Are Allergic To Me) before I saw this thread

Clearly it is a thing though or at least a Google search seems to indicate that it is



I googled it as well. I still can't really tell if this is just a meme like thing or some medically documented phenomenon. I mean the research points to the latter, but a lot of The Onions shit looks legit at first too.

:sad: I've even been the victim of proudly posting one of their articles thinking it was legit (not here). Was embarrassing as fuck :lol: Fuck you Onion! In my defense, it wasn't as outlandish as most. I don't remember what it was though.


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With my face against the floor I can’t see who knocked me out of the way.
I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


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Re: People cough at me everywhere I go - PATM [Re: ShroomyJay]
    #22219934 - 09/11/15 02:57 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

It's a meme because nobody has identified the cause. It could turn out to be a new virus, at which point they'll obviously give it a real scientific name.


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Re: People cough at me everywhere I go - PATM [Re: ShroomyJay]
    #22219937 - 09/11/15 03:00 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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336 said:
Hmm. I'll have to look into that. Does it happen around your family members too?




No it doesn't.


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Re: People cough at me everywhere I go - PATM [Re: ShroomyJay]
    #22219951 - 09/11/15 03:09 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm willing to bet your a spiritual person yeah? You ever have supernatural experiences like coming into contact with "spirits" whether on psychedelics or off them?




Yes to the first question, no to the second. Never seen ghosts or entities, but I also haven't done DMT, so...


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Re: People cough at me everywhere I go - PATM [Re: ShroomyJay]
    #22219984 - 09/11/15 03:34 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

No. No entities in any way shape or form.

Why? You think there's malevolent spirits following me around attacking people's throats? There's only one other PATM sufferer on that entire 46-page thread who ever entertained that notion... not me, but until someone officially says "It's this..." I don't know what to believe.


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Re: People cough at me everywhere I go - PATM [Re: ShroomyJay]
    #22219997 - 09/11/15 03:37 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I still find it hard to believe this is real. I mean that's up there in the realm of disbelief that Onion articles or trolling live in.

How would that even work? You can't just be putting off allergens, because many people out there are not susceptible to allergens (thank god I'm one).


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With my face against the floor I can’t see who knocked me out of the way.
I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


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Re: People cough at me everywhere I go - PATM [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22220053 - 09/11/15 04:06 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Shroomslip, why don't you check out the medhelp.org link I put up. There are now over 9000 replies to that initial post in 2007. Whatever this is, it's real and it's BIG, whether you believe it or not.


Edited by ShroomyJay (09/11/15 04:09 AM)


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Re: People cough at me everywhere I go - PATM [Re: ShroomyJay]
    #22220058 - 09/11/15 04:11 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I can't think of how to properly phrase, I'm not doubting you per se, but I dunno, it's just weird as hell. It's so damn abnormal and crazy I really can't imagine how it could even be a possibility. I'm not a medical expert, but I'm not ignorant of it either. That's probably not really doing much more to convey what I'm trying to say though.


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With my face against the floor I can’t see who knocked me out of the way.
I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


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Re: People cough at me everywhere I go - PATM [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22220067 - 09/11/15 04:21 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Shroomslip, I'm not accusing you of doubting me. I'm accusing you of not realizing that regardless of what you choose to believe, the truth is still out there. The truth doesn't care whether or not you believe. Neither do I, no offense...

I'm just saying check out the link for yourself and have an informed opinion.


Edited by ShroomyJay (09/11/15 04:22 AM)


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Re: People cough at me everywhere I go - PATM [Re: ShroomyJay]
    #22220082 - 09/11/15 04:34 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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it's real and it's BIG, whether you believe it or not.



:gooby:


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