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Datura inoxia, a drug made out of pure crazy
    #22218213 - 09/10/15 06:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

EDIT: I am an advocate for harm reduction. I believe that drugs are a wonderful thing, however one must understand that not all substances are suitable for human consumption, and can be very dangerous to one's health. Datura is a VERY dangerous and unpredictable substance, with doses being impossible to determine. Many cases of hospitalization and even death have been recorded. I do NOT condone, approve of or suggest taking datura. I took a gigantic leap of faith, and I am lucky, to say the least, to have made it out alright.

Hello, humble people of shroomery!

A friend of mine, let's call him J, has an Inoxia plant growing in his garden. Him, being unacquainted to deliriants and natural drugs for the most part, never took much notice to the plant, however I most certainly did. I started doing research on how to determine dosage, but it was useless, it's impossible to determine. So, I decided not to tempt fate too much, and after extensive argument with J, I decided to make a soup with two 0.5 gram leaves, 2 seeds and 1 flower. The taste was okay, just a normal vegetable soup. The flower had a very pleasant smell, can't tell you what smell it reminds me of.

J was tripsitting me for the Datura trip. I was writing down my experiences.

T + 00:00 (approx. 1300)
I eat the soup, pop a vitamin C tablet and sit down in my usual tripping spot, a spot on the floor where I've had my first mushroom trip. J is sitting on my bed, listening to music on my speakers. The TV is on, with no sound on, playing some cartoons from Cartoon Network.

T + 00:30
Nothing seems to have changed too much. So far there are no changes to the auditory, only a very (!) subtle change in my visionary experience. My mind is in a calm state, same as before. Much different to what I'm used to (excluding Nutmeg), with a very distinct lack of a buildup. There's no nausea, no uneasiness of any kind. No pupil dilation to be seen. Everything, so far, feels and sounds the same as before. Writing isn't difficult.

T+ 01:00
Visual effects similar to that of a light THC high. Hardly noticeable, it keeps fading in and out. Me and J are talking the entire time, no difficulty in speech, still in a calm state of mind, barely anything has changed. Pupil dilation is still not present. Writing isn't difficult.

Stays the same for the next 2 hours.

T+ 03:00
I get up to go grab a drink of water from my kitchen, which is just down the hall. I appear to walk for a very long time before I end up getting there. Walking doesn't feel more difficult than it usually is, it just seems as if the room is stretching outwards from me. I find this quite amusing and start laughing quite a bit. I eventually reach my kitchen, grab myself a glass of water, and trek on back towards my room. The water is colder than usual. I can't completely explain this one, it just seemed as if my water dispenser cooled the water much colder than it usually is. Visual effects still the same as before, maybe a bit more obvious. The vision change is fading in and out at a slower pace. So far, a pleasant experience. Pupil dilation a bit more obvious at this point. I've still got my head about me, and talking isn't any more difficult than before. My handwriting is slightly off, it feels like I have little control over my pencil, though it's still legible.

T+ 04:00
I black out for maybe 10 seconds (according to J). I see J sitting next to me, and get confused as to why he's there. I ask him that. He tells me "I'm sitting you on Datura mate". I get more confused, I have no recollection of taking Datura at all. I'm having trouble remembering anything prior to the short blackout. I read into my journal I'm taking, and I see that I've taken datura. I start comprehending my situation, and relax again. Visual effects similar to that of a light LSD dose. Mentally, I am calm, although I have some nonsensical thoughts, and some "existential" ones. For example, I am contemplating what I'm currently doing with my life, and what I do for the people around me, my physical health, and the list goes on. Pupil dilation very apparent at this point. Writing gets slurred, resembling my drunken handwriting. There's a fair bit of nonsense on that page, random words thrown about. J tells me when I sobered up that I had a fine, lengthy conversation with him, however I have no recollection of even moving my mouth. To J, everything seems as it was before. I'm still holding a completely normal conversation with him.

The conversation stretches over a few hours. I hardly move a muscle during the entire conversation. Racing thoughts continue throughout. I am not afraid, however. Still in a very calm, collected state.

T+ 09:00
Visual effects in full swing. Imagine a high Psilocybin trip. J gets tired, he tells me to wake him up if I need anything. He goes to sleep. Thoughts are coming in and out of my head at light speed. I try to stand up, but find that I'm unable to move a single muscle. I've had similar experiences on high-dose LSD trips. J tells me that I started talking to him, but he continued sleeping because it was trip nonsense. I don't have a recollection of even moving my mouth. Breathing is no issue, I can move my head normally. Arms and Legs feel frozen in place, though I am still writing. It feels as if I'm not controlling my arm at all, while it's moving. Suddenly, all altered experiences stop. My vision, hearing, everything returns back to normal. It feels like I just woke up from a dream. Arms and legs move as they should, I can control my mouth now. It's as if I've sobered up 100%. Then, just as suddenly, an out of body experience. I see myself sitting there on my floor, and the "camera" panning across the room, entering my hallway, and going into my garden. And, again, just as suddenly, I snap out of it and I find myself actually standing in the garden. I have 0 recollection of ever standing up, yet alone walking out of my house. The gates are locked, however, and J has hidden the key, so I had 0 chance of exiting my garden.

The trip seems to be a sort of dream-like thing. I'm unsure of which parts are real, and which parts are my trip. I've read reports where users have actually been sleeping the entire time, as reported by their sitters. It's a very interesting experience. I actually started playing with it a bit, where I'd imagine a scenario and had it occur to me. I imagined my favourite dreams, and had them happen in front of my eyes. Then, again, my trip ended. However, visual effects were still in full swing. Racing thoughts consistent, I'm back in my room now. Outside of a written entry in my journal, I have no recollection of my visit to the garden. Datura seems to make you lose short-term memory.

The experiences keep looping, with the dream-like sequences, normal trip sequences, and apparent sobriety for the majority of the trip.

T+ 17:00
I was stuck in that loop for many hours, according to my journal I wrote down. It was a never-ending loop. Visual experience hasn't changed in the slightest, during my tripping moments I am unable to move my body, and I have no idea whether or not I'm talking or not. The dream sequences were usually out of body experiences that led to me travelling somewhere. I am experiencing none of the usually reported bad experiences, like dementia. Though, heavy ego trip was occuring, and I can see why someone would consider Ego death that significant to be a negative experience.

Suddenly, at the 17 hour mark, my trip stops for several hours. I am starting to recollect everything that happened. Pupil dilation, according to J, is still present however. My mouth feels like cotton, and I suddenly realize I haven't had a drink in about 16 hours. I attempt to walk into my kitchen, when I fall through the floor at around the 19 hour mark.

After this point, most of the trip is a blur, and I haven't written anything down.

An intense drug, I can see why it would be a negative experience for some people. I personally had a revelation of sorts, and I believe I have changed in some way, though I'm still in the heavily contemplative phases. I think the Datura gave me a heavy fever afterwards (39.9 being the highest recorded temperature). I also vomitted and felt ill, however my condition is improving.

I think datura isn't a drug anyone should take. While my trip was fine, there're countless instances of trips going awry, with people getting hospitalized, and worse. In fact, deliriants in general should be a class of drugs that go untouched, as they are very heavy and intense on your psyche.

I had a VERY fun trip, one of the funnest I've ever had. Might be pure luck, or something, but there it is. I don't plan on doing datura again, because I consider myself lucky. For all I know, my next Datura trip might be a hospitalization for me, as is often the case. At this current point in time, I'm unsure of whether or not I'm actually still tripping or not. I might be in a coma right now, living my life through. But hey, reality seems real currently, so whatever :trippinbawelz:

Trip safe, trip responsibly..

-Sen :awesomenod:


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Re: Datura inoxia, a drug made out of pure crazy [Re: Sensanaty] * 1
    #22218232 - 09/10/15 06:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Datura inoxia, a drug made out of pure crazy [Re: Sensanaty] * 1
    #22218288 - 09/10/15 07:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So after determining its impossible to dose Datura you still ate tons of Datura?
If you tripped for 17 hours I'm inclined to think you took a MASSIVE dose since scopolamine has a half life of 4.5 hours. But your trip report sounds very very tame for a large Datura dose.

Anyway that wasn't a smart idea I'm going to suggest you don't play with fire anymore because that could have sooo easily gone bad.

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Re: Datura inoxia, a drug made out of pure crazy [Re: Zombi3]
    #22218303 - 09/10/15 07:11 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Zombi3 said:
Anyway that wasn't a smart idea I'm going to suggest you don't play with fire anymore because that could have sooo easily gone bad.





Fully aware, note my edit. I took a gargantuan risk, and I've received negative comments and feedback from a huge number of sources for it, and I agree with the criticism. I was playing with more than just fire, I was playing with my life at that point. It was really stupid. Plain, good old stupid.

Quote:

Post a picture of the plant?



Will do as soon as I can!


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Re: Datura inoxia, a drug made out of pure crazy [Re: Sensanaty] * 1
    #22218318 - 09/10/15 07:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I grow Datura inoxia, stramonium, wrightii, and ceratocaula.
As well as Beugmansia so I'm very interested in seeing pictures!
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Re: Datura inoxia, a drug made out of pure crazy [Re: Zombi3]
    #22467306 - 11/02/15 04:28 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I only come here a few times a year to check new datura threads. Ive used shit loads of datura and don't see the point in posting disclaimers or warnings about it. Because the way I found it was by chance and I just assumed it was an entheogen when I harvested a ridiculous amount and have had several if not at least a dozen binges on it.

I haven't used in about a year coz I had some responsibility to my clientele but that's final.

There's about 300 seeds left from a miniature harvest I did a lil while ago when I sat for this dude who lost it big time. I told him not to eat too much. But when I saw how much he had It was about 5 or 6 times the amount I told him was safe. At least a thousand seeds... I sat with him for an excruciating 18 hours and left when he had come down a bit. I'll never do it again though coz after I left he went out and got himself hospitalised and the most he could relay of the trip isn't worth repeating here unless you like hearing about failed results.

I do practice harm minimilisation by either staying inside or at least not leaving the yard. But on bigger doses of 200 plus seeds I go out into the bush. About an hours walk from the nearest road. I got some good power locations on hills and by the river so I can trip for days like this. Just need to take a lot of weed and these days I like to smoke some meth beforehand...

Bush tripping has its advantages over the burbs because you see the landscapes and trees transform into people and animals. The devil is definitely in the detail.

As reverie as this might sound. I've been sanctioned by some high sources use of this mad shit. If I take the correct precausions ie going to my power locations and remaining for the duration. I only have fucking rad shit happen.

I even saw that doge meme once as a flying basketball like thingy. And it was before it had even started getting the attention it did.

But anyway dude. All I want to say to you now is. Harvest in autumn is when I find the best specimens. But it can be found almost year round if you know where to look. I took a family portrait of a baby one a maturing one a fully mature one and a dead one all in the one photo... but keep it until summer and find some power locations. I like to be up high on a hill where I can't see or hear anything cultural. That's where crazy portals can open up...

One thing I should say is. From my experience. After about a week or two of dosing every second or third day. I accidently summoned giant insects out if nowhere. And they were definitely real. That's the thing people either don't know or don't want you to know. A good portion of what happens is actually real. Took me some time to understand. And although its fucking metaphysical in a major way. Doesn't mean Im not actualy a tree or even a forest that somehow incarnated into this form. Probably to propagate nonsence and deliver syntacticle jibberish on the regular...

Shits real mang. Know it. Fuck everyone who has your better intentions at heart. They don't know your the fucking master!


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Re: Datura inoxia, a drug made out of pure crazy [Re: aVe]
    #22467359 - 11/02/15 04:41 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I stayed awake for a full lunar cycle a couple years back because I did it right. And every time I passed out I was fully aware and lucid so it was like no one could fuck with me. Every time I would wake up I found I hadn't been dreaming at all and it was all so real. I shouldn't even be posting this shit coz it can be a hinderence to re achieve after you shoot a shotgun into a bunch of psilli heads.

There's this song by manu choa that translates the very thing I'm talking about. Gotta love the Spanish.

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Re: Datura inoxia, a drug made out of pure crazy [Re: aVe]
    #22467416 - 11/02/15 04:58 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Datura inoxia, a drug made out of pure crazy [Re: aVe]
    #22467624 - 11/02/15 05:47 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

:lolwut::scumbagsteve::whateveryousayfreak:youre fucked up bro

plus wtf youre fucking horrible, giving that amount of datura seed to someone, fuckin a thousand seeds ?? you could of killed him really fuckin easily or make him retard for life, the worst is you obviously did this all without truly informing him...if you would of killed him to me it would be plain and simple homicide. life prison or like death sentence. what the hell man :facepalm:


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Re: Datura inoxia, a drug made out of pure crazy [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
    #22468122 - 11/02/15 07:29 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Give a fuck! He deserved it. I told him what to do but he's junky greedy in stinks took over. And you've obviously got no fucking idea what the LD 50 of datura is. No ones ever died from overdose. Why the fucks it legal. I think everyone who has a disclaimer to a short boring story has no fucking idea. Eat shit and die maggot. Datura doesn't kill people. Dumb fucks interfere


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Re: Datura inoxia, a drug made out of pure crazy [Re: aVe] * 1
    #22469553 - 11/03/15 05:02 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Get the fuck outta here. you definitly didnt tell him before giving him the seeds. youre a fuckin asshole that deserve jail plus youre dumb as fuck. you deserve to stay mentaly retarded from the datura

no one dies from datura??? what the FUCK are you talking about??!!!.. lots of people have died from datura OD, you uneducated FUCK. its always been use as a poison throught out history. and still nowadays it kills people

did you know that acetone is legal. but you can still kill yourself with it???ITS NOT LEGAL BECAUSE ITS SAFE YOU FUCKTARD

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Re: Datura inoxia, a drug made out of pure crazy [Re: aVe]
    #22469565 - 11/03/15 05:09 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Datura stramonium is the world's worst dope to quote an ancient High times article on it.
I'm wondering how many people here have actually tried it?
Found it. Grew it. Tried it. Enough said. If you like feeling poisoned then proceed. D.innoxia only tried the seeds once. It didn't seem as poisonous in effect. D.ferox actually seemed okay. I would put a couple of leaves in my Oolong tea and let it steep for a while. It is mild for Datura. Would get closed eye visuals.
The white flowered Brugmansia held me under its spell. I would boil 2 flowers until the water looked the colour of Scotch. Was like being drunk with a deliriant element added.
I found the leaves off D.stramonium smoked were too weak. Eaten they taste disgusting with less effect than the seeds. The seeds I used to grind up in a mortar and pestle.
Highest dosage after enjoying the heat off 48 seeds was 96.
The dry heat was intense. Not at all like the heat generated from exercise which has an element of moisture.
Very unpleasant along with nightmarish visions. An old hag in my vision wouldn't go away. I thought she was my death coming to collect me.
Pissing afterwards was really difficult. For 3 days after I had trouble lifting things. I am a very active person with a lot of energy. I agree with Castaneda that she is a dangerous ally.
I made ointment and rubbed it on my body. I didn't get out of it as much as disoriented.
One time after putting the ointment on I found myself walking around in the local bush naked.
I couldn't find my clothes. It was night and I had no torch.
I ended up walking home naked. My clothes were in my bedroom the whole time where I had left them.


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Re: Datura inoxia, a drug made out of pure crazy [Re: Heyowana]
    #22470120 - 11/03/15 09:10 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I really dont care if someone try it. In the end if youre dumb enough and dont know youre shit ,natural selection will make his way. What pisses me off is people like ave saying its safe you cant die off it ,takes datura without any info on it ,talks about like its safe as any psych, and the worst recklessly give huge amounts of those seed to someone without informing him.

To me thats pure evil. The dude deserve death

Ive trip sit my cousin on a whole plant tea .at the time we were thinking it was like cactus Story in brief it was horrible seeing him like that seemed terrorized smoking ghost cigs , when he realise that he had no cig, looking everywhere to find his smoke.after 14 hrs had to bring him to the hospital because he couldnt piss . Told me he never been the same since..

edit: the dude who gave us the plant told us it was like cacti. right there its because of someone like aVe that my cousin did it. risked his life and paid the price because of an asshole like aVe


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Re: Datura inoxia, a drug made out of pure crazy [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
    #22478352 - 11/04/15 08:58 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

LOL guys aVe is a puppet and he's just trolling while high on dxm

Nobody gave anybody 1000 datura seeds


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Re: Datura inoxia, a drug made out of pure crazy [Re: Zombi3]
    #22482756 - 11/05/15 07:45 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I have heard that generally the atropina deleriants aren't safe because the dosage really is difficult to administer. you need an extremely accurate scale and even then...

I'm not sure if i would try it either. I have been curious about low doses but once again they can be hard to have because you'd have to extract pure alkaloid from the plant matter and weigh it with an accurate scale.

Either way, these types of substances don't sound that interesting that i would risk this. I will however say that some of the positive experiences really do sound interesting but i just have an aversion to taking the risk lol. i'm probably not going to take this, ever. not saying i absolutely won't ever, just that i'm 99% sure i wouldn't.


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Re: Datura inoxia, a drug made out of pure crazy [Re: Sensanaty]
    #25462925 - 09/15/18 08:10 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

I've experienced such hallucinations on a heroic dose of diphenhydramine. This is when I was a teenager before I was actually in my head. Wich is where lsd put me. But my deleriant experiences we're pretty nuts. Almost what all you describe. I pretty much overdosed dph and waiting for the supposed hallucinations. They were absent for quite a while. I had a friend sitting me. He left to get some poontang and he told me that. And apparently I understood. After that I looked out my window and back in the house and saw a random guy from the street like phased into my wooden walls, but he slipped back in. Then I glanced to the kitchen and saw a shadow wearing a fidora who was as tall as my cieling. I try to collect myself and I glanced back and he is closer, now being in the dining room just standing there. Then after what seemed like an abrupt blackout my trip sitter pans in to my vision and he's rolling a cig in is fingers and speaking to me in mumbling jumbles. I looked down and said this is some crazy shit Dave. I look back up and Dave is gonna and my mom is sitting next to me yelling stop fuckin calling me Dave. Apparently the real Dave had been gone for some time. So yeah. Deleriants are interesting but leave you defenseless to yourself. And the side effects are pretty nasty. But some people don't mind em. If I were to try datura seeds or inoxia flower, I'd have to be straight jacketed lol.


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Re: Datura inoxia, a drug made out of pure crazy [Re: Dirty hippie 5000]
    #25462931 - 09/15/18 08:14 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Pissing is a problem with deleriants such as that. I'm sure seeing your dick shrivel to a tic tac and feeling a giant ball block your piss hole isn't enjoyed on any scale. But it can be pretty funny drinking from what you think is a cup but is actually air and there was no cup ever. Great stuff.


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Re: Datura inoxia, a drug made out of pure crazy [Re: Dirty hippie 5000]
    #25463643 - 09/16/18 06:30 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

That sounds like eating to many ambien an staying up.


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Re: Datura inoxia, a drug made out of pure crazy [Re: Nimph]
    #25464970 - 09/16/18 04:11 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

If by too many ambien, you actually mean WAY too many ambien. I've found ambien to be quite psychedelic in certain set and setting. But after the fun there's the scary lol. People with cerebral palsy and shit if they take ambien depending on dosage, it actually increases brain acuity and recovery of dead brain cells. Even bad things like deleriants can have good uses.In almost the same way as daturas dreaded scoplamine being a precursor to the famous diphenhydramine(Benadryl) and dimenhydrinate(Dramamine).


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Re: Datura inoxia, a drug made out of pure crazy [Re: Dirty hippie 5000] * 1
    #25468533 - 09/17/18 10:24 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

None of these trip stories sound any fun at all just fucked up for the sake of being fucked up....


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Re: Datura inoxia, a drug made out of pure crazy [Re: TheUltimateBohab]
    #25468714 - 09/18/18 01:13 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Oh yeah theyre the hallucinations in Wich the brain can not declare whether it's fake or real. And that's always scary. Unlike with psychedelics where you can see a bunch of shit and know it's drug induced and simply choose to overendulge. Deleriants can be scary shit. With pure scoplamine you could blow it in somebody's face and take full advantage, and fully convince them with little effort. It's basically immediate onset Alzheimer's and dementia combined. Wich can last indefinitely.
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Re: Datura inoxia, a drug made out of pure crazy [Re: Dirty hippie 5000]
    #25468727 - 09/18/18 01:30 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

How many think the cia use that on people?

Is there any possibility of resistanting it an fighting for control? Or another drug to block it? Or one to create a cross tolerance so your partiality immune?


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