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Invisibleplura16
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Re: cakes dont do it for me anymore, what to try next? [Re: TRS]
    #2221955 - 01/05/04 11:36 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

fat ass pin on that last pic. woot


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Re: cakes dont do it for me anymore, what to try next? [Re: TRS]
    #2221968 - 01/05/04 11:42 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

the poo dont stink at all. It will smell like a bunck of shrooms growing (heaven) but if you dont have the cover off looking right at them you wont even notice the smell. Trust me once you do that you will never go back to cakes.

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Re: cakes dont do it for me anymore, what to try next? [Re: plura16]
    #2221970 - 01/05/04 11:44 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

^^ that was as big as it got :frown:.  if you look at the pic with the three cakes in it youll notice pins on the cake on the left :smile:.  i made the pic small because there is an upload limit here but its still noticable

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Re: cakes dont do it for me anymore, what to try next? [Re: TRS]
    #2221977 - 01/05/04 11:48 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

may be of benefit to crumble the cakes and let mend in a smal container.. like maybe 3 cakes into a flatcake -- they seem to do a lot better

it will take more time tho of course for it to heal.

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Re: cakes dont do it for me anymore, what to try next? [Re: TRS]
    #2221983 - 01/05/04 11:52 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

well in that case shroomy girl i might just do that, only id put a container in there with the poo inside that and lower the humidity and keep the air pump on, that way i dont have to mess with it too much because like i said earlier, people are around all the time. so how exactly do i go about spawning to poo, what do i spawn with, and where can i get hold of some decent poo?

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Re: cakes dont do it for me anymore, what to try next? [Re: TRS]
    #2222008 - 01/06/04 12:13 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

go to a farm and ask for composted horse or cow poo then pasturize and all of that good stuff its all in the faq's

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Re: cakes dont do it for me anymore, what to try next? [Re: TRS]
    #2222324 - 01/06/04 03:51 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

right on shroomy.

this may help answer a few of your spawn / bulk questions

http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/3282

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Re: cakes dont do it for me anymore, what to try next? [Re: plura16]
    #2222373 - 01/06/04 05:29 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

thanks for the info. does anyone see any problems with my current setup or have and suggestions as to why my yields are so low?

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Re: cakes dont do it for me anymore, what to try next? [Re: TRS]
    #2222377 - 01/06/04 05:33 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

some strains do better on cakes than others,the same is true for all methods except maybe poo,all strains seem to do well in poo.
so maybe get another strain to work with or switch to casings/bulk.


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Re: cakes dont do it for me anymore, what to try next? [Re: TRS]
    #2222409 - 01/06/04 06:24 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Before to fruit ur cake , u should dunk it , then crumble the cake before case it ( with want u want : straight verm works great for the beginners my friend was ) .
Your cakes seem really dry on the pics !


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Re: cakes dont do it for me anymore, what to try next? [Re: TRS]
    #2222505 - 01/06/04 08:14 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

I've had cakes go that bad before and when they did it was always for one of two reasons:

- not enough air circulation
- not enough humidity

Make sure your air bubblers are working correctly and be sure to check your water levels often. My PMP goes through a lot of water just through evaporation.

Also, make sure you're getting good air exchange through your PMP. If you have too much CO2 in there you can get some severely stunted growth.

Also, I'd switch to another strain personally. I've had a lot of success lately with Golden Teacher and B+ - both of which are supposed to be easier to grow than your koh samui.

Oh, and as for light... Shrooms contain no chloryphll, and hence don't need light for growth. What they do need light for is to know when to pin. For this reason you really barely need any light at all. It's been shown that less than a second of light a day will make the shroomies pin. That being said, I keep mine in regular sunlight/room lights so they generally follow a 12/12 cycle. Just make sure your light isn't heating up the PMP too much and that it's not screwing with your humidity.

Finally, I would get a cheapie hydrometer, just to make sure your humidity is in the right area. My first PMP setup had a bit of a non-obvious issue with it that kept the humidity from ever going above 60% - I would have never known that without the hydrometer.


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Re: cakes dont do it for me anymore, what to try next? [Re: TRS]
    #2237946 - 01/12/04 09:07 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

When you dunk them in the jars are you cold shocking as well? You might try to use a new substrate, like 2 parts verm, 1 part water, 1 part hulled millet, and 1 part BRF. I try top dunk for about 18 hours, a good in between. Try those things, it has helped me dramatically. theres alot of good posts on that substrate mix, but i would give it a try. good luck!

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Re: cakes dont do it for me anymore, what to try next? [Re: KreeprCeepr]
    #2238205 - 01/12/04 11:30 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

yeah, you said youre dunking, but are you cold-shocking and rolling too?

i know magash quotes that 12/12 thing, but i might just try doing less light in case that light is contributing at all to the low yield. how many watts is that light anyway?


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