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cakes dont do it for me anymore, what to try next?
    #2221809 - 01/06/04 12:31 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

i get low yields with cakes (1 dry gram per flush) and want to go a step higher. i dont know what to try next. it has to be fairly easy and not too much maintenance involved. at the moment i only have a 40cm X 80cm X 50cm space which has my PMP in it. what do you guys recommend?


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Re: cakes dont do it for me anymore, what to try next? [Re: TRS]
    #2221820 - 01/06/04 12:35 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Are you getting 1 g per cake or for a batch?


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Re: cakes dont do it for me anymore, what to try next? [Re: TRS]
    #2221821 - 01/06/04 12:35 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

case your cakes! 1 dry gram per flush is really really crappy. casing will definitly increase yeilds if done correctly. also think about upgrading your fruiting chamber.


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Re: cakes dont do it for me anymore, what to try next? [Re: amyloid]
    #2221826 - 01/06/04 12:37 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

yea id case or look into making logs, which u can case too.. id say case cuz u will get more.


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Re: cakes dont do it for me anymore, what to try next? [Re: TRS]
    #2221843 - 01/06/04 12:46 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I would pasturize some poo and spawn it with your cakes them case it. You can patch for an even pinset and the mushies will be bigger and more potent. Its way better to spawn poo. Its what they love so give it to them.


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Re: cakes dont do it for me anymore, what to try next? [Re: shroomygirl]
    #2221861 - 01/06/04 12:53 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

its 1 gram per cake per flush. ive had bad experiances with casing so im a little hesitant to try that aswell. ill take a picture/s of my setup and post it for some input.


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Re: cakes dont do it for me anymore, what to try next? [Re: TRS]
    #2221866 - 01/06/04 12:55 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

id check ur temp and humidity if ur only gettin 1 g. Somethings gotta be wrong. And if done right casing can be amazing. It will usually drop the number of flushes but its quite worth it


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Re: cakes dont do it for me anymore, what to try next? [Re: TRS]
    #2221881 - 01/06/04 01:03 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

case those cakes.
here's 4 half pint jars of florida coast cased with straight coco-coir.



27 grams dry 1st flush.


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Re: cakes dont do it for me anymore, what to try next? [Re: Hanky]
    #2221887 - 01/06/04 01:07 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

damn hanky your the man


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Re: cakes dont do it for me anymore, what to try next? [Re: TRS]
    #2221915 - 01/06/04 01:20 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

here are some pictures or my setup.

the first is where i have my pmp.
the second is the hole (more or a gap) for air exchange, its on both sides.
the third is inside.
the fourth is my previous flush with one of those cakes in the pmp.

in the first pic you can see on the back there is a black circle. its a hole (for air circulation) with material over it to keep out contams and light. i was actually thinking that there is probably poor air circulation so i was going to add a tube from the intake on the air pump going straight to one of the balck holes to bring in some fresher air into the pmp. apart from that is there anything else i should change? if more pics are needed just let me know and ill snap some more.










so what other things can i do apart from cakes/casings with the amount of space i have available?


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Re: cakes dont do it for me anymore, what to try next? [Re: TRS]
    #2221921 - 01/06/04 01:22 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

wtf that looks bad.. whats ur temps and humidity?


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Re: cakes dont do it for me anymore, what to try next? [Re: TRS]
    #2221922 - 01/06/04 01:23 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

also, temps atm are roughly 80-85f with light on a timer 12/12


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Re: cakes dont do it for me anymore, what to try next? [Re: TRS]
    #2221924 - 01/06/04 01:25 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

with that much space you can fill that container you have with spawned poo and fan it and get a dry quarter maybe a half pound depending how deep you have the substrate and how well you patch the casing layer but thats what I would do


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    #2221925 - 01/06/04 01:25 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

try less light and more humidity. id say at most 2 or 3 hours of light and get a bottle that can spray a fine mist.. see if that solves the prob


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Re: cakes dont do it for me anymore, what to try next? [Re: TRS]
    #2221927 - 01/06/04 01:26 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

im not sure about humidity, i was told not to bother with a hygrometer when i first started so i didnt get one. what exactly looks bad about it?


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Re: cakes dont do it for me anymore, what to try next? [Re: Yarry]
    #2221937 - 01/06/04 01:29 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

yarry I dont mean to be a bitch but please dont tell him what to do you have never grown. He has plenty of humidity and if you say his set up you would know he has geolite with a bubbler stone or something like that humidifying it and giving it air exchange


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Re: cakes dont do it for me anymore, what to try next? [Re: TRS]
    #2221940 - 01/06/04 01:31 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

1 gram dry is an insanely low yield for any cake. Someone has gotten more from a few tsp's or leftover cake in a dixie cup knifed to the windowsill and neglected.

Have you tried dunking the cakes before birthing? This will probably help greatly -- someones seen first hand some cakes birthed looking pretty dry--- if it werent for the dunk -- they probably would have netted 1 gram as well.

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Re: cakes dont do it for me anymore, what to try next? [Re: TRS]
    #2221943 - 01/06/04 01:31 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

sounds alright shroomygirl but the reason its where it is is because of stealth. people walk by it all the time and have no idea its even there. if i put poo right in there wouldnt it smell pretty bad?

a while back magash posted a section from a book (i presume) stating that best results are seen with that much light, so thats why i do 12/12 instead of 3/21.


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Re: cakes dont do it for me anymore, what to try next? [Re: plura16]
    #2221949 - 01/06/04 01:33 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

and the light cycle should be 12 on 12 off atleast thats what I do.


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Re: cakes dont do it for me anymore, what to try next? [Re: TRS]
    #2221950 - 01/06/04 01:34 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

plura16, yes, i forgot to mention thats WITH dunking each cake for 24 hours. in case anyone is wondering the strain is koh samui super strain.


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