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dr_gonz said: Intelligent people generally don't die from drug usage. Just saying 
Ripper was fairly intelligent, but he blacked out on benzos and bypassed his intellect and common sense to the point of gobbling drugs by the handful.
Don't think you got it made, you can get carried away in a binge and do stuff you'd never dream of sober.
And yeah Asshat331, you may think Shrooms are safe, and they generally are, but once you are here longer nd look around, you start noticing things.. Patterns..
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This past Sunday I ate 1.7g of B+ aborts around 5:30pm. I would say i reached level 2.5 during my peak. I also had 1.5g of strong kush. Everything was going great until I munched out on some brownies and cheetos around 11:30. I started to feel like I was going to pass out. I was getting real tired and decided to go to bed. I stood up, took two steps, knees buckled and stumbled back into my chair. . My wife decided not to eat them this night. Good thing. As I stumbled back into the chair she said I lost all color. My lips were dead white. She said first I was smacking my lips, then my eyes rolled into the back of my head and was throwing my head back. I had passed/blacked/ out. She kept saying I was grasping for air, then my face turned blood red, then she said I was hacking loudly. She claims my color turned white again, I opened my eyes with huge pupils, then I had a huge burp. Then I puked. All of this happened within a few minutes too. . I knew that I was going to be ok. It was seeing my wife freak out and thinking I was going to die. Thats what really upset me the most. After I vomited I felt great. I was bewildered at the fact that this had happened off of 1.7g. She wants me to stop my hobby but I refuse to accept that it was the mushrooms. I blame myself. It was a really weird experience. (...) Me: Im 25, 6'2", 210lbs. In good shape. I hiked the A.T. for my honeymoon last year. HuMe35
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Normal and common. I think it's low blood pressure. That's what it felt like when it happened to me. Weed makes it more likely. It isn't anything to worry about. Everyone freaks out the first time they pass out on shrooms. Like I said, it's really pretty normal. LSDreamer
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A friend (who now has a fried brain) told me about it [the Shroomery]. We're still good friends.Sad story because he's suck a great guy. He has a history of mental illness in his family and ever since he took shrooms he's had some mental issues like HPPD and even what I think is mild synesthesia (if I can be so bold as to call it that). He's got some depression issues too since he was physically and mentally abused as a child. . One of those guys that had so much potential, but circumstance drove him to do bad things. He was like... a rose that had a chance to be something beautiful but was deprived of nutrients and was kept in a closet. . I don't think it was shrooms that did him in per se, but rather the thing that got the ball rolling. He considered it the greatest thing he had in his life but years later he still sees floors wobble and tracers. He only tried shrooms once. . He also lost his ability to comprehend time. If you ask him to meet you at a certain time he might show up 3 to 4 hours later. He understands his watch but he isn't able to focus on how it works. Kind of like having a piece of paper with words in a language you don't understand; he knows there's something there but he isn't able to decipher it's meaning. . The only time he lights up is when talking about drugs. The man has the mind of a shaman. But everything else he's ever had has either been lost or degraded since his trip. He's mentally unstable sometimes, and has bouts of depression. He's 21 and getting ready for his 8th year in high school. Wapakz
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Hi all... The other night me and some friends were doing a little level-3 trip on some C. Cubensis and we had with us three people that were new to shrooms. Of these three, two had a good trip--no worries. However, one girl, as she started peaking, started having seizures. Uncontrollable muscle spasms that looked painful as hell. It was scary and I was about to take her out of the house and call an ambulance. Each time a "wave" would hit she would start with the seizures again. The fact that they were coming and going made gave us enough confidence that nothing deadly was about to happen. She was having no trouble breathing, no pain, and she was lucid and could speak fine. So we rode it out. As she came down a bit, the seizures went away...but this took about 4 hours to happen. This would indicate to me that the effect was partially dependent on the dosage. Once she came down a bit the seizures stopped entirely and she was able to have a good trip. I know that strobe lights can kick off an epileptic when on shrooms...but I have never heard of any problems like this in an otherwise healthy individual. She does have ambliopea (a slight disfunction of the visual cortex that causes her to have very poor sight in one eye). Has anyone heard of these kind of seizures before? (...) Hm...muscle spasms? I use the word seizure because she was flopping around on the floor legs arms, hands convulsing etc. It was not an act though. Was yours of the same magnitude? Must have been pretty disconcerting if it was. I guess what I am trying to determine here is how dangerous this is and how likely is it to happen to her again. Strabo
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When it happens to me it starts as a slight tremor in my thighs, to a point where I cannot hide it from others in the room. Then it intensifies until I am lying in the fetal position shaking hard enough to rattle my bedsprings. It was EXTREMELY disconcerting the first time (Thought I was going to die; it's SCARY), now it's debilitating but I don't worry about it because it goes away (I thought I as permanently FUCKED the first time). When it really gets going I can see the individual muscles firing in my legs as if they've been zapped with a mild electrical charge; sort of like an involuntary reflex, but in all different muscles. WhiskeyClone
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i took them yesterday (an 8th spread over about 3 hours)... so many events happened i cant remember them all right now - i "lost myself" for most of the duration of the trip but one bad thing was my eyes rolled into the back of my head and i passed out for a little while (as i was told by a person who saw me) - all I remember from this was I was down in my kitchen getting some food and a whole bunch of activity started in my brain and as i tried to walk up to my room and get out of there a river of brown/black seemed to close on my head. i passed out for about a minute and all i remember was white but the rest of the stuff that happened i can't remember. when i woke up i felt really sweaty/wet but i had no perspiration. i smoked about four bowls of marijuana throughout the day if that sparks any explanation CFCID
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HPPD aka Hallucinogen Persisting Perceptual Disorder is a (not so) rare complication of doing Shrooms, Acid and so on. It's basically that you get the perceptual effects of hallucinogens for weeks, months or years without having imbided a Psychedelic. Now you allways think: that's not going to happen to me! . I thought so too, especially after 9 years and about 70 exposures to Shrooms etc. Well: it did. . Some time now I thought I needed an eyedoctor. My vision was not what it's allways been, not quite the same. And about a week ago something happened that opened my eyes. . I was sitting behind my computer writing some stuff. Suddenly I smelled a strong and 100% real aftershave-odor. Now I only rarely use the stuff because of sensitive skin. Haven't seen it for months, actually. But it was an 100% real aftershave odor, no doubt in my mind. I got up and sniffed it out. Ah, well... . I got my Yawara-stick and went trough my house looking for burglars or whatever. Nothing. Doors & windows closed, nobody there. So I sniffed it out further. The odor was strongest where I've been sitting and filled my livingroom etc, but not the bathroom where I keep such stuff nor dit it come from outside. . Ah, yeah, right: Odor hallucination. So would this be one of those flashbacks? Sat on my couch and stared at the carpet (works great on trips) to see if there was something going on. Indeed there was: Flowing, breathing, undulating, patterning... Very Shroomy and quite impressive since I haven't imbided for 3 months and then only 0.5gr of good shrooms. . Right, a flashback then: better enjoy the ride! My mind was very clear, just like it's always been, but still I was vividly hallucinating. I monitored it. It has been a week now & it's been there all the time. I thought about those visual disturbances I have and the picture became complete: Colors a bit off, blurry contrasts between objects, sometimes having to blink a couple of times before being able to read something... HPPD. . It comes in waves: Most of the time it's (fortunately for me) almost unnoticable but sometimes it's quite convincing and the named visual disturbances show up wherever I look. I can summon it: make it more intense if i Will it but the other way around it's not so easy. Grass intensifies it temporarily. If I look at te static on TV (like in Poltergeist) I constantly see threedimensional objects rotating and moving all over the screen, WAY more than I ever saw. I can even think about, say, a spider and within a second I see a spider-pattern forming and moving around. TV static is about random, and all patterns you see inthere are the ones you lay into it. Try it sometime, whilst Tripping or sober... Bitten by the Shroom... Sheesh...
As HPPD goes I've got it quite good: I've read about and corresponded with several people who've got it WAY,WAY worse then I do. For me it's just a little poorer vision & if I look at a "hallucinogenic" surface like my carpet I see all the beautiful stuff that's there when I trip. Am I scared? Nope, it's quite interesting and only a slight hindrance. But what worries me is what the future will bring. You all will probably jump up and scream: DON'T EVER TRIP AGAIN! . Sorry: ain't gonna do that except when the visualstuff proves to be very longlasting or worsens over time. The Shroom has done alot of good for me over the years & I'm not going to just stop because of this. I will take a long break from imbiding to see if it'll blow over and take some to make up my mind about where to go from here. It may be over tomorrow or never go away. Proceeding with the Shroom may or may not make it worse or recur. I'll just take a break and think hard. I don't feel "mauled" or "damaged" or stuff like that and fortunately it's at it's worst just a minor discomfort. . But think about it guys: one shroomtrip about every 2 months. The last years never more than half 1/8 of strong cubies, never anything wrong... And then THIS.
(...) I'm entering my 7th month now, still visuals of varying intensity with moods etc. to fit. Haven't tripped for a long time, it still hasn't diminished. It ain't severe, but 100% real nontheless & every once in a while lines of text start moving too. I feel it's OK, but I sure didn't have this before... (...) Yup, i still have them. Prominently. And no: i'm not counting days but have accepted the new me. So I've got visuals for 2 years straight now? Wow. . All the more it shows that to choose to be a tripper can affect you 24/7 for the rest of your life. . People want k00l drug5 so they take mushrooms, but don't appreciate the fact that it is one of the biggest decisions in your life, even if you just use them as an adjunct to watching Dragonball Z on the TV. . I've been psychedelicised permanently. Permanent mild visuals and increased psychodynamics. I've become a little bit high all the time. . Occasionally I still trip. It worsens nor eases the effects, and I have accepted it as being part of the rest of my life. Permafried... I'm glad its treshold-strength or it would be distracting to say the least. Wiccan_Seeker (update: seven years later, still got HPPD - milder though. It never went away.)
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Well that's the thing, I've always been told psychedelics are physically safe. My mind is solid as a rock when it comes to tripping so I just kept pushing the boundaries, 5g - fine, 10g - fine, 20g - fine, 30g - hospital. . For me, if I didn't get medical attention, I would have died. For a full 48 hours my facials muscles (along with the rest of my body, but you expect that on massive doses) were paralyzed and I needed massive amounts of IV nutrition because not only couldn't I eat, the simple muscles to swallow water were fucked. . Everything returned to normal (bar the OCD), but fuck being 100% paralyzed for over 2 days... wish I was told if you took massive doses your body would get owned. Chubba
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thats some intense stuff, i haven't tripped in a year and a half now. i stopped because a single high anxiety trip on only 1.7 grams of cubes triggered some possibly latent anxiety afterwards. the anxiety was strong for about 4 months, then it was just as strong but less frequent for several more months. since then its been fading away gradually. i bought some shrooms when i thought i was ready to trip again about 2 weeks ago, but when i was about to eat them i suddenly felt anxiety instead of anticipation and took that as a warning that im not quite ready yet. so i didn't take them even though my friend took his, and im fine with that because even not tripping i was feeling kind of discombobulated the rest of the night. its a strange ambivalence i feel about mushrooms. its such a magical and amazing state of mind that it became a deep part of me and still is a year and a half later. Psilyguy
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Hi, looking for some insight regarding my experience on shrooms. This was not my first trip. So, heres the story:
I had eaten 2 chocolates, not sure of the amount in each one, and was having a great time in the woods near the ocean all night and morning with my good friend. I had a powerful realization about the ego and the projected ego, and the non existence of the self but rather there just being one thing entirely that makes up all things that only appear to be separate. And how all things emerge from a single "great" river of thought, as it were, that exists on a level much higher than our own reality. I celebrated my newfound wisdom with a spliff, weed/tobacco mix. (At that time I was a smoker)
I finished the spliff, and was calmly contemplating my newfound realization while standing with my arms crossed and starring into the woods for maybe 5 minutes. Then all of a sudden I started getting really really dizzy. I lost use of my body slowly and I had no choice but to drop to my knees, then all fours, and the last thing I remember is my face as it laid itself into the dirt.
I was unconscious, but there was a definite awareness of a new place "I" was in. It had very distinct characteristics such as no time flow, total darkness, also emotions did not exist here. It was as if I could "see", but by means of awareness instead of eyes. I was indeed flowing in a great river of consciousness, and I started to realize that I could do anything I wanted, think anything up and it would just manifest itself in a seperate reality of which I might be able to be a part of. Most importantly it was the most blissful and perfect feeling I have ever had. Remembering and conveying this experience to others has been so powerful it has even led me to tears from remembering how completely perfect it was.
Then, I awake to my friend holding my head up and staring me in the eyes, I noticed there were tears in his. I gasped the biggest inhale of my life as though I held it underwater for 10 minutes. My vision came to like a small circle of reality and light, getting bigger and bigger until it filled the edges of my previously black sight. My friend says my name loudly a few times until I answer with, "what happened?!" As he started telling me the story, I interrupted him to say that I was somehow pissing my pants at that moment, and felt absolutely no control over it what-so-ever.
My friend says that I had fell to the ground, had semi-violent seizures for about 1 minute. Then, when the seizures stopped, I had stopped breathing completely, and also had no pulse. This lasted for another minute. Then as he was smacking me, rubbing my head and yelling my name I came to again.
The rest of the day it was very hard to have any energy, and even walking at a normal pace made me very dizzy. Also, starting from the moment I awakened on the ground, my chest, in particular my heart area, felt very sore and as though there was a very heavy weight on my chest. These symptoms took about a week to subside.
Neither my friend nor I can decide on any implications to what had caused it to happen. Dehydration seems to feeble a cause for such an effect, as do most things I can think of that I've heard of before when people pass out. Although my passing out was obviously much more than just passing out.
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Last year I took mushrooms with the wrong person in the wrong state of mind. Long story short, police found my in the bathtub with the tap running, water overflowing into the hallway, with a slashed wrist and a plugged in hairdryer sitting on a ledge just above me... Still cringe to this day. I remember every minute of that fucked up trip, most distinctly the digging the knife deep into my wrist and ripping it up upward. Needed surgery, my hand was numb for a week.
Shrooms are not to be fucked around with. Make sure you are in a good set/setting and state of mind. This was my 15th or so trip too.
Fuck, still not over it.
**UPDATE: Heres my post from later in the thread in case you missed it. I'm NOT making this shit up. It happened late June last year:
I wasnt suicidal before the trip, but i do get mild social anxiety. The guy i tripped with wasnt one of my friends, and was actually a dick.I just started to feel really really shit about myself, got EXTREMELY anxious, and extreme paranoia.
For some reason I thought i was guilty of something really bad and that I killed someone and was goin to jail. And everyone, my friends, my family, my neighbourhood was talking about me and laughing about me becuase of something i did
(i didnt even know what it was but all sorts orap was going through my head that couldnt be real but I was convinced they could be) I thought I was fucked and that my life was over anyway i was goin to jail and couldnt go on with the humiliation
and shame. So this voice in my head told me to kill myself and i thought that was the only way out. So I was lookin for all these ways to do it but couldnt figure it out cos its hard to do simple things while tripping. So I grabbed a knife and
ripped my wrist open. By this point the cops were called and I wanted to die before they got there. So I grabbed the hairdrier, went into the bathroom and plugged it in, got into the bath with my clothes still on (phone in pocket) and ran cold
water. By this time I forgot about the hairdrier cos i was tripping... This is when I started to come down. I just sat there (still convinced i needed to die) for some time until i heard a knock on the front door and voices. I knew it was the cops.
I just remained silent until they let themselves in and found me. There were actually really good about it and asked if I had the knife and all that. They asked me a few questions but I was still partially psychotic and told them all kinds of bulshit
that I thought happened that wasn't even real. They told me to change into dry clothes and took me to the hospital. It was in the back of the police car when I finally snapped out of it and realised what the fuck was really going on. Thats
when I knew I was fucked.
I guess I must be mentally weak/unstable. How do I not be?
Hope that's detailed enough becuase typing about it wrecked my high.
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i have been going through alot of posts and researching instances of paralysis and extreme muscle weakness due to taking azures or cyans
this is something that has happened to me and after reading many other peoples descriptions of the effects im certain we are all experiencing the same phenomena
many times i have become very very tired towards the end of a mushroom trip but definitely not paralyzed. also iv noticed that wood lovers, azures and cyans alike have a tendency to make you see cross eyed, muscle relaxation around your face is the reason why
the first time it ever noticed something weird happening it was on a rather irresponsibly high dose, and it happened around the 6th hour, my jaw was the first thing to go, and soon i was not able to close my mouth or sand up. and focused action resulted in nothing more than quivering muscles unable to comply with what my brain was saying, and since i was still so high, i could actually see this nervous dissonance happening right in front of me
last week i tryed azures again fro the first time in 6 months, i made tea because i had read that its possible that a bacteria that grows on the mushrooms could cause the paralysis, and boiling the bacteria would nullify any negative effects. well the trip went great, had a great time, and intense great time. but again around the 6th hour i was unable to focus my eyes, and my jaw muscles weakened. knowing it was impossible to fight i layed down and just went to sleep. in the morning i woke up to give my friend a ride home. and found that i was completely unable to balance myself on my feet. my eyes where crossed and i was seeing double. my legs would not respond to my commands. and i found myself in the grips of the familiar feeling of being squashed under a tremendous weight. my friend drove to his house and by the time we got there and i sat and stretched for a bit i was able to see and move enough to drive. i noticed extreme fatigue in my muscles especially my hands for 3 days after the trip.
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