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meowshroom
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Anyone ever get heart palpatations from shrooms?
#22216598 - 09/10/15 11:59 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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So, I've had both Atrial Fibrilations and PVC's (preventricular contractions) in my life... The doctors have no clue what causes them, however I have recently discovered that raw milk products (yogurt, cream, milk) will bring them on. Since avoiding said products, I am hardly bothered by them at all.
However, after eating mushrooms, I have definitely noticed them exacerbate. Has anyone else experienced them? I do get stressed out pretty easily. I've been taking benzo's for around 15 years (prescribed) and have had extreme panic attacks from xanax withdrawls (don't ever get addicted to that bad boy....). Currently I take valium... around 15mg a day.
I don't think the two are connected, but worth mentioning... I had a very strong trip after getting way too drunk recently, and do not recall if I had heart palpitations as I experienced ego loss. That was a pretty nutty experience... Everything I saw was made up of fractals, then I became made of fractals... I went to pet my fractalized dog, and then we became an extension of fractals, ceased to be individual fractal entities, and melded. Crazy experience there.
Anyways... the heart palpitations thing is the biggy. Any one with hypersensitivity to their heart ever feel them?
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Re: Anyone ever get heart palpatations from shrooms? [Re: meowshroom]
#22216760 - 09/10/15 12:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Never had this myself. But I'm curious. A friend has a heart condition, and I would like to give him some of my homegrown. Kind of worried that it may cause problems, or even interact with his regular medication.
I have seen my face turn rather red during the come up sometimes and wondered if this was raised blood pressure (it's not just a visual effect, I've seen it on a picture).
Hope you find the info you need.
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Re: Anyone ever get heart palpatations from shrooms? [Re: Hanz]
#22217254 - 09/10/15 02:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I do get weird feeling from my chest when tripping and even for a few weeks after. I only do shrooms a couple times a year. This is one of the reason why I don't take them often.
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Re: Anyone ever get heart palpatations from shrooms? [Re: Dr. Delban]
#22217298 - 09/10/15 03:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes both my wife and I get them they SUCK and and ruin the whole trip for me...last four months everytime I trip and a little all the time now
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Re: Anyone ever get heart palpatations from shrooms? [Re: 99.99]
#22217355 - 09/10/15 03:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mushrooms and other enthogens do cause vasoconstriction which can stress the heart a little more than usual. Try a little niacin or even a half of a viagra to ease the blood vessel constriction. I'm in my 50's and have had a-fib 20 years ago when I drank alcoholically...but haven't had it since. I do get extra heartbeats sometimes but that is usually only if I haven't been taking good care of myself...getting too stressed ...H.A.L.T....Hungry, angry, lonely or tired....I make a point of never tripping when I am experiencing any of those feelings.
It's pretty hard to say what goes on in our individual hearts...you would pretty much have to wear one of those EKG monitors that you wear for a couple days....actually, that would be a great idea to trip wearing one of those....I'd love to see what my heart is doing. I have a pretty chill Primary Physician...maybe I'll try to talk him into letting me try (for science).
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Re: Anyone ever get heart palpatations from shrooms? [Re: Thayendanegea]
#22217459 - 09/10/15 03:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thayendanegea said: Mushrooms and other enthogens do cause vasoconstriction which can stress the heart a little more than usual. Try a little niacin or even a half of a viagra to ease the blood vessel constriction. I'm in my 50's and have had a-fib 20 years ago when I drank alcoholically...but haven't had it since. I do get extra heartbeats sometimes but that is usually only if I haven't been taking good care of myself...getting too stressed ...H.A.L.T....Hungry, angry, lonely or tired....I make a point of never tripping when I am experiencing any of those feelings.
It's pretty hard to say what goes on in our individual hearts...you would pretty much have to wear one of those EKG monitors that you wear for a couple days....actually, that would be a great idea to trip wearing one of those....I'd love to see what my heart is doing. I have a pretty chill Primary Physician...maybe I'll try to talk him into letting me try (for science).
Good idea i'll try some niacin Mineral deficiencies Calcium, magnesium and potassium deficiencies can also affect heart rhythm and cause rapid heart beat at rest.
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Re: Anyone ever get heart palpatations from shrooms? [Re: 99.99]
#22217484 - 09/10/15 03:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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How about nitroglycerine? I bought some a while ago and always have it on me when tripping. Never used it yet though.
I wish I had it a few years ago when I drank loads of black coffee before dosing Pedro tea and smoking weed... I had such severe chest pain, I could not move my left arm. I stayed on the floor for few hours not being able to call ambulance - even if I decided to.
Edited by Dr. Delban (09/10/15 03:56 PM)
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meowshroom
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Re: Anyone ever get heart palpatations from shrooms? [Re: Thayendanegea]
#22220626 - 09/11/15 08:00 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thayendanegea said: Mushrooms and other enthogens do cause vasoconstriction which can stress the heart a little more than usual. Try a little niacin or even a half of a viagra to ease the blood vessel constriction. I'm in my 50's and have had a-fib 20 years ago when I drank alcoholically...but haven't had it since. I do get extra heartbeats sometimes but that is usually only if I haven't been taking good care of myself...getting too stressed ...H.A.L.T....Hungry, angry, lonely or tired....I make a point of never tripping when I am experiencing any of those feelings.
It's pretty hard to say what goes on in our individual hearts...you would pretty much have to wear one of those EKG monitors that you wear for a couple days....actually, that would be a great idea to trip wearing one of those....I'd love to see what my heart is doing. I have a pretty chill Primary Physician...maybe I'll try to talk him into letting me try (for science).
Now that's an interesting idea... When I was having my PVC's I wore a holter monitor and the cardiologist said the impulses were coming from a very strange place in my heart. He said he could try laser ablasion, but he said it would be a 50/50 chance of fixing things.
I asked if there was a pill I could take... He gave me something of which I don't remember the name. I took it once, and I stopped having the PVC's. At this point in time, I was eating 1 yogurt per day, and having probably around 100 PVC's per hour. Talk about annoying... But then they started up again. Weed really makes my heart race - I smoked around 5 tokes of some really good stuff and I thought I was going to die. My heart rate reached 200bpm. Scary.
But yea... I'm sure my PVC's would come from the same place if I was to eat shrooms, but that begs the question, "What do unrefined milk products and shrooms have in common?"
Maybe that's an easier question to ask a doctor/google/the shroomery.
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meowshroom
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Re: Anyone ever get heart palpatations from shrooms? [Re: meowshroom]
#22220646 - 09/11/15 08:04 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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i'll add that I do have some beta blockers (atenolol) for a-fibs, which I haven't had in a very long time. These feel like extra beats where the PVC's feel like your heart is flip flopping around.
Anyways... the atenolol had no effect on PVCs when I have taken shrooms. I couldn't take the other thing for PVCs because of an interaction with a medicine I was taking at the time.
This is pretty scary to know that I am not the only one who has experienced this... Maybe shrooms aren't as harmless as we thought? I'm not trying to spread FUD, but simply share experiences, and the fact that multiple people have chimed in, in only a day, is somewhat of a red flag.
Maybe RR will hop in the convo with words of wisdom.
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Re: Anyone ever get heart palpatations from shrooms? [Re: meowshroom]
#22223743 - 09/11/15 07:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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meowshroom said: i'll add that I do have some beta blockers (atenolol) for a-fibs, which I haven't had in a very long time. These feel like extra beats where the PVC's feel like your heart is flip flopping around.
Anyways... the atenolol had no effect on PVCs when I have taken shrooms. I couldn't take the other thing for PVCs because of an interaction with a medicine I was taking at the time.
This is pretty scary to know that I am not the only one who has experienced this... Maybe shrooms aren't as harmless as we thought? I'm not trying to spread FUD, but simply share experiences, and the fact that multiple people have chimed in, in only a day, is somewhat of a red flag.
Maybe RR will hop in the convo with words of wisdom.
I'm taking atenalal now not because I need it but as a precaution for my diabetes and shrooms still give me flip flops I'm going to try niacin as well as maybe Viagra, my wife loves sex on shrooms but I can never cum so it's real frustrating
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champinhom
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Re: Anyone ever get heart palpatations from shrooms? [Re: meowshroom]
#22224209 - 09/11/15 08:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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meowshroom said: So, I've had both Atrial Fibrilations and PVC's (preventricular contractions) in my life... The doctors have no clue what causes them, however I have recently discovered that raw milk products (yogurt, cream, milk) will bring them on. Since avoiding said products, I am hardly bothered by them at all.
However, after eating mushrooms, I have definitely noticed them exacerbate. Has anyone else experienced them? I do get stressed out pretty easily. I've been taking benzo's for around 15 years (prescribed) and have had extreme panic attacks from xanax withdrawls (don't ever get addicted to that bad boy....). Currently I take valium... around 15mg a day.
I don't think the two are connected, but worth mentioning... I had a very strong trip after getting way too drunk recently, and do not recall if I had heart palpitations as I experienced ego loss. That was a pretty nutty experience... Everything I saw was made up of fractals, then I became made of fractals... I went to pet my fractalized dog, and then we became an extension of fractals, ceased to be individual fractal entities, and melded. Crazy experience there.
Anyways... the heart palpitations thing is the biggy. Any one with hypersensitivity to their heart ever feel them?
I had palpitations at one point in my life. They started when I was about 30.They were not tied to psychedelic use. I was not using any phsychedlics. Anyway, they got worse. I started reading. I came upon some anecdotal evidence that taking calmag could eliminate the problem. I bought some Now brand calmag, 500mg capsules, started taking 4 a day--that was what was suggested on the bottle--and the palps went away. To this day, decades later, I still take magnesium--magnesium deficiency seems to have been the issue with me-- every day. The palps have not returned.
I would try taking magnesium on a regular basis, mushrooms or no, and then when you do mushrooms, see if the palps still come on. If so, ditch the shrooms.
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meowshroom
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Re: Anyone ever get heart palpatations from shrooms? [Re: champinhom]
#22237639 - 09/14/15 05:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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it's strange, but viagra stops my palps... Not complaining... And neither have any of the girls in my life! hahah
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