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    #22216544 - 09/10/15 11:43 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Astrophytum caput-medusae seeds. 50 of them.

Well the stupid idiot who delivered my first seeds to someone else has still, to this date, not been able to recover them. How can some people be so dishonest.

Well The vendor I got them from was super cool and said he would send another 50 and he would pay for shipping. I would just pay for the seeds. Totally cool of the guy. I'm still gonna try and get my money back from the first one through the u.s. postal service. Hopefully it will happen.

Now to the fun part. I have my seeds buts it's september. Would it be wise to start them so late in the summer? I don't want to mess them up. Usually we start to get a few cold fronts in October. This time around I won't start them all like the last time. 5 at a time would be good and use them to graft. I wanna use 100% straight rock. Anybody have suggestions to this. Maybe some tweeks half rock half soil. I know of very little people who have successfully grown this species.

Any advice will be greatly appreciated.


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Re: they came [Re: ferrel_human]
    #22217149 - 09/10/15 02:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I'd guess it depends upon where you plan on growing them.  If indoors under lights I don't time of year is that important. If you are growing them out doors or in a greenhouse under natural lighting then you may not see any germination till spring, and may have reduced rates if they remained moist all winter.


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Re: they came [Re: kykeion]
    #22217393 - 09/10/15 03:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

good luck...and that vendor should've reshipped them free of charge.


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Re: they came [Re: kosmokratorshaman] * 1
    #22217453 - 09/10/15 03:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Indoors with heat and light you can grow seedlings any time of year.  I usually sow a batch in the fall just to have something to do over winter.  :lol: 

I just altered my seedling tek, I mix about 50% horticultural(river sand) and the rest lava, pumice and hydrated coco coir in equal measure with a handful of gypsum and a pinch of lime, add a little more water, put them in jars and do a full, proper pasteurization at 160-180 in a pot of water on the stove (look up RR's mushroom sub paseurization tek) then let them cool.

Then I take the seeds and if I'm going to use GA-3 I apply it (I'm shying away from hormones at the moment), then do a peroxide rinse, fill new 3" plastic pots with the pasteurized soil, add the seeds with tweezers, push them in a bit, cover with a plastic sandwich bag and seal it with a rubberband, then put them on the seed mat and leave them be. 

I am having awesome results, good germination, no damping off, perfect humidity retention without misting, I don't even have to take the humidity tent off, I do a bottom water with boiled rainwater or distilled water to keep them sterile every two weeks or so and I've lost no seedlings.  For the first time I'm actually keeping aztekium alive and looking well.  Coir and river sand for the win, you can have your rocks as well, but you need that coir for moisture if you don't want to lose a whole bunch of seedlings to the moisture fluctuations and the river sand keeps them from falling down into the cracks and getting lost.


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Re: they came [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
    #22217662 - 09/10/15 04:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

That's the one that has all the crazy hairs on it right?


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Re: they came [Re: ferrel_human]
    #22218172 - 09/10/15 06:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Just wondering, How much do 50 Caput Medusae seeds cost? i know that they are expensive, but exactly how much?


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Re: they came [Re: Lemnaminor]
    #22219237 - 09/10/15 10:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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kosmokratorshaman said:
good luck...and that vendor should've reshipped them free of charge.




I just couldn't expect him to do that when the stupid idiot mailman can't do a simple task. But I'm going over to the post office tomorrow and taking thwm my emailed receipt so I have proof of how much I paid. The manager there said they would make the person who delivered it pay for it. I sure hope so.
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P.Zappatecorum said:
Indoors with heat and light you can grow seedlings any time of year.  I usually sow a batch in the fall just to have something to do over winter.  :lol: 

I just altered my seedling tek, I mix about 50% horticultural(river sand) and the rest lava, pumice and hydrated coco coir in equal measure with a handful of gypsum and a pinch of lime, add a little more water, put them in jars and do a full, proper pasteurization at 160-180 in a pot of water on the stove (look up RR's mushroom sub paseurization tek) then let them cool.

Then I take the seeds and if I'm going to use GA-3 I apply it (I'm shying away from hormones at the moment), then do a peroxide rinse, fill new 3" plastic pots with the pasteurized soil, add the seeds with tweezers, push them in a bit, cover with a plastic sandwich bag and seal it with a rubberband, then put them on the seed mat and leave them be. 

I am having awesome results, good germination, no damping off, perfect humidity retention without misting, I don't even have to take the humidity tent off, I do a bottom water with boiled rainwater or distilled water to keep them sterile every two weeks or so and I've lost no seedlings.  For the first time I'm actually keeping aztekium alive and looking well.  Coir and river sand for the win, you can have your rocks as well, but you need that coir for moisture if you don't want to lose a whole bunch of seedlings to the moisture fluctuations and the river sand keeps them from falling down into the cracks and getting lost.




This helps me out immensely. I think maybe 50/50 mineral/coir. I like to keep them close to nature as I can. But I'll decide tomorrow. Frida is the day where I will be busy with the yard amd getting it in tip top shape. It's a damn mess back there.

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Bumbaclotjohnson said:
That's the one that has all the crazy hairs on it right?




That's the one. My white whale. Hopefully this grow materializes for me.

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Lemnaminor said:
Just wondering, How much do 50 Caput Medusae seeds cost? i know that they are expensive, but exactly how much?




Do an ebay search. About 34 US dollars. I thought it was cheap for fifty. I've paid 16 US dollars for 10 seeds before.


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Re: they came [Re: ferrel_human]
    #22219528 - 09/11/15 12:09 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Ok as I watching TV and perusing the Internet, I believe I will do 10 seeds in soil consisting of coco coir, sand and perlite. And 10 straight rock. And I will do 5 for grafting purposes. This, I believe, will show me which method works best for me. Man this ativan has made me very thoughtful. :takingnotes:


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Re: they came [Re: ferrel_human]
    #22223876 - 09/11/15 07:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Nice dude, update with pics as your project progresses. 
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