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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: jcm4620]
    #26974415 - 10/07/20 07:55 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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ive had that b4 psilo gnna abort usually when that happens did they get wet when they were small pins or knots??




They didn’t abort.  They start out almost charcoal black and as the mature they lighten up to a pale tan. 🤷‍♂️


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: PsiloPsychIn] * 1
    #26974649 - 10/07/20 11:00 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

This is the color they turn when mature.
I’m noticing that the stipes are fairly grey also.




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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: PsiloPsychIn]
    #26974892 - 10/08/20 03:38 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

huh ive mever had them do that b4 but atleast u got fruits 👍👍 congrats man i just went to lay my rdu and the damn thjngs didnt recover 🤦🏻‍♂️ back to the drawing board im ready for this year to be fucking over with its been so so terrible and im sick of it. i think ima go run a tray of jambos real quick tho while im workin on getting shit back up and going here


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: jcm4620]
    #26974967 - 10/08/20 06:11 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

damn brother, that sucks! i guess i'll have to wait and see how what mine does... changed my name, old one was whitethumb


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: GlitchInSpace]
    #26975227 - 10/08/20 10:23 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

right on man 👍

ive about got all my home repairs and work finished so il b getting ready to crank some shit out very soon


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: jcm4620]
    #26975254 - 10/08/20 10:42 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

My Cyan clone is colonizing the grain extremely slowly. They really love high temps. :frown:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: jcm4620]
    #26975295 - 10/08/20 11:18 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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jcm4620 said:
right on man 👍

ive about got all my home repairs and work finished so il b getting ready to crank some shit out very soon




got my pans on grains right now. debating if i want to use up some of my pic space for pics lol. i'll probably wait a bit


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Adas] * 1
    #26975323 - 10/08/20 11:32 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Adas my Pan cy clone was super slow on grain too (took nearly 4 weeks) but then when I mixed it with the bulk it went off, fully colonized in 5 days.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: CHUCK.HNTR]
    #26975343 - 10/08/20 11:42 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Adas my Pan cy clone was super slow on grain too (took nearly 4 weeks) but then when I mixed it with the bulk it went off, fully colonized in 5 days.




Good to know man. Thanks!


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Adas]
    #26976799 - 10/09/20 10:26 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Pan cyan brooksville FL (me) coming up, These pins are moving really fast they were just barely poking through the surface just 12 hours ago


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419] * 2
    #26976823 - 10/09/20 10:52 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

That's awesome Jake! :rockon:

Wait..(me).. did you pick this one?

Oh I forgot I made 1 tray if Red Down Under - Tropicalis.

Then just now, when harvesting I noticed something really cool.. one is Pan Jamaica one is not, guess which is which!



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Puduwoke]
    #26977862 - 10/10/20 01:58 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

What is your time interval for pasteurization / sterilization for bigger bulk than average guys? Why I'm asking.
Had four :eek: fails in a row during the summer on very last stage of manure\verm colonization using 2h pasteurization. Which is absolutely crazy rate pointing to systematic problem. All sources - petrie's, LC's, jar's were clean and good with low fail rate. 

I start thinking why it stop working for me and realize that I didn't run such a big projects before. It's x3 by volume compare to previous projects so I need to run my filled to the top 23qt Presto two times.

I think for that amount 2h pasteurization simply not enough and decide to do 4h sterilization this time. But by the will of fate sealing ring on my Presto has crocked, so I can't run it for a few weeks before new ring arrive. So my plan for today is to run pasteurization again but for 8-12h. What do you think of all this, probable?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: gt40]
    #26978197 - 10/10/20 09:18 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)


I finally got a cooker that will hold a perfect 160 range throughout the entire sub. Super easy.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: gt40]
    #26978207 - 10/10/20 09:23 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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What is your time interval for pasteurization / sterilization for bigger bulk than average guys? Why I'm asking.
Had four :eek: fails in a row during the summer on very last stage of manure\verm colonization using 2h pasteurization. Which is absolutely crazy rate pointing to systematic problem. All sources - petrie's, LC's, jar's were clean and good with low fail rate. 

I start thinking why it stop working for me and realize that I didn't run such a big projects before. It's x3 by volume compare to previous projects so I need to run my filled to the top 23qt Presto two times.

I think for that amount 2h pasteurization simply not enough and decide to do 4h sterilization this time. But by the will of fate sealing ring on my Presto has crocked, so I can't run it for a few weeks before new ring arrive. So my plan for today is to run pasteurization again but for 8-12h. What do you think of all this, probable?




Yeah man I set mine to run overnight 12-16 hours, electric cookers make it really easy


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26978330 - 10/10/20 10:51 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I pasteurize in an “Instant Pot” at 167 degrees for 3hrs on “sous vide” mode.
It doesn’t start the timer until it’s fully up to temp so the 3hr cook time takes like 5hrs from heat up to cool down.
One important thing I’ve learned is to make sure not to fill the jars completely full. When the jars are loaded in the pot the water level should be above the top of the bulk sub so the heat from the water can penetrate (air temp alone inside the pot will not reach pasteurizing temp)


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: CHUCK.HNTR]
    #26978346 - 10/10/20 11:00 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Few more shots of the brooksville tray, cloning now


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26978350 - 10/10/20 11:03 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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gt40 said:
What is your time interval for pasteurization / sterilization for bigger bulk than average guys? Why I'm asking.
Had four :eek: fails in a row during the summer on very last stage of manure\verm colonization using 2h pasteurization. Which is absolutely crazy rate pointing to systematic problem. All sources - petrie's, LC's, jar's were clean and good with low fail rate. 

I start thinking why it stop working for me and realize that I didn't run such a big projects before. It's x3 by volume compare to previous projects so I need to run my filled to the top 23qt Presto two times.

I think for that amount 2h pasteurization simply not enough and decide to do 4h sterilization this time. But by the will of fate sealing ring on my Presto has crocked, so I can't run it for a few weeks before new ring arrive. So my plan for today is to run pasteurization again but for 8-12h. What do you think of all this, probable?




Yeah man I set mine to run overnight 12-16 hours, electric cookers make it really easy




I put my crockpot on 8 hour when doing my Pan substrate.

How come most older teks say pasteurize for 1-1.5 hour and we have a lot of success doing several more hours?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Puduwoke]
    #26978367 - 10/10/20 11:16 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I think there was some confusion about the difference between going over temperature and Going over time restraints. there were some who thought that you would begin to partially sterilize your substrate If you ran for more than a few hours which is not necessarily true. Now if you exceed temperature parameters you will do this however the pasteurization of most things happens Over the course of eight hours at least. It takes several hours for the substrate to reach a core temperature of 162 Fahrenheit anyway, I ran it on for 12 hours one time after getting frustrated with how long it was taking to reach core temperature and everything worked out fine and I’ve done it that way ever since.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26978422 - 10/10/20 11:54 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I always thought it needed to hit around 160 for a couple hours to kill off some of the bad bacteria, but you could let it go as long as you want if it stays in the right temperature window.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: A.k.a]
    #26978450 - 10/10/20 12:25 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Happy to hear this. Makes sence, thanks guys

I cannot recommened a crockpot for pasterurizing enough for people:rockon:


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