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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
    #26943044 - 09/18/20 07:41 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I'm adding about 8% by weight to the sub (including water weight).


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
    #26943115 - 09/18/20 08:45 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Welp I just shot for the high end on wheat bran and did 20%. My wheat bran/sub cakes did really well and colonized close to the speed of grain. 12 days on the cakes and I barely used any I think it was about 7%.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Celestialexplorer1]
    #26943120 - 09/18/20 08:49 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I mathed  that wrong turns out 15% actually.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Celestialexplorer1]
    #26943777 - 09/19/20 09:39 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

thats awsum asura i cant wait to see ur results man.

i checked  my rdu and phv jars this mornin and ive already got exellent growth. i dropped the wedges on thurs night.  so i should be on track to spawn on wed or thurs of next week. cant wait to get some decent clone worthy fruits


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: jcm4620]
    #26943958 - 09/19/20 11:41 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I’ve been having pasteurization issues again, possibly due to not presoaking soaking the straw or maybe the manure I’m using. I’ve been doing a three hour pasteurization and a couple days later I can smell the manure starting to have a certain smell. It’s gotta be the endospores that hadn’t bloomed yet in the straw or manure and they bloom after the cook. It smells fine going in and coming out but 3-4 days later I smell it. Think I’m going to start making my bags and hydrating them and then letting them sit for 12 hours and then pasteurizing. That way it gives anything in there a chance to bloom and I can kill it all off in the cook.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Celestialexplorer1]
    #26944076 - 09/19/20 12:41 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Thats a good idea Celestialexplorer1! Ive been having issues pasteurizing too I might try presoaking next time.

How would you describe the smell? Mine was fishy last time.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: CHUCK.HNTR]
    #26944173 - 09/19/20 01:26 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

It’s not even a rotten or manure smell just slightly potent. But I know where that’s going to lead so I chucked them. If there’s any sort of smell other than the standard fresh aged horse manure smell it’s never a good thing.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Celestialexplorer1]
    #26944222 - 09/19/20 01:49 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Maybe try cold pasteurizing the whole thing in lime? I've thought about doing it
before, but haven't ever tried it. I'm pretty stuck on sterilization at this
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
    #26944233 - 09/19/20 01:55 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I’ve thought about doing this also. I’ve done it for oysters but would lime pasteurization work for manure as well.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Celestialexplorer1]
    #26944240 - 09/19/20 02:00 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I don't really know, to be honest. Conceptually, it seems like you would end
up with sub that favored myc, not trich or other contams. It's compelling
enough to me that I might try it.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
    #26944245 - 09/19/20 02:03 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I’ve also wondered by doing this doesn’t it in turn make the sub like way more acidic and would that effect pan myc negatively in comparison to oyster myc.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Celestialexplorer1]
    #26944276 - 09/19/20 02:17 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, it might be a little much. I was reading this awhile back and it got me
thinking about lime pasteurization or just adding lime to the substrate. Different
species, but still I thought about it.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/287905250_Effect_of_different_levels_of_lime_and_pH_on_mycelial_growth_and_production_efficiency_of_oyster_mushroom_Pleurotus_SPP


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
    #26944297 - 09/19/20 02:30 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Ok, maybe ya'll are interested...maybe not.

I have almost completely rewritten, reorganized and more importantly
condensed my write up. There's new information. It's more clear. And
it's shorter!


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
    #26944500 - 09/19/20 04:17 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Good to know! I was gonna read it again anyway bc I've been too overconcentrated on my cube grows lately and I really need to get back into pan mode. Going to my buddy's tmrw to try and create a suitablr fc out of all the  electronic crap I fouraged and don't know how to hook up.

He's an appliance repair guy luckily.. I'm such a retard with that kind of stuff. I'll just open his beers for him and roll him joints untill he's got it worked out.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Tweeq]
    #26944533 - 09/19/20 04:37 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Hey Tweeq! Good to see ya. I think you'll find the information is much easier
to digest and will give you a better explanation of what needs to happen.

Keep us posted man.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
    #26944890 - 09/19/20 08:33 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I’m jumping back to pasteurized bulk hopefully I got everything sorted out wish me luck inoculating now


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #26944909 - 09/19/20 08:46 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

good luck jake👍 hell i need sum  luck too. im just so bored not having anything going on and it sux. all i have goin at the moment is a cpl qt jars of rdu and phv. i am constantly feeling like my routine is fucked up. im so used to checking trays and making transfers and all that shit and now that i have nothing to do other than waiting for grain to colonize i feel like im living a different life or something lol


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: jcm4620]
    #26944947 - 09/19/20 09:09 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

i'm board too lol. estero is not looking real good on agar. waiting for my sterile swabs to inoculate more petri dishes.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: GlitchInSpace]
    #26945073 - 09/19/20 10:53 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Lol get used to it, growing pans requires constant tweaking It’s not as easy to just run the same exact routine across the whole year and get the same results as it is with cubes I am constantly re-dialing my tenants dealing with the different qualities of manure and straw, adjust case depending on PM PH, constantly cleaning and replacing parts lol I’ve made this comparison before but I really think it’s true growing cubes is kind of like worm and bobber fishing where as growing pans is more like flyfishing


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
    #26945404 - 09/20/20 02:09 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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Hey Tweeq! Good to see ya. I think you'll find the information is much easier
to digest and will give you a better explanation of what needs to happen.

Keep us posted man.




Thanks Asura! Will do. You have been a great help already. When the fc is done I'll be out of excuses.

Last year was a little too early for me to try at pans. Been improving a lot on my cube grows and feel more confident. Also all the other guys on here have had such good results.. I can't be staying behind forever.


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