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Teemo 6T3
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: the_r3dz]
#23273581 - 05/26/16 11:22 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sounds like a good idea, i already have a baby nepenthes growing, and i don't think mold would be a problem, cus we already plant these types of plants on a non nutritious substrate, it'll be kinda cool if i just hang one of the pitchers inside the chamber lol
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: the_r3dz]
#23273589 - 05/26/16 11:24 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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The way I *kinda* solved it was to take the first thing I saw gnats on this year and move it to separate room (basement). I try to keep at least one thing growing there at all times (second flush), knowing full well it will get gnats, but it also distracts them from Going into the other room cause a new food source is closer.
I know it sounds weird but its been working for me recently.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: blindingleaf]
#23273597 - 05/26/16 11:25 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Lol, "my way to defend against the gnats is to keep a gnat farm in my basement"
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: the_r3dz]
#23273703 - 05/26/16 11:59 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I tried getting rid of them and gave up. Now I just give them little snacks and they stay put
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: blindingleaf]
#23273720 - 05/26/16 12:06 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah, I understand why you would want to do that. TBH I can't really move my stuff though. No space. I guess I could try the sticky mats but that will be a bitch to pull off. My culture room is just full of plates and jars and LCs.
I used to keep everything in my bedroom but I had to move everything due to the sheer amount of things I already have in here. I only fruit in my bedroom nowadays. There is another empty-ish room but I would have to move all the furniture in there as well.
Last summer I abondoned all my current cultures to get rid of them. Started fresh in a new room and it went pretty well, didn't see another mite inthere for months, until now. I keep all my plates in ziplocks as well, fuckers must have gone inside whever I forgot to close them.
I can never really get rid of mites here, limestone buildings keep too much moisture for them to totally disappear. Summer is the time for them to come out and play it seems.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#23273830 - 05/26/16 12:44 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Once you start getting a few gnats, they may be finding other places in your house to live and breed. Dirty dishes in the sink that keep geting wet is a prime breeding ground for gnats.
2 tbls apple cider vinegar 1 tbls sugar few drops of liquid dish-washing detergent 1 qt o f water
Mix well and put in to a few small containers and set around your tubs, room, or wherever you think gnats may be breeding or feeding.
Fungus gnats are attracted to the sugar and vinegar and die when they touch it because of the soap.
You can also make traps out of small bottles, such as small soda, water, or pill bottles, and put a little mixture in there. If you wrap it in something, you don't have to look at dead gnats all the time.
They also like to live in drains, especially the kitchen sink drain. Cleaning the drains can help a lot. There are natural methods to clean them such as poring boiling water in to the drain, then put about half a cup of baking soda in and let sit for a few minutes to cling to the pipes. Then, pour a cup of vinegar mixed with a cup of hot tap water over the top of the baking soda. It'll start to foam and bubble up, so cover the drain with a cup or plate or something to contain the reaction to within the drain.
Also, especially if you have slow drains anyway, a good liquid foaming drain cleaner will kill everything and open the drain.
If you use the kitchen sink to clean and rinse grains a lot, don't be surprised if you have a starchy sticky film in the drain that may be attracting bugs and gnats.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: SpitballJedi]
#23273840 - 05/26/16 12:48 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I had gnats as well. They were attracted to the pots I had outside that I used for disposing spent tubs. Once I threw away all the compost, the population was decreased dramatically. Honestly, I am not 100% sure it was gnats as I was never able to see the larvae but they were equally attracted to the tubs I had inside once they made it in. It was a problem nonetheless. I imported some gnatrol for any future problem. Too bad there isn't something similiar for mites.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#23273987 - 05/26/16 01:44 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Get some natural predators. Maybe ladybugs?
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Snazz]
#23274020 - 05/26/16 01:53 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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In the house? Ladybugs are cool and all but I don't want any bugs crawling inside my mouth while I'm sleeping . I guess I shall see how severe the problem is before I decide on anything. For sure the first step will be to check all my old plates for any signs of mites. Those that do will get the bin. I haven't seen any in my current work, except for an oyster spore inoculated agar jar. Didn't put that in a ziplock since it's a jar and they made it inside. Haven't seen them in there yet but I can see their trails clearly. Plus the unmistakable mold spots that grow from them.
I keep my current work in seperate ziplocks since I'm always opening it to check up on whichever plates. Since those get transferred fast I don't think they were able to get in them. I need to get rid of any infested old ones anyway, since they provide a prime breeding ground for them. The first plate I noticed that had mites this year was a pioppino plate, grows very fluffy and aerial like oysters. It's like a giant edible sofa for them.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: SpitballJedi]
#23274024 - 05/26/16 01:53 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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2 tbls apple cider vinegar 1 tbls sugar few drops of liquid dish-washing detergent 1 qt o f water
Mix well and put in to a few small containers and set around your tubs, room, or wherever you think gnats may be breeding or feeding.
I've done this but I use less water. Cut a coke bottle in half. Put a small hole in the cap, and tape it together with the top part inverted. It makes it harder for them to fly out and they get stuck in there. It has completely eliminated the fruit flies and gnats I always get in my kitchen in the spring and summer. I just put a few of these around. You can wrap decorative paper around them to make it less gross looking, just like you said spitball.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Bunji Fungi] 1
#23274061 - 05/26/16 02:05 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I tried filling a glass with vinegar when the gnat problem was at it's prime. It barely managed to kill half a dozen gnats. Didn't know soap was used in those.
I have some sticky mats as well now, pretty cool because I find those big asian tiger mosquitos stuck on there from time to time. And it's a good indicator of what the current population is of any flying insect.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#23274422 - 05/26/16 04:09 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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yea the soap causes them to sink when they land on the surface, from what I understand. Just a glass of vinegar wont work, cause they will just fly away. If you you use the coke bottle cut in half, with inverted tops and a small hole in the cap like I used, then they cant get out of the bottle. When they get tired of flying around trying to find a way out, they eventually land on the surface of the liquid and drown.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#23274431 - 05/26/16 04:11 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Even without the lid, they have a hard time getting out. They crawl in don't seem to have any desire to get back out even if they can aim at the opening.
Yeah, I've tried straight vinegar, but didn't work nearly as well as vinegar, sugar, soap, and water.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Bunji Fungi]
#23274438 - 05/26/16 04:14 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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heres what it looks like:
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Bunji Fungi]
#23274440 - 05/26/16 04:15 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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yes definitely works better with that recipe spitball. I've tried straight vinegar also and it wasn't as effective.
Edit: I'm not trying to take over or anything, I'm still a noob here, but this worked so well for me I wanted to share it. You can do it without the lid but IME this design works best, plus it's less risk of spillage. The ones in my kitchen definitely try to fly out. I've literally captured hundreds in a short period of time. I pour a little bleach down the drain and wash all my dishes and they go right for the vinegar.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Bunji Fungi]
#23276389 - 05/27/16 04:49 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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i will try that, i like the upside down bottle opening.
i grow oysters here and there, and I think they got a taste for that. they go right for them, and spread from there.
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: blindingleaf]
#23276621 - 05/27/16 07:22 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Any physical trap which uses a non-linear path in, and filled with some Coca-Cola
They will always try and go up to get out. Check out wasp traps for decks
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#23277117 - 05/27/16 10:58 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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good info supalemon, thanks
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: blindingleaf]
#23277202 - 05/27/16 11:27 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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blindingleaf said: The way I *kinda* solved it was to take the first thing I saw gnats on this year and move it to separate room (basement). I try to keep at least one thing growing there at all times (second flush), knowing full well it will get gnats, but it also distracts them from Going into the other room cause a new food source is closer.
I know it sounds weird but its been working for me recently.
I just got over my gnat invasion- Id moved my tubs upstairs and Id forgotten a tray in the basement closet. It mustve caught gnats and Id see the occasional fungus gnat flying around upstairs.
I spawn a set of 10 tubs and boom. I thought the gnats came up through the heat ducts or something - and they might have but the I think the culprit was an old agar plate in a stack that the gnats somehow git thru the parafilm and were living off of the plate... Id taken it up to the upatairs trash. I was pretty niave about these gnats cause Id never had them in any serious numbers- abd then all of a sudden I was fucked. They invaded my grow room hard! I hung up like 50 rolla of fly paper, inside the tubs and out
I caught tons on the rolls and a bunch in apple cider vinegar but it didn't even cause a dent. The fly paper was black with flies and still there were millions being born everyday.
So I ended up harvesting my first flush and dumping everything, and leaving my spawn to sit a few weeks before mixing my tubs. So far it seems time + no substrates cured the flies
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mushpunx]
#23277238 - 05/27/16 11:39 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I tried that bottle thing once for asian tiger mosquitos. The recipe I was given was probably not good because I was still getting bitten dozens of times a night and not a single darn mosquito drowned in that thing. The pictures don't tell lies though, I've seen plenty just full with dead mosquitos.
We've only had the asian tiger for about 4 or 5 years here, back then we effected more by their bites. People ended up in the hospital due to infections caused by the bites. A single bite would swell up incredibly. Things are better now, although my brain is still wired to be paranoid about them, their bites are not as bad as they used to be. They probably bred with the smaller local ones or something.
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